richbailey86
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May 8th, 2014 at 4:47:24 AM permalink
As a new baccarat player im curious to read what some betting systems some of you are using successfully. ...

I just got back from AC and turned 100 into 500 just by following what the asian guy next to me was doing, lol

Thanks

Rich
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May 8th, 2014 at 4:56:21 AM permalink
Welcome back GR8Player!
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May 8th, 2014 at 4:59:45 AM permalink
The wait is over...
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May 8th, 2014 at 5:20:04 AM permalink
Well I can see I joined a forum of paranoid people....cool. very funny how people are in forums lol.....no way to welcome a newbie
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May 8th, 2014 at 5:56:11 AM permalink
Hi Rich. WHY would a system work? HOW would a system work? What about the process of changing your bet causes the house edge of the game to change?
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May 8th, 2014 at 5:59:12 AM permalink
Quote: richbailey86

As a new baccarat player im curious to read what some betting systems some of you are using successfully. ...

I just got back from AC and turned 100 into 500 just by following what the asian guy next to me was doing, lol

Thanks

Rich



Welcome to the forum richbailey86,
This is a forum that applies mathematics to any system.
The math determines the validity of the system.
Thats great you turned 100 onto 500 riding the winning streak of the guy next to you.
My advice, quit while you are ahead. 400 profit is a nice little haul.
If you continue to play, be aware that the odds are slightly against you.
If you do have a system that you think works, please give us the details.
There are many math heads here that love to give you the true evaluation on any system.
So far, no system has ever passed the math test here.
But of course there is allways that miracle 1st time.
Do you believe in miracles?
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May 8th, 2014 at 6:03:22 AM permalink
Thanks for the reply guys

I know in the long run any system will fail due to house edge. Was just looking for a way to play that gives a baccarat player a better edge using a certain way of betting. On roulette, baccarat, bj etc. So many systems that people came up with I could read for hours. Id love to hear first hand other peoples styles.

The guy I played next to had a score card and im not sure why because you cant go by patterns
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May 8th, 2014 at 6:07:06 AM permalink
Quote: richbailey86

Well I can see I joined a forum of paranoid people

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May 8th, 2014 at 6:10:06 AM permalink
Quote: richbailey86

Thanks for the reply guys.I know in the long run any system will fail due to house edge

I. Was just looking for a way to play that gives a baccarat player a better edge using a certain way of betting.
...



Minimum bets means minimum losses
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May 8th, 2014 at 6:11:30 AM permalink
Quote: richbailey86

Well I can see I joined a forum of paranoid people....cool. very funny how people are in forums lol.....no way to welcome a newbie

How would you even know what they were referring to? If it was me, I would assume they just thought I was a great player, and took it as a compliment or just thought they were silly.

Come on, you knew dam well saying you followed an Asian players bets would entice a reaction. This shtick has been used before and it led to a farewell.

All was quiet and a mellow, some people are not to happy without attention on Bac systems and themselves.

If you truly are a Newbie just Read the past Bac threads including the Wizards and many others Views on -EV games and trying to beat them with betting systems. Then you may understand why, This may be why you are getting the :Hey you! We dont take kindly to your types around here.

Luckily a more level headed person runs this site. Personally I would play the odds and ban anyone asking or talking about Bac systems.For every one time I was wrong thinking who they are or the value they may add. I would be right 100 times. I like them odds, sounds like + EV to me.
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May 8th, 2014 at 6:18:09 AM permalink
Im not lookong for a full proof system. Just wanted to interact with fellow gamblers to see how they played baccarat. Thats all. Nothing more. Nothing less. Jesus

As u can see my thread wasnt about finding a grail. I just want to see how diff individuals play. And I dont do forum arguing in any way. Here to talk about gambling...

How do you play and how does it work out for you in terms of minimizing losses and maximizing wins if such a way exists

Also, there is a 'betting system' forum page withing this forum. Which is where I posted. So I never posted out of line. Theres a designation for it here. See top: gambling >betting system
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May 8th, 2014 at 6:38:54 AM permalink
Quote: richbailey86

Im not lookong for a full proof system.



