MrsHeartRN
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January 10th, 2015 at 10:35:12 PM permalink
I can respect all your thoughts and deductions about the Golden Nugget and I am in no way implying that the Golden Nugget is anything more than what it is. They've done a nice job in turning the "moldy" Trump Marina around.

I for one like a casino where I win and I have had some more winning sessions at the Golden Nugget than anywhere else in the past year or so. That alone makes me have a positive spin on the GN. I'm a gambler and when I come to AC I like to gamble. If I want luxury, I'd go someplace where I could put my toes in the sand and the water's crystal clear. (and it not AC, lol) All I need a clean room and casino, to feel safe wile I gamble through the night, variety of machines and decent places to eat for my 2 nights. GN fits that bill for me.

I love the Borgata's atmosphere and amenities but heck I can hit the side of a barn in that place and that's been like that for years. Each time I stay there or visit my money goes poof..... I like to play 3 card along with slots. and for about a year they had those terrible side bets and lowered the payouts. You can only take losing at a casino for so long before you sign off on it.

As I said earlier, I've been a Taj regular for years and the main reason? I win there, not always but more than other casino's I've stayed with. As you know it's all cyclical, started with Showboat, then went to Resorts, the Borgata before settling in at the Taj.

Right now I'm in limbo, I'll go wherever I get a weekend room (CET properties are out, I'm only Platinum, Borgata's out, I'm only Red) I get weekend rooms at all the other casinos.
You only go around once, but if you play your cards right, once is enough. ¯ Francis Albert
sodawater
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January 11th, 2015 at 12:44:27 AM permalink
MrsHeart,

If you want to win more often you should play better games and better bets. The cards don't know if they are inside the Taj or the Nugget or the Borgata. You mentioned 3CP, which is pretty terrible across the board.

It's silly to say you patronize a casino because you win there. Unless the game is fundamentally different (and none of them in AC are), this is just constructing false narratives.
MrsHeartRN
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January 11th, 2015 at 6:31:14 AM permalink
Soda, soda, soda. It might be silly to patronize a casino I win at, but call me silly. It might be silly but I tend to gravitate to slots and games I enjoy playing, again call me silly, I'm ok with that.

I'm sure there are better games and slots out there with better odds. I know this is a Wizard of ODDS forum. I've won big on 3 card and Let it Ride both in AC and Vegas and knock wood, I usually get at least 1 straight flush and one 3 of a kind per trip. I know the odds suck and I always do the sucker bet. Last Vegas trip I won $16,000 on LIR (SF) and $8,000 at 3 Card. I know that doesn't happen all the time but I usually come out with at least my buy in after hours and hours of play. I'm ok with that.

I do NOT like blackjack, I NEVER get the cards, it's just not enjoyable for me. I don't believe my personal experiences are considered false narratives, they are my personal honest feedback, and should to be taken as such.

BTW, can you suggest better games and better bets that I might try other than Blackjack?
You only go around once, but if you play your cards right, once is enough. ¯ Francis Albert
darkoz
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January 11th, 2015 at 6:51:05 AM permalink
Quote: sodawater

MrsHeart,

If you want to win more often you should play better games and better bets. The cards don't know if they are inside the Taj or the Nugget or the Borgata. You mentioned 3CP, which is pretty terrible across the board.

It's silly to say you patronize a casino because you win there. Unless the game is fundamentally different (and none of them in AC are), this is just constructing false narratives.



I, too will gravitate towards a casino I tend to win more at. Do I understand the cards (or roulette ball in my case) don't know where they are located? Of course I do.

But it comes down to how many times should I stay in a place if I lose so often when I win more at the other. Even if it boils down to random luck, I'd rather go where that luck is hitting me.

There are other reasons that are more practical for staying in a place you have had past winning streaks in. One is that, because of those higher win rates, I was able to show longer play there and that has resulted in higher comps so now I feel more wanted at that property and the extra free-play and higher table match-plays have contributed to more winning versus losing.

So there is something to the whole thing.
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bw
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January 11th, 2015 at 6:57:53 AM permalink
Borgata got rid of the stupid linked progressives now on the 3 card poker and other table games, and again offers 100:1 payout for a mini royal on 3 card.
MrsHeartRN
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January 11th, 2015 at 7:37:34 AM permalink
Thanks bw, I was there recently and saw that. Many played 3 card at the Borgata for that 100:1 mini royal payout. Those 3 card tables were empty for a very long time. I used to get mini royals all the time UNTIL they started the higher payouts on them, since they started I haven't hit one. lol

I know its bad odds but I like playing 3 card at the GN (sorry to go back there again) it's the only casino in AC where you can play more on the Pair Plus spot. You can do that in Vegas and at MS in CT. I think it's not in favor of the casino or you'd be able to do that at other casino's in AC, but I'm not certain. When the GN has $5 tables I play $25 on the PP spot and I've hit some really good hands. I have a potential to get a nice hit for around the same money as it would be if I was playing a $10 table. I like the ability to up and lower my bets dependent on if I'm getting good cards so my bankroll can last longer.

