Can Money Management Beat the House?
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Quote: DeMangoThree things this board cannot stand. The possibility of influencing dice. Creation having a Creator. The possibility of a systems player being ahead. It is what it is.
Profound post.
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Quote: wildmanExoter175, you, and others, claim (and prove mathematically) that my system cannot work. However, I find it "odd" no pun intended) that you and others would recommend that I put my current winnings in the bank! Why? Since I have only been risking money that I could afford to lose, and now have a gain of $33K, I think it makes more sense to continue to gamble with my "silly" system, and enjoy how it plays out. In my remaining lifetime (30+ more years or so), I don't think I will reach that "million(s) hand" point where the odds and standard deviations guarantee that I have zero chance of being a winner----so for all the fun that Vegas and playing blackjack have to offer, that seems like a smarter investment of my accumulated winnings---not to mention, that my wife and I have picked up over $30K of room, meal and show comps along the way (yes, I track that too), and will continue to pick up a significant amount of those before my $33K in accumulated winnings is expended due to "the math". Who knows, maybe I'll decide to become a card counter at some point, and parlay my current winnings into millions---probably not.
At any rate, I will keep the group posted on my trek toward my inevitable downfall, as long as some interest in that remains......maybe I should create another poll, and let everyone guess (or bet) on when my downfall finally consumes my current winnings.
Why do we tell you to put it in the bank? Simple.
Like your strategy dictates, you should be "putting away" a certain amount or percentage (when up) that you'll never touch again, and will leave the table with. The same should be said for casino winnings.
Unless you're an advantage player like myself, you need to be putting that money away. You cannot sustain any "win" for long and you will quickly start losing it and you will go freaking insane thinking about the money you COULD have had saved away, or SHOULD have had saved away. At some point, you need to put that money in the bank and never touch it. You're only risking significantly more by continuing. In fact, you should probably start playing less, and much less aggressively the more you pile up.
Do not confuse what I am about to say, and take it with absolute authority in all things.
Your system cannot repetitively make money over the long term.
The sooner you realize that, the safer your money is.
Because you're not "gambling" you're going to lose. The more you play the more you will move towards your real EV. You're not "starting fresh" and using "$30k" that you can afford to lose. You're 60K hands in and $30k up and you WILL move that number down to 0 and past, eventually.Quote: wildman... However, I find it "odd" no pun intended) that you and others would recommend that I put my current winnings in the bank! Why?...
No one's saying you have to stop gambling/playing/etc. As was suggested by myself and several other people, why not use your outside of the box thinking, big efforts, and stern discipline to simply go about it another route? I can't imagine the hours it took for you to develop all of your little rules, and as you said you can't even really enjoy the game half the time you play... So why not do something BETTER and more FUN?
You can learn card counting in a weekend, practice enough over a couple months to be proficient at it for the rest of your life. A drop in the bucket investment to then be able to play a winning game and have fun while you're doing it. I've been having fun, and in the black, for nearly a decade... You've clearly shown you're willing to put in the initial work as I'm sure you did MORE work developing your losing system than you would to learn counting, how to play perfect VP strat and play 100%+ machines, learn about progressives, etc, etc, etc. The info is out there my friend. Use your efforts towards something positive instead of dumping your winnings back, WHICH YOU WILL DO.
Quote: wildman
My only disappointment so far: That I have only one vote for "genius"! :)
You must be really disappointed because it's technically ZERO if you discount your own vote.
I have been found interested in the system of money management of you. Explain me, losing and winning, leave the table when how much is lose? It is difficult the 21 game for me. The 5x money system of you presented, it will work with other game of chance? Game of Dice? You do track when thrower had done good? In past and present, dice thrower important to wins if done well.
1. The bettor must have unlimited bankroll (such as Bill Gates, Warren Buffet or those on Forbes' top billionaires list).