I guess don't bother looking here then https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/craps/16612-full-proof-craps-system/
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May 8th, 2014 at 6:39:35 AM permalink
Wudged. Never played craps. Scared to jump in
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May 8th, 2014 at 6:47:29 AM permalink
Quote: richbailey86

How do you play and how does it work out for you in terms of minimizing losses and maximizing wins if such a way exists



Make the minimum bet to minimize losses.

Only way to maximize wins is to quit once slightly ahead and never ever play again for the rest of your life.

You are ahead 400, never play again and you are a winner.
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May 8th, 2014 at 6:53:03 AM permalink
Well. I wish it was that easy. I like casinos. Lol
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May 8th, 2014 at 7:01:24 AM permalink
Quote: wudged

I guess don't bother looking here then https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/craps/16612-full-proof-craps-system/



What casino accepts a $1 bet anyways. Im guessing youd have a bet on pass line
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May 8th, 2014 at 7:09:45 AM permalink
Quote: richbailey86

Wudged. Never played craps. Scared to jump in

Your writing is eerily similar to some other Baccarat rebel rousers including a few key words and phrases I have seen before. >>>Just wanted to interact with fellow gamblers <<< >>>minimizing losses and maximizing wins<<< "FULL" proof, grail

OH ya, don't forget the sitting next to an Asian, following bets and winning. in the same city. I think that person posed as a female.
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May 8th, 2014 at 7:11:22 AM permalink
I dont even know what to say....
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May 8th, 2014 at 7:12:24 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Your writing is eerily similar to some other Baccarat rebel rousers including a few key words and phrases I have seen before. >>>Just wanted to interact with fellow gamblers <<< >>>minimizing losses and maximizing wins<<< "FULL" proof, grail

OH ya, don't forget the sitting next to an Asian, following bets and winning. in the same city. I think that person posed as a female.



I don't know what to say. If you are getting at me being someone whose posted before, nope. First time here. Sure a moderator could confirm. We dont need to converse....no reason to go back and forth

All I can tell us is this. I just joined the forum and already im engaged in bickering I want no part of. ...relax man....

Again I posted in the betting system portion of this website to see how people play and ur attacking me. Shhhh
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May 8th, 2014 at 8:12:10 AM permalink
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...relax man...



Agree. If a "new" member is actually a previously banned member, he'll be found out soon enough. Certainly before he becomes a harmful disruption. However, if we accuse every new member with familiarity of being a sock puppet, we create an unpleasant and hostile environment that discourages new membership.


Quote: richbailey86


I know in the long run any system will fail due to house edge. Was just looking for a way to play that gives a baccarat player a better edge using a certain way of betting...



Welcome, RB86. The part I quoted is contradictory. You can't know a system will fail because of the edge while at the same time believe you can change said edge. The edge is concrete; it cannot change.

Some people like playing whacky systems. Have at it. There's probably a few posted in here and there's tons all over the intertron. But no matter how simple or elaborate, it doesn't change the math. Know this, or bad things may happen.

Also, be advised that systems are mostly looked down upon here, hence the flak you immediately received. You want to know truth? This is the place to be. And the first truth you're likely to learn is "betting systems aren't worth the pixels they're printed with", at least from a purely financial standpoint. Entertainment value? YMMV.

Again, welcome.
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May 8th, 2014 at 8:24:59 AM permalink
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Wudged. Never played craps. Scared to jump in



Then you are denying yourself a much better game.

Depending upon the multiple of your Odds bets, you can reduce the House Edge in Craps to a fraction of the Banker bet HE.
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May 8th, 2014 at 8:25:34 AM permalink
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Agree. If a "new" member is actually a previously banned member, he'll be found out soon enough. Certainly before he becomes a harmful disruption. However, if we accuse every new member with familiarity of being a sock puppet, we create an unpleasant and hostile environment that discourages new membership.




Welcome, RB86. The part I quoted is contradictory. You can't know a system will fail because of the edge while at the same time believe you can change said edge. The edge is concrete; it cannot change.

Some people like playing whacky systems. Have at it. There's probably a few posted in here and there's tons all over the intertron. But no matter how simple or elaborate, it doesn't change the math. Know this, or bad things may happen.

Also, be advised that systems are mostly looked down upon here, hence the flak you immediately received. You want to know truth? This is the place to be. And the first truth you're likely to learn is "betting systems aren't worth the pixels they're printed with", at least from a purely financial standpoint. Entertainment value? YMMV.

