March 19th, 2017 at 5:12:39 PM
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I am seeking what the odds are of a very, very unusual blackjack hand!!! Ready for this scenario??

A six deck blackjack table. (Dealer hits on 16, standard blackjack.)

A player is dealt two aces (A1 & A2). She splits.

A1 is dealt a face card (blackjack #1, henceforth known as BJ1). A2 is dealt an ace (A3) - so she splits again.

(Review: there are now three aces in front of the player, one has been made into BJ1).

A2 is dealt a face card (blackjack #2, henceforth known as BJ2). A3 is dealt an ace (A4) - so she splits again.

(Review: there are now four aces in front of the player, two have been made into BJ1 & BJ2).

A3 is dealt a face card (blackjack #3, henceforth known as BJ3).

A4 is dealt a ten (blackjack #4, aka BJ4).

(Review: there are now four aces in front of the player, all four have been made into BJ1, BJ2, BJ3, and BJ4).

What are the odds of this happening?

A six deck blackjack table. (Dealer hits on 16, standard blackjack.)

A player is dealt two aces (A1 & A2). She splits.

A1 is dealt a face card (blackjack #1, henceforth known as BJ1). A2 is dealt an ace (A3) - so she splits again.

(Review: there are now three aces in front of the player, one has been made into BJ1).

A2 is dealt a face card (blackjack #2, henceforth known as BJ2). A3 is dealt an ace (A4) - so she splits again.

(Review: there are now four aces in front of the player, two have been made into BJ1 & BJ2).

A3 is dealt a face card (blackjack #3, henceforth known as BJ3).

A4 is dealt a ten (blackjack #4, aka BJ4).

(Review: there are now four aces in front of the player, all four have been made into BJ1, BJ2, BJ3, and BJ4).

What are the odds of this happening?

Last edited by: phoebeanne on Mar 19, 2017

March 19th, 2017 at 5:51:11 PM
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Assuming by "Ten" for BJ4 and "Face Card" for BJ1, BJ2, and BJ3 you are referring to any ten-valued card and not specifically to JQK for the first 3 blackjacks and T for the 4-th blackjack, the answer is 4,034,212-to-1.

You may be asking more generally about the question, "how often do Aces split to 4 hands and make blackjack on each hand," but I have no idea if that's what you are really asking, so I will just answer the question you asked (with an assumption about Tens and Face Cards).

You may be asking more generally about the question, "how often do Aces split to 4 hands and make blackjack on each hand," but I have no idea if that's what you are really asking, so I will just answer the question you asked (with an assumption about Tens and Face Cards).

March 19th, 2017 at 6:02:22 PM
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WOW - thanks! No, I was not asking that general question, so thank you! How in the world does one go about figuring that out??

March 19th, 2017 at 6:31:16 PM
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Quote:teliotAssuming by "Ten" for BJ4 and "Face Card" for BJ1, BJ2, and BJ3 you are referring to any ten-valued card and not specifically to JQK for the first 3 blackjacks and T for the 4-th blackjack, the answer is 4,034,212-to-1.

Wow, that much? That's up there in Seven Card Straight Flush territory.

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March 19th, 2017 at 6:37:24 PM
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Quote:phoebeanneWOW - thanks! No, I was not asking that general question, so thank you! How in the world does one go about figuring that out??

Chance of getting an ace as your first card is 24/312 (24 aces, 312 cards). Chance of an ace on your second card is 23/311 (23 aces remaining out of 311 cards). Then 64/310 for the face card. Then 22/309 for the next ace. And so on. Multiply all them numbers up and you get your answer.

(24*23*22*21*96*95*94*93) / (312*311*310*309*308*307*306*305)

:.

http://m.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=%28%2824*23*22*21*96*95*94*93%29+%2F+%28312*311*310*309*308*307*306*305%29%29&x=0&y=0

:.

http://m.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=1%2F%28%2824*23*22*21*96*95*94*93%29+%2F+%28312*311*310*309*308*307*306*305%29%29&x=0&y=0

= 1 in 4,034,212

"What would Brian Boitano do?"

March 19th, 2017 at 7:12:34 PM
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Of course, the player had no blackjacks as a two card 21 after a split is simply a 21, not a blackjack.

March 19th, 2017 at 8:58:53 PM
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Billryan,

Depends on the casino, definitions vary by casino. The place my friend was at considered her four amazing deals blackjacks (and paid appropriately).

Depends on the casino, definitions vary by casino. The place my friend was at considered her four amazing deals blackjacks (and paid appropriately).

March 19th, 2017 at 11:28:17 PM
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Quote:phoebeanneBillryan,

Depends on the casino, definitions vary by casino. The place my friend was at considered her four amazing deals blackjacks (and paid appropriately).

I think I may have heard of this rare rule, many moons ago.....where split A's with a T count as a 3:2 BJ.

I remember once playing blackjack with my brother. He got aces, split, got a T on one of them. When dealer paid him even money, he tried to get paid 3:2 on it (he thought it was considered a blackjack). At first I thought he was joking, but then realized he was serious. He tried getting the pit boss over and I was telling him the dealer was right, it pays even money. He thought we all missed the obvious.

"What would Brian Boitano do?"

March 19th, 2017 at 11:35:54 PM
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From what I have read, that rule has been effect since casinos first adapted to Ed Thorpe in the early Sixties.

Anyone want to chime in with a casino that treats split 21s as a BJ?

When BJ pays 3-2, of course. I've seen video BJ machines that will say Blackjack when it happens but they pay even money.

Anyone want to chime in with a casino that treats split 21s as a BJ?

When BJ pays 3-2, of course. I've seen video BJ machines that will say Blackjack when it happens but they pay even money.

March 20th, 2017 at 8:37:42 AM
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The casino we were at is an Indian casino in Arizona. She was paid even money. I was wrong earlier when I said she got 3-2.