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Greasyjohn
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April 30th, 2018 at 10:15:48 AM permalink
Quote: DrawingDead

This is the first time I've heard the other version, first one above, in which it was accidental. But I do find it easily believable, and I wouldn't be too surprised if the version I know of has to do with a story cooked up to explain something away, maybe running out of punctuation funding after blowing all that money buying vowels. It is consistent with how an awful lot of things got (half-assed) done in the course of the creation of the Las Vegas Strip. The construction of the Stratosphere tower, with more than a little incompetence involved, including the 'feet' at the base supporting that tower not getting put where they're supposed to be, comes readily to mind as just one example among many.

But then, in the case of the Crib for a bunch of Caesars - Version #2 that I'm more familiar with, I don't necessarily agree with the conclusion that there should've then been an apostrophe added in the plural form (s') indicating possession of the alleged "Palace" at Flamingo & LVB by all those grubby little supposed Caesars that are to be in it. Anymore than a nuthouse known as a loony bin needs to be nut's or nuts' house or a loony's bin indicating that the inmates are in charge of the asylum, or say if a den of thieves was appropriately named Thieves Den that it must necessarily become either Thief's or Thieves' Den - maybe the thieves didn't either buy the joint or steal it fair & square, but it is rented out for use by thieves. Or nuts, or a bunch of wannabe Caesars for about as long as their money lasts.



Thieves den is more of a figure of speech. But if there was a restaurant, say, with that name then it would be Thieves' Den. Or a restaurant could be named Thief's Den if it referred to a lone individual.

A girlfriend I once had whose sister had a Phd in English is the one who set me straight on the Caesars Palace missing apostrophe. She could be mistaken, but I don't think so.
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April 30th, 2018 at 12:30:59 PM permalink
She is likely mistaken. Plural nouns are often not intended to be possessive; she's made an assumption.

But whether she is or isn't mistaken about what it ought to be named, the name of the place is what it is. And that fact remains, no matter what any of us thinks of it, that the name of the place is, and will continue to be, legally, formally, in documents, on company letterhead, on paychecks, and every which way, as well as informally in common daily practice, in fact: Caesars Palace. Or Caesars if you are slumming it by vacationing in New Jersey, with my sincere condolences.

Because a name is what something has been named, without regard to what it should be named. Even when it is a " Hi I'm Luvli with an 'i' and I'll be your server today" which should be grounds for having someone, probably both Luvli with an "i" and her parents, shot, no matter what credentials their sister has procured. But isn't.

Not that it matters or anything.
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Greasyjohn
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April 30th, 2018 at 12:54:06 PM permalink
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She is likely mistaken. Plural nouns are often not intended to be possessive; she's made an assumption.



But "Caesars Palace" is possessive. Even Jay Sarno communicated that (if his version of the story is correct--and even if it's not).
darkoz
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April 30th, 2018 at 1:15:06 PM permalink
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But "Caesars Palace" is possessive. Even Jay Sarno communicated that (if his version of the story is correct--and even if it's not).



I thought you cant have the pluralized apostraphe after a plural s

Caesar' Palace not Caesars' Palace

Otherwise its redundant.
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April 30th, 2018 at 1:23:22 PM permalink
Oh my, time for me to bail; so take it from here 'cause it's all yours now Mr. John.

Quote: darkoz

I thought you cant have the pluralized apostraphe after a plural s

Caesar' Palace not Caesars' Palace

Otherwise its redundant.

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April 30th, 2018 at 1:26:58 PM permalink
Quote: DrawingDead

This is the first time I've heard the other version, first one above, in which it was accidental. But I do find it easily believable, and I wouldn't be too surprised if the version I know of has to do with a story cooked up to explain something away, maybe running out of punctuation funding after blowing all that money buying vowels.



That one's a fairly common joke; I've heard it by at least three comedians who I got free tickets for. The most recent one was over at The D, which... yeah, that place deserves it. "Come on, you were expecting props? They couldn't even afford a name here; it's just an article."
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April 30th, 2018 at 4:56:01 PM permalink
It's just better that it was kept at Caesars instead of Caesar's or Caesars' Palace. How would they have named the one in Atlantic City without the Palace? Just Caesar?

I wish the Caesars Palace (in vegas) had a better diamond lounge and perhaps a 7-stars lounge like AC. Otherwise, it's pretty much a dump with a little bit of lipstick on it. IMO the checking lobby and the buffet are the only things appealing about Caesars Palace.
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April 30th, 2018 at 7:16:06 PM permalink
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It looks like at least one person was injured on them:

Iím looking at photos of the escalators and I canít tell what made them dangerous?

I was too young to gamble when the Revel opened so I have never been there.



They are unusually long and the upper ones are suspended multiple stories high above the lobby level with no physical support under each one of them. Add to that the fact that there are clearly no unusual measures built in to protect against someone going over the edge and you had something that made a lot of people uneasy.

Just putting up glass protectors might make them literally safer but I wouldn't be surprised if some people still find them psychologically challenging.
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April 30th, 2018 at 7:38:29 PM permalink
Trying to figure out where HR and Ocean are finding enough quality employees to open. Many left the area when the casinos closed and Unemployment isnít high. So they are either getting less than ideal employees, are stealing them from other casinos or are importing them.

AC in 2 years will be interesting to see who is still standing.
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May 3rd, 2018 at 4:37:35 PM permalink
Probably will be the same, there are always people in AC, they're just not all gambling.

Buffet lines are pretty long at CET, Borgata, Harrahs, & Trop. Concerts are always packed with tourists and the IMAX theatre has a steady flow of patrons seeing the newest Super hero flick.

And this has been from just November until now, perhaps the summer crowd will increase tourism and commerce in AC?

The outlet malls still give the town plenty of outside business and if the casinos would wise up and re-up on offers like Mystery Multipliers, New & Inactive member bonuses and even deal out some comp rooms for second & third tier rating players, it could get the long time holdouts back. But that's a big IF!

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