Again, welcome.



Thanks for the words and the welcome.

I know betting systems are looked down on thats why I posted it in the betting systems section to hopefully attract people who wouldn't attack.

I just wanted to get an idea of how others played the game essentially

Learned my lesson.

At least you are a reasonable moderator and could see right away how assuming something could make for a hostile environment.
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May 8th, 2014 at 8:27:29 AM permalink
Quote: Tanko

Then you are denying yourself a much better game.

Depending upon the multiple of your Odds bets, you can reduce the House Edge in Craps to a fraction of the Banker bet HE.



Guess ill be reading the craps forum to learn where and when to bet
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May 8th, 2014 at 8:30:46 AM permalink
Quote: Face

Agree. If a "new" member is actually a previously banned member, he'll be found out soon enough. Certainly before he becomes a harmful disruption. However, if we accuse every new member with familiarity of being a sock puppet, we create an unpleasant and hostile environment that discourages new membership.




Welcome, RB86. The part I quoted is contradictory. You can't know a system will fail because of the edge while at the same time believe you can change said edge. The edge is concrete; it cannot change.

Some people like playing whacky systems. Have at it. There's probably a few posted in here and there's tons all over the intertron. But no matter how simple or elaborate, it doesn't change the math. Know this, or bad things may happen.

Also, be advised that systems are mostly looked down upon here, hence the flak you immediately received. You want to know truth? This is the place to be. And the first truth you're likely to learn is "betting systems aren't worth the pixels they're printed with", at least from a purely financial standpoint. Entertainment value? YMMV.

Again, welcome.

Ok you are right about everything you just said..... sorry. I know, I know we need DNA and Video evidence.

No disrespect: However I know for a fact there are some people you never catch.
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May 8th, 2014 at 8:32:11 AM permalink
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Ok you are right about everything you just said..... sorry. I know, I know we need DNA and Video evidence.

No disrespect: However I know for a fact there are some people you never catch.



You really need to take a chill pill. Moderator has my ip id assume. Facebook link in my profile......relaxxxxx
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May 8th, 2014 at 9:05:49 AM permalink
Quote: richbailey86

Thanks for the words and the welcome.

Inknow betting systems are looked down on thats why I posted it in the betting systems section to hopefully attract people who wouldn't attack.

I just wanted to get an idea of how others played the game essentially

Learned my lesson.

At least you are a reasonable moderator and could see righ away how assuming something could make for a hostile environment.



Well, you had the right idea. However, the Betting Systems area was originally made to be a dumping ground for nonsense so as to keep the main forum clean lol. In our recent past, the only Bac conversations were made by either system believers or outright hucksters, and I think every single thread became a flame war and every single Bac player is now on the ban list.

Bac isn't talked about much here because, like I said, this place is about truth and math. And when it comes to Bac, the truth and math is simple - Bet Banker every time. Without a complex strategy or actual AP play that requires intelligence, it dies here. I can only think of one legit member who enjoyed Bac, and I haven't seen her on in well over a year (heather).
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May 8th, 2014 at 9:11:05 AM permalink
Quote: richbailey86

As a new baccarat player im curious to read what some betting systems some of you are using successfully. ...

I just got back from AC and turned 100 into 500 just by following what the asian guy next to me was doing, lol

Thanks

Rich



Hey Rich

I flat bet for second line repeats after the shoe has dealt 7 or more switches in a row. The bet is triggered when the shoe shows repeat. Example
p b p b p b p b p b b. in this series there are nine switches followed by repeat. At this point I flat bet for a second line repeat only for the remainder of shoe. That's the best I can do....

I think you'll like Bac. No 7's, no 0,00 and no dealer drawing 7 cards for 21 to beat your 20. It's a gentle game.
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May 8th, 2014 at 9:44:05 AM permalink
Quote: Face

Well, you had the right idea. However, the Betting Systems area was originally made to be a dumping ground for nonsense so as to keep the main forum clean lol. In our recent past, the only Bac conversations were made by either system believers or outright hucksters, and I think everyI single thread became a flame war and every single Bac player is now on the ban list.

