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AxelWolf
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July 10th, 2019 at 11:04:37 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Re: your PS. That's what happens when you go believing bad publicity from people who burned bridges rather than finding out for yourself. You come here, you discuss things intelligently, you are made welcome, even get thanks for a good post here and there (in case you didn't notice.) So welcome, redietz.

I'm sure your link to your blog will be welcome, too, as long as you're not advertising there or getting paid for clicks. If so, please PM Zuga or Wizard for permission/ advertising rates before posting the link. Thank you.

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♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
wildgoe
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August 13th, 2019 at 4:40:31 AM permalink
Yeah, other than professional card counters, there is no way to beat the casino over the long run...
darkoz
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August 13th, 2019 at 5:02:27 AM permalink
Quote: wildgoe

Yeah, other than professional card counters, there is no way to beat the casino over the long run...



But if you do beat the casinos over the long run...


They will fear you.

Take me for example.

I am the most feared AP on the East Coast

I am so feared even people I dont know are assumed to be part of my team (discovery paperwork submitted including banned players I never met being attributed as associates of mine)
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OnceDear
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August 13th, 2019 at 5:35:45 AM permalink
Quote: wildgoe

Yeah, other than professional card counters, there is no way to beat the casino over the long run...

Lol, welcome to the forum.

But what you said is oh so terribly wrong! It's as big a misconception as 'Craps can be beaten by disciplined money management'

But it's the casinos that CAN be beaten. Very much so.
The GAMES can generally not be beaten, except for Blackjack.

E,g. Casino X offers a 10% loss rebate on all losses in a 48 hour period on Blackjack. Advantage players would be all over that casino and would make a killing. Casino X might sack the marketing guy and not make that mistake again for a while. So the AP's go to Casino Y that just took on a new marketing guy ( previously from casino X ) and they make another killing. Round and around, onwards and upwards.

There absolutely are members here who make a good full time living from such exploits. It's easier money than some others make at Blackjack.
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Gandler
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August 14th, 2019 at 9:18:31 AM permalink
Quote: winningwizard

Come on....how can someone believe that there is a system to beat any casino sinos would go out of business. Casino games have negative expected value and you would lose. It should be for pure entertainment, not a money making strategy. All you guys need is a basic understanding of statistics to get this.

Only live poker and sports betting are the only form of games where you can use skill to give yourself advantage but even those are hard work and grind.



That is generally good advice for most people.

But, this statement is not true, depending on your definition of system. A simple example is counting BJ, which can be classified as a system to beat a game that is not poker or sports betting.

There are other AP opportunities, that others have stated, such as taking advantage of loss rebates and special promos certain days which can make certain games +EV.

If your statement simply refers to betting systems such as martingale, etc, where your bets are changed based on past bet results (and not anything else, count etc...).... then it is a correct statement.
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mcallister3200
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August 14th, 2019 at 9:27:48 AM permalink
Quote: darkoz



I am so feared even people I dont know are assumed to be part of my team (discovery paperwork submitted including banned players I never met being attributed as associates of mine)



That is really common and doesn’t mean much of anything. Looking at surveillance databse profiles of the table AP’s I know fairly well about 1/3rd of the “known associates” listed are not or never were associated, if two known players seen in a casino at same time they assume that etc.
darkoz
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August 14th, 2019 at 10:30:07 AM permalink
Quote: mcallister3200

That is really common and doesn’t mean much of anything. Looking at surveillance databse profiles of the table AP’s I know fairly well about 1/3rd of the “known associates” listed are not or never were associated, if two known players seen in a casino at same time they assume that etc.



Granted.

This "known associate" was seen a month after I was in the casino. He was just doing something similar to what I do.

Never met the guy
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August 14th, 2019 at 1:44:58 PM permalink
Quote: winningwizard

Come on....how can someone believe that there is a system to beat any casino sinos would go out of business. Casino games have negative expected value and you would lose. It should be for pure entertainment, not a money making strategy. All you guys need is a basic understanding of statistics to get this.

Only live poker and sports betting are the only form of games where you can use skill to give yourself advantage but even those are hard work and grind.



There is one system and that is to extend your legs towards the floor and place each one flat down. Next place one leg in front of the other til you reach the exit and then enter your car. If you won money then that system works right?
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August 14th, 2019 at 1:44:58 PM permalink
Quote: winningwizard

Come on....how can someone believe that there is a system to beat any casino sinos would go out of business. Casino games have negative expected value and you would lose. It should be for pure entertainment, not a money making strategy. All you guys need is a basic understanding of statistics to get this.

Only live poker and sports betting are the only form of games where you can use skill to give yourself advantage but even those are hard work and grind.



There is one system and that is to extend your legs towards the floor and place each one flat down. Next place one leg in front of the other til you reach the exit and then enter your car. If you won money then that system works right?
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August 14th, 2019 at 2:28:28 PM permalink
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