2. The casino must remove the table max limit (for the progressive betting strategy to be effective).
Quote: RSHello, Mr. Wild,
I have been found interested in the system of money management of you. Explain me, losing and winning, leave the table when how much is lose? It is difficult the 21 game for me. The 5x money system of you presented, it will work with other game of chance? Game of Dice? You do track when thrower had done good? In past and present, dice thrower important to wins if done well.
Can't say if it will or will not work in other games of chance....I only play Blackjack......and according to most of the other "experts" on this site, it won't even work in Blackjack......so all I can say is Good Luck!
However, I do think there is merit in the practice of always betting the same % of your available bankroll......If you always bet a lesser amount (but the same %) as your bankroll declines, it is a mathematical fact that you will get to play much longer at any game with a negative expectation of winning, than if you constantly bet the same amount.
Quote: AxelWolfYou must be really disappointed because it's technically ZERO if you discount your own vote.
Thanks for reminding me.....I forgot to vote.....Now I have 2 votes for genius! :)
Quote: Romes......
You can learn card counting in a weekend, practice enough over a couple months to be proficient at it for the rest of your life. A drop in the bucket investment to then be able to play a winning game and have fun while you're doing it. I've been having fun, and in the black, for nearly a decade... You've clearly shown you're willing to put in the initial work as I'm sure you did MORE work developing your losing system than you would to learn counting, how to play perfect VP strat and play 100%+ machines, learn about progressives, etc, etc, etc. The info is out there my friend. Use your efforts towards something positive instead of dumping your winnings back, WHICH YOU WILL DO.
Sounds like a good plan!
If you are having fun with your game (especially if you are winning ) I, (me and maybe only me) have no problem with you continuing, just from an advice standpoint. I do believe that some fairly level headed, serious minded, members with no agenda other than to respond to a new poster, (cough), have shown why your system will not work 'long term'. You should, you really should, respect their opnions. These, for the most part, are guys that actually do know what they are talking about. Not to mention that they took the time to respond to your question. That being said, you have my permission to do whatever you want with your own money. My only caution would be, 'if you lose your current winnings, consider carefully before you add additional funds to the bankroll'. I hope you are having some fun along the way. Cheers! 2F
Quote: DeMangoThree things this board cannot stand. The possibility of influencing dice. Creation having a Creator. The possibility of a systems player being ahead. It is what it is.
I wish this site had a simple "Like" button......but since it doesn't I "Like" your post!
And #3 has already been well proven in the short time I have been around! :)
Quote: TwoFeathersATLMr Wild,
If you are having fun with your game (especially if you are winning ) I, (me and maybe only me) have no problem with you continuing, just from an advice standpoint. I do believe that some fairly level headed, serious minded, members with no agenda other to respond to a new poster, (cough), have shown why your system will not work 'long term'. You should, you really should, respect their opnions. These, for the most part, are guys that actually do know what they are talking about. Not to mention that they took the time to respond to your question. That being said, you have my permission to do whatever you want with your own money. My only caution would be, 'if you lose your current winnings, consider carefully before you add additional funds to the bankroll'. I hope you are having some fun along the way. Cheers! 2F
Thanks....advise taken!
Quote: DeMangoThree things this board cannot stand. The possibility of influencing dice. Creation having a Creator. The possibility of a systems player being ahead. It is what it is.
I would disagree with the third one. When discussing systems, people routinely say that it's possible, even likely, that you'll be ahead at some point; it's that big ugly drop when the system norms that kills it, not necessarily steady losses.
Quote: Romes....You can learn card counting in a weekend, practice enough over a couple months to be proficient at it for the rest of your life. A drop in the bucket investment to then be able to play a winning game and have fun while you're doing it. I've been having fun, and in the black, for nearly a decade... You've clearly shown you're willing to put in the initial work as I'm sure you did MORE work developing your losing system than you would to learn counting, how to play perfect VP strat and play 100%+ machines, learn about progressives, etc, etc, etc. The info is out there my friend. Use your efforts towards something positive instead of dumping your winnings back, WHICH YOU WILL DO.