Bac isn't talked about much here because, like I said, this place is about truth and math. And when it comes to Bac, the truth and math is simple - Bet Banker every time. Without a complex strategy or actual AP play that requires intelligence, it dies here. I can only think of one legit member who enjoyed Bac, and I haven't seen her on in well over a year (heather).



Thanks

The way I see it is if an individual is going to attack someone for speaking of a strategy or to see how others play then perhaps viewing the betting system portion of the forum means they are just looking for a flame war....or feel like they r the "im the duplicate poster police"..just saying

Im also into roulette but believe me I wont be posting strategies for that anytime soon lol
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May 8th, 2014 at 9:50:31 AM permalink
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The way I see it is if an individual is going to attack someone for speaking of a strategy or to see how others play then perhaps viewing the betting system portion of the forum means they are looking for a flame war....just saying



Ah, but it is that same type of assumption that makes them attack. After all, you must know you can't beat Bac, so you must be here to either incite or huck a system. You must be! =)

Many here are well intentioned. Even the ones who are the most brutal may have underlying reasons for being so. Sure, they could just be trying to start something. Or maybe they're trying to protect Wiz, as he doesn't want systems here. Or maybe they've been taken by a system before when they were younger and more ignorant, and are now lashing out to protect others. Who knows? But all Bac players aren't system hucksters, and all Bac bashers are not unabashed trolls. There's room in the in between, and we should all try to give benefit of doubt before pointing fingers.

Who knows what we may learn in the meantime?
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May 8th, 2014 at 9:55:52 AM permalink
The guy next to me in AC must have had a system! He played for hours. Stacking up stacks of black chips. And the next morning he was still there. He didnt speak good english so I couldnt learn, just follow lol. Either that or he is just a lucky man

P.s. ive been playing on rtg and I dont have a good feeling about it
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May 8th, 2014 at 10:07:10 AM permalink
Quote: richbailey86

The guy next to me in AC must have had a system! He played for hours. Stacking up stacks of black chips. And the next morning he was still there. He didnt speak good english so I couldnt learn, just follow lol. Either that or he is just a lucky man

P.s. ive been playing on rtg and I dont have a good feeling about it

OK I apologize. Can we be friends?
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May 8th, 2014 at 10:08:19 AM permalink
Of course
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May 8th, 2014 at 10:17:05 AM permalink
Quote: richbailey86

The guy next to me in AC must have had a system! He played for hours. Stacking up stacks of black chips. And the next morning he was still there. He didnt speak good english so I couldnt learn, just follow lol. Either that or he is just a lucky man

P.s. ive been playing on rtg and I dont have a good feeling about it

You should talk to AnabelleT. She has a similar but more colorful and detailed story about Bac. It seems You both ran into what seems to be the same old Asian guy. She to found this forum soon after. and even has a nice signature line like you.= "The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me." Ayn Rand. I think it's fate for sure
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May 8th, 2014 at 10:18:02 AM permalink
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Of course

Certainly you will accept my Facebook friends request?
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May 8th, 2014 at 10:21:32 AM permalink
I like ron paul. Thats why thats my signature. Boy if you were a detective ud make a lot of false arrests
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May 8th, 2014 at 10:34:29 AM permalink
WOV's resident detective, Beethoven, Is now spending all of his time at DT.
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May 8th, 2014 at 10:35:29 AM permalink
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WOV's resident detective, Beethoven, Is now spending all of his time at DT.



Since you entered my baccarat thread whats ur strategy boss?

You have a lot to say. Lets hear it
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May 8th, 2014 at 10:40:09 AM permalink
baccarat in my opinion is one of the worst games you can play in a casino.

http://oi59.tinypic.com/30kc13m.jpg

Due to the low variance. You can see from the chart if you are flat betting and are in the luckiest 84th percentile you will hardly broach 25 units won for any length of time played.

Since the game is so futile for flat betters it encourages you to vary your bet size to have any real chance of winning. This attribute can encourage people to gamble more than they can afford.

That's my case against baccarat.. don't play it..
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May 8th, 2014 at 10:43:01 AM permalink
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baccarat in my opinion is one of the worst games you can play in a casino.

http://oi59.tinypic.com/30kc13m.jpg

Due to the low variance. If you are flat betting and are in the luckiest 84th percentile you will hardly broach 25 units won for any length of time played.

