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5 votes (35.71%)
3 votes (21.42%)
1 vote (7.14%)
No votes (0%)
4 votes (28.57%)
1 vote (7.14%)
2 votes (14.28%)
1 vote (7.14%)
1 vote (7.14%)
4 votes (28.57%)

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June 15th, 2017 at 6:02:04 PM permalink
There were two men, Bob and Jim, having a meal. Bob brought five loaves of bread, and Jim brought three. A third man came and joined them. They together ate the whole eight loaves. As he left, the third man gave the other two men eight coins as a thank you.

Then Bob and Jim began to argue about how to split up the eight coins and could not come to an agreement, except to consult a wise Wizard and do accept whatever division he suggested.

What did the Wizard suggest? Free beer to the first answer I consider to be correct. As always, no searching and put answers in spoiler tags.

The question for the poll is what do you consider a fair split? Multiple votes allowed.

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RogerKint
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June 15th, 2017 at 6:18:47 PM permalink
4 coins each


For those terrified of gluten, the very reasonably priced buffet at Gold Coast has gluten free desserts that are surprisingly tasty.
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June 15th, 2017 at 6:24:33 PM permalink
You each ate 2 2/3 loaves, you gluttons. Jim donated 1/3 of a loaf to the stranger, and Bob donated 2 1/3, a ratio of 1:7. Therefore, Jim is due 1 coin and Bob is due 7.


The stranger did not pay for his meal; he offered a gift to the two of you for your generosity and camaraderie. As such, you should take the gift in the spirit in which it was given and split it evenly between you.
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June 15th, 2017 at 6:28:53 PM permalink

Hmmm.
Assume each had equal appetite and ate 1/3 of the 8 loaves or 8/3 loaves

Now, Bob had contributed 5 (=15/3) loaves and ate 8/3 so he had given 7/3 loaves to the third guy
Jim had contributed 3(=9/3) loaves but ate 8/3 of them. So he had given 1/3 loaves to the 3rd guy
Thus their contributions had ratio 7 to 1, Bob should receive 7 coins and Jim should receive 1

They should then pool their coins and buy 8 pints of beer
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June 15th, 2017 at 6:30:08 PM permalink
Quote: Joeman

You each ate 2 2/3 loaves, you gluttons. Jim donated 1/3 of a loaf to the stranger, and Bob donated 2 1/3, a ratio of 1:7. Therefore, Jim is due 1 coin and Bob is due 7.



Yes, this is the answer I was looking for. Congratulations!
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June 15th, 2017 at 7:15:10 PM permalink

Nowhere in the problem does it say how many loaves each one ate. The split needs to be based on that.

It reminds me of the time I was proctoring a math contest problem - "On what day of the week will January 1, 2000 be?" (this was asked in 1978) - and gave full credit to anyone whose proof was, "I looked it up in the calendar in the back of the phone book." When the teacher in charge questioned my judgment, I responded, "Nowhere in the problem does it say what day of the week any other day is, and if they have to look that up, then looking up the date for 1/1/2000 is just as valid."

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June 15th, 2017 at 9:27:32 PM permalink
Quote: ThatDonGuy


Nowhere in the problem does it say how many loaves each one ate. The split needs to be based on that.




Fair point. However, if I spelled out that every man ate an equal portion, then an astute reader would know that was pertinent to the problem and focus on bread consumed. I was trying to get the reader to think of that without leading the horse to water. Absent information to the contrary, I think it seems fair to assume they all ate about the same amount.

If you, or anyone, would care to suggest an alternative wording, that doesn't give the answer away, I'm all ears.
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June 15th, 2017 at 10:04:41 PM permalink
Wait hold on.
I think it's quite unlikely they'd each eat 2 and 2/3'rds loaves. It's more likely that Jim and Bob each ate 3 loaves and the straggler ate 2 loaves. Y'all really thinking one dude's like, "okay so we have a total of 8 loaves and 3 people, that's 2.66 loaves each.....I'll give him 1/3 of one of my loaves and you give him 2 and 1/3 loaves of your bread, that way we'll all have 2 and 2/3'rds loaves to eat!"

It's also likely Bob ate 5 loaves Jim ate 3, because one would only bring enough bread to eat. Doesn't seem like they were expecting the straggler to arrive. The breadless straggler likely was paying off a bet he had lost.

Notice how straggler shows up AFTER they are having a meal. He likely does this often and was told, "go away, this isn't communist Russia! Go get your own darn bread!!"
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June 15th, 2017 at 10:19:08 PM permalink
Quote: RS



Notice how straggler shows up AFTER they are having a meal. He likely does this often and was told, "go away, this isn't communist Russia! Go get your own darn bread!!"



Hammer sickle your way right out of this bread party, mister.
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June 15th, 2017 at 10:26:56 PM permalink
The real question.... who brought the peanut butter and jelly?
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