Read your "A to Z Counting"....GREAT post......hope I can put it into practice! Your second article "scares the hell out of me", and I'm not sure it's worth it!......also, the betting levels you indicated in your examples (red or green chip) seem to be a little too conservative for me---e.g. The return per hour seems low for the amount of effort (education, experience, risk, etc) that is required. Do I assume that if my starting bet is $100 (a level that I am much more comfortable with) and thus $500 to $1,000 when the TC is +3, that it would draw more attention from the casino that I might be a counter?
I too, love the comps (and have collected over $30K of those over the past 8 years), but Vegas strip casinos don't offer many comps unless your averaging $150 per hand and play 4 hours per day.....anything less than $100, pretty much negates any chance of room comps. fortunately, my wife plays with me and BELLAGIO and most other Mlife casinos "add" our bets together, making it pretty easy to get our rooms comped.
Thanks again for the great "counting" posts!
Wonderful.... one mistake and one I___________T( highly misguided individual)Quote: wildmanThanks for reminding me.....I forgot to vote.....Now I have 2 votes for genius! :)
All 3 are stupid and highly improbable. (System betting/money management working in the long run that is.)Quote: beachbumbabsI would disagree with the third one. When discussing systems, people routinely say that it's possible, even likely, that you'll be ahead at some point; it's that big ugly drop when the system norms that kills it, not necessarily steady losses.
It's not possible to have +EV in a negative EV situation. Money management (Monkey management) and systems are -EV. If you have an advantage systems can have a positive outcome. MM can help smooth out variance, that's fine if you're protecting bankroll for future investments.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxUm-2x-2dMQuote: RSHello, Mr. Wild,
I have been found interested in the system of money management of you. Explain me, losing and winning, leave the table when how much is lose? It is difficult the 21 game for me. The 5x money system of you presented, it will work with other game of chance? Game of Dice? You do track when thrower had done good? In past and present, dice thrower important to wins if done well.
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Me lub u long time.
Quote: AxelWolfAll 3 are stupid and highly improbable. (System betting/money management working in the long run that is.)
It's not possible to have +EV in a negative EV situation. Money management (Monkey management) and systems are -EV. If you have an advantage systems can have a positive outcome. MM can help smooth out variance, that's fine if you're protecting bankroll for future investments.
I'm disagreeing with what Mango says the experts on this forum say, not with the MM concept being -EV. It's possible to be up, even well up, in the short run, and be deluded into thinking what you're doing is working. Everyone has acknowledged that in every system debunking exercise. But there aren't any that will be reliably +EV in the long run, which is the point of debunking them with the math. So I'm agreeing with you though you may not realize it. :)
Quote: wildmanSorry this post is so long, but I hope you enjoy it, as my results are phenomenal:
You might find this thread interesting: Went For It
The OP, a non-counter, claimed to have turned a 5K bankroll into $1 Million over seven sessions at the Venetian and the Mirage, by betting higher amounts as his bankroll increased.
He deleted the original post that explained his journey, but the thread is a good read.
I know what you were saying I just needed a good spot to point out that all 3 were stupid. I was actually agreeing with you.Quote: beachbumbabsI'm disagreeing with what Mango says the experts on this forum say, not with the MM concept being -EV. It's possible to be up, even well up, in the short run, and be deluded into thinking what you're doing is working. Everyone has acknowledged that in every system debunking exercise. But there aren't any that will be reliably +EV in the long run, which is the point of debunking them with the math. So I'm agreeing with you though you may not realize it. :)
Just waiting for the religious people to jump in now.
Quote: AxelWolfAll 3 are stupid and highly improbable. (System betting/money management working in the long run that is.) .
This whole discussion falls under the intelligence
challenged category. Every MM system has a
lovely brick wall built into it. You will hit that
wall sooner rather than later. The OP of this
thread has to be holding back something, but
I don't even care. These discussions are majorly
unproductive if you actually go to casinos and
risk real money. Why? Because winning consistently
in a casino is the hardest thing you'll ever do.