Since the game is so futile for flat betters it encourages you to vary your bet size to have any real chance of winning. This attribute can encourage people to gamble more than they can afford.

That's my case against baccarat.. don't play it..



Fair enough. To be honest roulettes been my game for years. I just started playing baccarat and now im exploring craps. Just brainstorming ideas on how people play. I figured if someone had success id hear it here lol. Ive never lost on roulette, straight luck no skill (I lose but overall im up)

To win on bacc flat betting, banker would have to win more than player in the shoe and ud have to be on a no commission table
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May 8th, 2014 at 10:53:32 AM permalink
Quote: richbailey86

Since you entered my baccarat thread whats ur strategy boss?

You have a lot to say. Lets hear it

1) Look for Phil Ivey
2) look for loss rebates
3) Match plays
4) Don't talk about it if you see it.
5) DON'T PLAY
6) If i can get some good sleeping pills and you assure me there is no hell. Kill Ellis steal the Nor system and teach classes.
7) Ask my leprechaun for advice
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May 8th, 2014 at 1:20:22 PM permalink
I've tried numerous systems over the years and this system has produced the most impressive results by far...

1. Buy-in for 20-30 units (play with a bankroll you can afford to lose)
2. Bet nothing or a single unit until you see a good trend forming (banker streaks seem to be very common)
3. Follow the trend and try parlaying a single unit 2-3 times during a winning streak
4. Limit your max bets to half your profit if you get up over 10 units
5. Continue riding a winning streak until you finally lose a bet
6. Reduce your bet or sit out after losing 1-2 hands (NEVER chase losses with bigger and bigger bets)
7. If you hit a massive winning streak, make sure you leave with at least double your buy-in
8. If you're struggling to make profit after several hours, be content with a 50% profit margin and leave

So far this year, this system has worked 6 out of 7 trips with a $500-800 buy-in. Results are -500,+60,+320,+1040,+1015,+500, and +715.

I was +1200 during my first trip, but I got greedy and went on tilt after losing several hands in a row. After that devastating loss, I took a few months off to cool down and simulate more shoes at home.

Most sessions took only 1-2 hours. My 4th session took a bit longer because I was stuck betting ~$20 until a banker streak of 9 finally hit after 3 hours of play.

Riding trends is bullshit according to the math, but my favorite casino keeps pumping out nice banker streaks shoe after shoe.

A few nights ago I saw a table that had 20 more bankers than players... I hope to catch a shoe like that in the near future!
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May 8th, 2014 at 1:28:25 PM permalink
Here is the best baccarat system and I will actually guarantee it will work.
First wire in some money to a casino preferably 100k+. The amount can go up and down but it has to be enough that the casino wants you there.
Second find a table dealing from a shoe where the cards they are using have a back pattern that is slightly off, these are luckier.
Third play an entire shoe with a one unit bet on banker and every time a 9 comes out have the dealer turn it 180 degrees in order to bring more luck.
Fourth when the next shoe starts keep an eye on the shoe. When the hand is about to start if the back pattern doesn't match the rest bet big on player. If it does match then bet big on banker.

That's it. I guarantee this system will succeed.
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May 9th, 2014 at 5:18:06 PM permalink
Quote: drjohnny

I've tried numerous systems over the years and this system has produced the most impressive results by far...

1. Buy-in for 20-30 units (play with a bankroll you can afford to lose)
2. Bet nothing or a single unit until you see a good trend forming (banker streaks seem to be very common)
3. Follow the trend and try parlaying a single unit 2-3 times during a winning streak
4. Limit your max bets to half your profit if you get up over 10 units
5. Continue riding a winning streak until you finally lose a bet
6. Reduce your bet or sit out after losing 1-2 hands (NEVER chase losses with bigger and bigger bets)
7. If you hit a massive winning streak, make sure you leave with at least double your buy-in
8. If you're struggling to make profit after several hours, be content with a 50% profit margin and leave

So far this year, this system has worked 6 out of 7 trips with a $500-800 buy-in. Results are -500,+60,+320,+1040,+1015,+500, and +715.