I was staying there the days that stupid progressives started. Some guy was playing that bonus and hit 4 of a kind for $1,000 and had to fill out a W2. ( know table w2's are based on progressive side bet odds). The payouts reminded me of Caribbean Stud payouts, the F's (flush, full house, four of a kind, etc.) He was livid and threw after he got paid out, threw his Borgata card at the pit boss and walked out vowing to never play at the Borgata again.
You only go around once, but if you play your cards right, once is enough. ¯ Francis Albert
AxelWolf
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January 11th, 2015 at 8:15:51 AM permalink
Quote: MrsHeartRN



BTW, can you suggest better games and better bets that I might try other than Blackjack?

You might try Video Poker(some can be fun), the pay table dictates how well you will do overall. It's not like that with slots, 2 machines that look exactly the same can have different long term paybacks. Im not sure exactly how often 2 different casinos actually have different settings on the same type of slot in competing markets. For instance... take a Family Guy slot machine, it's probably set to hold 14% on average(atrocious). I would assume it's the same % at the casinos down the street. Again, I'm just assuming. Maybe Drich or someone in the know could shed some light on this.

I know casinos Downtown Vegas and local casinos have overall better paybacks compared to the strip, but Video poker is calculated into that as well, and the strip tends to have more of the big name star/TV/movie themed, expensive slots.

I used to use the 10% hold rule on slots (unless I know better), but nowadays that seems to low its more like 14%(greedy bastards).
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FYI GN has $1 9/6 JOB 99.54% return, however they are stingy on the comps when playing the 9/6. You should vastly make up for the comps in money saved per hr compared to slots.

Assuming 800 spins per hr on slots, at $1 a spin, that is costing you about $112 in value (OUCH!).

You can play 800 hands of 9/6 JOB at $5 a hand and you only lose about $18.

9/6 is a bit boring, but you can easily find some fun VP games that are less than 3% disadvantage with good comps/perks.

They have some VP machines that have double up, thats a break even bet.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
MrsHeartRN
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January 11th, 2015 at 8:33:55 AM permalink
Thanks AxelWolf, I do play VP and I know the 9/6 JOB are getting harder and harder to find. I have played the 9/6 JOB in the high limit room at the GN. I play $1 machines. I know the theoretical odds, and your calculations on playing 800 hands at $5 a hand look great on paper but I've never been able to play 800 hands at $5 and come out only losing $18 in many years of playing VP on a 9/6 JOB. As you said, it's a little boring playing only one type of machine for 2 days but I guess that's what you have to do to even hope to reach that outcome.

I don't know about different settings on the same machine in different casinos but I was told by multiple hosts in various casino's that ADT and comps accumulate differently dependent on which slots you play.
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Dicenor33
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January 11th, 2015 at 9:46:25 AM permalink
GN has the best craps at AC. Mostly seasoned players, game conducted at comfortable pace, tables are semi full, nobody annoys you of how the dice should be thrown. Tables have a nice padding, decent rolls are pretty common.
Mosca
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January 11th, 2015 at 10:31:03 AM permalink
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I know its bad odds but I like playing 3 card at the GN (sorry to go back there again) it's the only casino in AC where you can play more on the Pair Plus spot. You can do that in Vegas and at MS in CT. I think it's not in favor of the casino or you'd be able to do that at other casino's in AC, but I'm not certain. When the GN has $5 tables I play $25 on the PP spot and I've hit some really good hands. I have a potential to get a nice hit for around the same money as it would be if I was playing a $10 table. I like the ability to up and lower my bets dependent on if I'm getting good cards so my bankroll can last longer.

I was staying there the days that stupid progressives started. Some guy was playing that bonus and hit 4 of a kind for $1,000 and had to fill out a W2. ( know table w2's are based on progressive side bet odds). The payouts reminded me of Caribbean Stud payouts, the F's (flush, full house, four of a kind, etc.) He was livid and threw after he got paid out, threw his Borgata card at the pit boss and walked out vowing to never play at the Borgata again.



Pairs Plus is actually a far worse bet. But Paigowdan explained why they still don't allow the higher bet: when players hit it, they would often cash out and leave after a couple more hands.

If you've been playing 3 Card a while, you might remember when the pay table was 40/30/6/4/1; that was actually pretty good. The flush went to 3 in part to counter players leaving after a big win.

The best Pairs Plus bet in the world is on Let It Ride at Borgata: 50 for the mini Royal, and 40/30/6/4/1 for the other bets, and they'll let you bet 10 on the spots and at the same time up to 100 on the 3 Card bet. The house edge on that bet is just a hair over 2%, which is better than playing badly at blackjack.

And finally, PA casinos will let you play just the Pair Plus and $1 progressive. They understand the edge. (About 7.5% on Pairs Plus at 40/30/6/3/1, and about 25% on the progressive.)
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