Quote: wildmanUnfortunately, it is somewhat difficult to "enjoy" the blackjack game, as this system requires you to constantly count your money (in direct opposition to the line in Glen Campbell's song...."never count your money while your sittin' at the table"!)
Wasn't that a Kenny Rogers song?
Quote: ten2winWasn't that a Kenny Rogers song?
Yes, I stand corrected!
But it is at least "possible," and even likely, to be in positive territory at some points.Quote: AxelWolfAll 3 are stupid and highly improbable. (System betting/money management working in the long run that is.) It's not possible to have +EV in a negative EV situation.
If a bettor structures his system correctly, it can capture gains -- not necessarily all -- and limit losses. Actually everyone playing in casinos is practicing money management, whether they realize it or not. They are deciding what times to start and stop playing. They are deciding how much to buy in for. Whether and how much to rebuy. How much to stash in their pockets. How much to walk away with. Some people just employ more advanced or complicated systems.Quote: AxelWolfMoney management (Monkey management) and systems are -EV. If you have an advantage systems can have a positive outcome. MM can help smooth out variance, that's fine if you're protecting bankroll for future investments.
Quote: TankoYou might find this thread interesting: Went For It
The OP, a non-counter, claimed to have turned a 5K bankroll into $1 Million over seven sessions at the Venetian and the Mirage, by betting higher amounts as his bankroll increased.
He deleted the original post that explained his journey, but the thread is a good read.
Thanks Tanko.....interesting thread......had I read that first, I might have never posted here! I was surprised that apparently "seasoned" BJ players did not believe this could (or did) actually happen. In my limited playing time 600+ hours, I've seen other people have great runs......just last month at Paris I watched a guy turn a $100 into $32K, in a very short time.....yes, he was "lucky", but he pressed his bet and kept winning....some might call that skill. I won't comment further about that thread....better to leave a sleeping dog lIe!
Most of us have read about Archie Karas and his Run, when he turned $50 in December 1992 into more than $40 million by the beginning of 1995, only to lose it all later that year.
Luck happens.
The sad thing is, it'll all be downhill for you thereafter: that's the best it'll ever be.
PLEASE.Quote: MrVWe all KNOW that variance, aka luck, exists.
Most of us have read about Archie Karas and his Run, when he turned $50 in December 1992 into more than $40 million by the beginning of 1995, only to lose it all later that year.
Luck happens.
The sad thing is, it'll all be downhill for you thereafter: that's the best it'll ever be.
LUCK?
That was probably more skill than you realize. Skillfully cheating that is. Read about his history hes now in the BLACK BOOK and that's not just for one time.
Losing it back was a product of being a degenerate.
How?
Quote: MrVSo you say he cheated at the Binion's craps table?
How?
He didn't cheat every single time he gambled. But a vast majority of his winnings has come from cheating.
Please explain how "a vast majority of his winnings" at Binions' craps table came from cheating.
It's not like they weren't watching him like a hawk the entire time.
What cheat did he pull?
Gaffed dice?
Sliding?
And if you don't mind, please cite some authority for your opinion.
Who knows, and that's the problem. I can't believe anything at this time regarding his big run. I think it's a bad example of variance/luck.Quote: MrVI understand he's in the black book now, and I've read about what he did to justify it, but I am trying to focus back decades ago.
Please explain how "a vast majority of his winnings" at Binions' craps table came from cheating.
It's not like they weren't watching him like a hawk the entire time.
What cheat did he pull?
Gaffed dice?
Sliding?
And if you don't mind, please cite some authority for your opinion.
I'm glad you found value in the articles wildman. The 2nd article shouldn't scare you as overall it should highlight the casino really can't do anything to you. It's all about knowing your rights. In the decade I've been counting I've been backed off and flat bet, but I've never had any issues other than "you're too good for our game sorry you can't play BJ" or "table minimum for him." The intense interactions are very few and far between, but I wanted the readers to know what to do should the situation arise.Quote: wildmanRead your "A to Z Counting"....GREAT post......hope I can put it into practice! Your second article "scares the hell out of me", and I'm not sure it's worth it!......also, the betting levels you indicated in your examples (red or green chip) seem to be a little too conservative for me---e.g. The return per hour seems low for the amount of effort (education, experience, risk, etc) that is required. Do I assume that if my starting bet is $100 (a level that I am much more comfortable with) and thus $500 to $1,000 when the TC is +3, that it would draw more attention from the casino that I might be a counter?