I was +1200 during my first trip, but I got greedy and went on tilt after losing several hands in a row. After that devastating loss, I took a few months off to cool down and simulate more shoes at home.

Most sessions took only 1-2 hours. My 4th session took a bit longer because I was stuck betting ~$20 until a banker streak of 9 finally hit after 3 hours of play.

Riding trends is bullshit according to the math, but my favorite casino keeps pumping out nice banker streaks shoe after shoe.

A few nights ago I saw a table that had 20 more bankers than players... I hope to catch a shoe like that in the near future!



awesome
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May 9th, 2014 at 5:46:57 PM permalink
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awesome

sure ignore the real winning system and acknowledge the bad one.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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May 10th, 2014 at 3:41:14 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

sure ignore the real winning system and acknowledge the bad one.



of course I ignored it I made this thread so I can get feedback from others on how they specifically play the game and what strategies they use to make me a better player. so I'm not interested in sarcastic answers. that being said I'm still getting private message from members thinking that I'm somebody else. so, so far being a member here has been a bad experience. I just wanted to talk to people with similar interests

if you arent interested in this thread or reading how people play baccarat then don't read the thread, because getting pointers is all I care about. The petty responses I could care less about.

I'm a grown man, not interested in going back and forth like little girls on a message board or getting private messages from people who idiotically assume im someone else
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May 10th, 2014 at 6:41:06 AM permalink
Quote: richbailey86

I made this thread so I can get feedback from others on how they specifically play the game and what strategies they use to make me a better player. so I'm not interested in sarcastic answers.



You can always swipe the pens.

I tried this on the Zumma tester and I'm ahead 600 pens. (on paper).

The best strategy is to follow the Wizard's advice bet Banker every time.

You can train a monkey to do this.

Millions of people play Baccarat because it doesn't require any skill or thought.

This is why it is also called "Blackjack for dummies"

Case in Point:

Bring your dad to school day

If you learn Blackjack Basic Strategy and simply flat bet, you can play a game with a HE of .38 at Mohegan Sun or .66 at AC.

If you learn to count cards, you might even do better.

Taking or Laying Odds bets in Craps also reduces the HE considerably.

Don't waste your time and money on Baccarat.
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May 10th, 2014 at 6:52:07 AM permalink
Quote: Tanko

You can always swipe the free pens

I tried this on the Zumma tester and I'm ahead 600 pens. (on paper).

The best strategy is to follow the Wizard's advice bet Banker every time.

You can train a monkey to do this.

Millions of people play Baccarat because it doesn't require any skill or thought.

This is why it is also called "Blackjack for dummies"

Case in Point:

Bring your dad to school day

If you learn Blackjack Basic Strategy and simply flat bet, you can play a game with a HE of .38 at Mohegan Sun or .66 at AC.

If you learn to count cards, you might even do better.

Taking or Laying Odds bets in Craps also reduces the HE considerably.

Don't waste your time and money on Baccarat.



Thank you

Blackjack basic strategy lowers house edge to .38? Never been big into blackjack..always lost..my next stop is mohegan, maybe ill try
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May 21st, 2014 at 7:32:11 AM permalink
Quote: richbailey86

As a new baccarat player im curious to read what some betting systems some of you are using successfully. ...

I just got back from AC and turned 100 into 500 just by following what the asian guy next to me was doing, lol

Thanks

Rich



Here's another system I've used recently with modest success. Wait for two runs of five or more in the shoe. Then, after a repeat p,p or b,b play the opposite side three times using a 1-3-9 negative progression. Example p,p, then bet one unit banker, if lost three units banker, if lost nine units banker. Maximum loss 13 units.

The idea is that you have avoided losing 26 units by waiting and that the average shoe has two runs of 5 or more. I'm sure I'll get backed off soon.
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May 21st, 2014 at 1:29:04 PM permalink
interesting

backed off meaning?
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May 26th, 2014 at 7:29:31 AM permalink
Yet more wisdom from TTB. Wait for the shoe to show a skew of 10 lets say .....that is,10 more bankers than players or vice versa. Play against the imbalance, flat betting remainder of shoe.

The idea is that if one plays long enough the gambler should see close to a 50-50 distribution of player, banker.

For more methods go to www.anotherdumbassmethod.com
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