I too, love the comps (and have collected over $30K of those over the past 8 years), but Vegas strip casinos don't offer many comps unless your averaging $150 per hand and play 4 hours per day.....anything less than $100, pretty much negates any chance of room comps. fortunately, my wife plays with me and BELLAGIO and most other Mlife casinos "add" our bets together, making it pretty easy to get our rooms comped.
Thanks again for the great "counting" posts!
If you're playing the $100 level that's fine, and you'll have a lot of good games to play. However yes, eventually you'll get made at this level as most places "hawk" their higher limit games. You'd need a great act, or a previously established relationship (that you might have?) in order to get good play out of the game over time. In my 3rd article I talk about how a counter could make $100k/year spreading greens to blacks. If you're above that spreading blacks you could easily make a pretty good hourly average. Like I said, your biggest problem at that level will be the scrutiny those higher limit games get... and once you're made, you're pretty much done with comps/etc at that casino and their associated properties.
There's a lot of options though. Say you go on busier weekends and you play bigger places that commonly have guys betting a few grand per hand. Then you're a 'smaller fish' in the high limit room compared to them. There's always been tons of talk about teams and how they only go play high profile weekends, casino openings, etc, because there's so much action they don't get noticed.
Perhaps counting is for you, perhaps not. My goal was just to inspire you to move your efforts towards something more productive than a proven losing system =).
Quote: wildmanSorry this post is so long, but I hope you enjoy it, as my results are phenomenal:
According to the tagline for this forum: "All betting systems are worthless. However, for the mathematically challenged, here is a forum of your own.", I MUST BE MATHEMATICALLY CHALLENGED!
I don't have a "betting system", but rather a "money management" system. I have tracked my actual casino playing data (starting bet, time played, maximum profit level attained, and final net win/loss) for EVERY table I have played since September of 2008:
693 hours of play,
833 tables (my average time at a table is 50 minutes),
62,414 hands (approximately---usually starting with 2 hands, and as my win/loss changes I reduce to 1 hand, thus an average of 1.5 hands),
I have a lifetime (since 2008) table winning % of 43.22 (but 47% since "perfecting" my money management system in 2012).
Because of my self-imposed limited loss parameters, I only have small losses, but have significant big wins, my bankroll has greatly increased over this eight year period!
Since "perfecting" my money management system, I have won 26 of the last 29 blackjack gambling trips (usually about 16 hours per trip), , winning over $33K in the process. My average "starting bet" has increase from $40 in the early years (2009-10) to my current average level of over $132, as I have gained confidence in my system, and now usually start my betting at the beginning of a trip at $200 to $300, which is more than enough to get me room comps at any casino in Vegas.
..........After winning a significant amount to start my bankroll in 2008 through dumb luck, I embarked upon a journey to figure out why I usually ended almost every gambling trip with more money than I came with. Then, as "odds" would dictate, I lost money over the course of the next 3 years, but in so doing, I developed tight win/loss parameters for each table I played, plugging in these new "parameters" into the spreadsheet data I had recorded over the previous gambling trips, and began to recognize that HAD I USED THESE NEW TIGHTER "PARAMETERS", I would have WON money over that three year period, rather than lost. Thus, by the end of 2012, I had established very tight parameters by which I would stay at or leave a given table (I have since "tightened" those parameters further).
My system assumes that blackjack hands are random, but not evenly distributed, thus tending to run in streaks, both winning and losing, and thus the goal is to increase the betting level during winning streaks, and decrease the betting level during losing streaks. My system also assumes (although this may or may not be true) that losing tables tend to stay losing tables longer than you can "wait them out", and thus it is better to leave before depleting your bank roll----likewise, winning tables tend to stay winning tables, but at high betting levels resulting from progressive betting styles, your bank roll can be significantly reduced if you stay too long and the winning streak turns against you.
Originally, I was a "progressive" bettor, usually starting my bet at or near the table minimum and increasing my betting level as my bankroll increased. However, over time, I realized that I needed to start at a much higher level than table minimum, so that if I entered the table during a "losing streak", I could pull my bet back until the streak changed. Thus, I am not only a "progressive" bettor, but I am also a "regressive" bettor. (Starting at the table minimum is a major reason why most blackjack players, I believe, end their session(s) losing---hence the house's actual take is over 10% rather than the mere .5% that the odds dictate.)
And yes, I will admit that there is no exact science or "math" that can predict when the streaks begin or end, but changing your betting level each time you win or lose, will help identify the streaks.
So, here are my STRICT parameters----I am an extremely disciplined gambler, and I will not play outside these parameters for any reason:
First, I determine my starting bet.
I NEVER bring more than 5x my starting bet to the table----I don't even dig into my wallet to bring out more money if my last hand (before running out of money) is a double down or a split----I violate the blackjack rules, and just take a card! Money management discipline trumps blackjack rules! I actually prefer to play and lose no more than 4x, but I bring 5x, and many times quit at only a 4x loss.
I prefer to play at at least a $25 min table----the $10 tables tend to have inexperienced players coming in and out and playing incorrectly (although theoretically that makes no difference, it is difficult to maintain a good mental attitude when this is constantly occurring). I prefer to only play a multi-deck shoe, usually six or eight decks.
My starting bet will be at least 5x the table minimum (I like to start at an even higher multiple, as I have more room to adjust downward if the table is not productive in the first few bets)
I usually begin with 2 hands (although there is no real need to play 2 hands), so that each hand actually may be only 2.5x the table minimum for a total combined bet of 5x the table minimum. (Again, I prefer to start at a much higher multiple of the table minimum, but you have to become comfortable with higher bets and the potential loss in order to do that.)
I increase/decrease my bet approximately 25% each hand: But, if I lose the first 3 hands at a table, I generally drop to table minimum, and then struggle to get my bet back up when the table changes. If I lose the next 2 bets (that's 5 bets in a row, I take my losses and leave the table. If I have dropped my bet to table minimum, and then begin winning, I increase my bet after a win at a more rapid rate, until I am back up to my original starting bet (e.g. a 30-40% bet increase at the bottom betting range).
If I realize a 50% gain in my original stake at the table, I strive to never leave the table a loser----thus, I set aside at lease a small portion of my winnings.
If I realize a 100% gain (doubling my original buy-in), I strive to leave the table with at least 50% of the gain, and thus I set aside that amount. (At this point, I may be close to doubling my original starting bet, and at this point I become conservative and reduce my progression percentage.) Also, if I have more than doubled my money, I will typically start a new shoe at my original starting bet, and begin a new progression.
If I realize a 150% gain, I will set aside 2/3 of this amount, so that I will leave the table with at least 100% gain, then as I win more, I continue to set aside 50% of the increased winnings, and continue to play until I lose back to the point where I have only my "set aside" money left.
Because my system is a "money management" system, once I have achieved the 150% gain, I pull my bet back to the original starting bet level, and "enjoy the ride". I admit, by pulling back my bet, I may be "leaving the opportunity to earn even more money at the table", but I am content to conserve my existing winnings and keep slowly adding to them until the table turns against me. The risk of losing a split/double down opportunity at a high betting level, can erode a significant portion of the winnings in a single hand, thus the rationale for becoming conservative after a significant amount has been won and set aside.
My trip goal is to win at least 10x my starting bet ($200 starting bet = $2,000 goal)
Once this goal is achieved, I continue to play, increasing this goal by 50% of my continued table wins, but NEVER losing more than 50% of my original goal that I achieved (thus in this example, I would always leave town with at least $1,000). I usually end the trip if I have won 20x-25x my starting bet, or at that point, I drastically cut back on my betting level, and "enjoy" playing blackjack again!
Likewise, I have a maximum that I am willing to lose on any given trip: 15x my starting bet. However, if I continue to lose several tables, I will reduce my starting bet to conserve my total bankroll, and I also tighten my parameters to 4x. Also, if I start the trip with losses in excess of 10x, I am happy to end the trip once I have my bankroll back into positive territory....thus, some of my trips have had only small gains.
In summary, I am typically betting 20-25% of my table's bankroll (which starts at least 5x the table minimum)....as that bankroll goes up, I increase my bet, but it is still about the same % of the current bankroll, until I have doubled my original starting bet. Likewise, as I lose, and my table's bankroll goes down I am still betting about the same % of the current bankroll.
Unfortunately, it is somewhat difficult to "enjoy" the blackjack game, as this system requires you to constantly count your money (in direct opposition to the line in Glen Campbell's song...."never count your money while your sittin' at the table"!) But the satisfaction of continually beating the house makes it well worth the effort!
CAUTION: Never let the pursuit of room comps dictate your betting level---let your allotted bankroll for the given table determine your betting level.
Good Luck! And I welcome comments to this post---I seriously doubt that anyone can "mathematically" prove this system to work, although I have proven it does work after 60,000+ played hands.....maybe the naysayers can run it for a million hands and prove me wrong....but I don't think I will live long enough to play that many hands!......and by posting this, I hope I am not jinxing myself to three years of losing blackjack trips! But, I think I am on to something here!
i like this post a lot. i got some things to say.
1) i did software simulations. it surports this:
a: if you keep playing 10,000 hands, it is a loss. but it is 100times*100 hands, by flat betting, it may win. the same with one million.
b: keeping to a a fixed betting system helps.
2) good luck favors who would share and write long and displined people.
3) i did really a lot analyses on random numbers. streak exists. like best way to win roulette numbers is to follow it. like last number is a X, next time bet x. for this, by 'excel' random numbers, it wins like 50% of every 6000 hands simulation. it is not easy to find a way at winning for after 6000 hands. the same with baccrat Tie. Bet a tie after Tie, it is the most. or playing any streak in black or even or big.... if you see a 6 streak, after it, follow another 6 streak, it exists in random numbers. so follow the streak.
good luck and i am confident you will win for the rest of your life. your control will make your life.
Quote: tomchina123i like this post a lot. i got some things to say.
1) i did software simulations. it surports this:
a: if you keep playing 10,000 hands, it is a loss. but it is 100times*100 hands, by flat betting, it may win. the same with one million.
b: keeping to a a fixed betting system helps.
2) good luck favors who would share and write long and displined people.
3) i did really a lot analyses on random numbers. streak exists. like best way to win roulette numbers is to follow it. like last number is a X, next time bet x. for this, by 'excel' random numbers, it wins like 50% of every 6000 hands simulation. it is not easy to find a way at winning for after 6000 hands. the same with baccrat Tie. Bet a tie after Tie, it is the most. or playing any streak in black or even or big.... if you see a 6 streak, after it, follow another 6 streak, it exists in random numbers. so follow the streak.
good luck and i am confident you will win for the rest of your life. your control will make your life.
Thanks for your confidence......mathematically most on this site say that it cannot continue to work.....I am already approaching 3 standard deviations! However, I will continue to play under this system, with a cautionary outlook.....If I start losing several trips in a row, I might give up on my system..........Hopefully I can work some counting techniques into my money management system (betting much higher during positive TC, etc.), and keep my winning trip % at a high level.
1) can u make your money management ino an excel? then easier for u to sum up your rules and for us to refer?
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2) don't give up. even you go to learn counting. the losing streaks is terrifying no matter if you count or not.
3) at least, it works 60% usefulness. if math works 40%. maths belong to science. science is going to explain things. your winnging is not against maths.
3) for counting, as i can run the simulations, if it is one deck, really good. if it is 6 decks, resulting poor winning.
