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Can Vegas recover?
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| August 14th, 2010 at 4:52:28 AM permalink | |
| PaulEWog Member since: Jan 2, 2010 Threads: 9 Posts: 110 |
The only hotel/casino I've heard of being proposed for the old Wet N Wild site was Crown Las Vegas. There was a proposal for "City by the Bay" on the New Frontier site as noted near the bottom of this page. The various "dreams" pages at VegasTodayandTomorrow.com have some pretty interesting things on them. I don't know how the strip will survive without the Addams Family Resort and Casino or Max Bear's Beverly Hillbillies Resort. |
| August 14th, 2010 at 5:54:05 AM permalink | |
| Nareed Member since: Nov 11, 2009 Threads: 186 Posts: 6047 |
I don't know all the factors involved. Do you? What was the visitor flow when they were open? Locals? Tourists? How much did they pay for property taxes? What about other expenses, maintenance, etc etc? Perhaps it just wasn't profitable. Perhaps selling the land was a better choice for the owners.
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| August 14th, 2010 at 7:22:08 AM permalink | |
| ten2win Member since: Jul 27, 2010 Threads: 15 Posts: 120 |
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| August 14th, 2010 at 7:42:55 AM permalink | |
| ten2win Member since: Jul 27, 2010 Threads: 15 Posts: 120 |
That's a great concept!!! I apologize for the earlier post, this is my first attempt with using actual language symbols to post on a message board. I'm in clinical healthcare and really enjoy all this scientific/mathematical/business analysis of gaming. I've said it before: Anytime the casino offers a bet for less than the table minimum, ask yourself why. --DJTeddyBear |
| August 14th, 2010 at 7:52:39 AM permalink | |
| Wizard Administrator Member since: Oct 14, 2009 Threads: 256 Posts: 5769 |
You're absolutely right. There was no upside to tearing it down. As I recall, W&W was leasing the land from somebody else. The land owner wanted to get rid of W&W to lease or sell the property for another casino. There was a banner the last summer at W&W that said something like "See you in 2006." It was rumored they were going to move somewhere else in Vegas, but obviously that never happened. I think a great spot for a water park would be those fleabag motels across the Strip from the Mandalay Bay. It's not whether you win or lose; it's whether or not you had a good bet. |
| August 14th, 2010 at 8:18:09 AM permalink | |
| boymimbo Member since: Nov 12, 2009 Threads: 11 Posts: 2179 | What would make a Vegas Strip waterpark successful? First, the park itself has to exceed by an order of magnitude what the other facilities on the strip offer, and be superior with other waterparks in the country. That requirement would draw visitors away from the other hotels and make it a destination. The facility would have to be large and the quality fantastic. That means a very large wave pool, several major thrill rides, and several pools and slides for the smaller kids. It should also offer something unique not offered anywhere else. Second, it would have to be both kid and teen friendly as well. This would enable parents to drop their older kids off at the waterpark while they are off gambling for the day, and it would need to enable parents with young kids to stay with their kids at the park. Third, it should be open from about April to October to accommodate the start and finish of the warm seasons. If should also be open to about midnight so that parents can go out in the evening and come back to claim their kids at the end of the night. Of course there should be cabana rentals with TVs, minibars, sodas, bar service, etc. Perhaps the waterpark should be tied to a major chain such as MGM so that they could offer comps or discounts to the waterpark itself. Perhaps the simple cost of water in Vegas and its ordinances might prevent such a facility to open or make it so cost prohibitive to do so. As for a resident's waterpark, perhaps the city could build, finance, and operate something close to Red Rock. -----
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| August 14th, 2010 at 9:49:44 AM permalink | |
| Doc Member since: Feb 27, 2010 Threads: 17 Posts: 1989 | But isn't that where the Montecito Resort & Casino is located (on the defunct TV series). All except Ed's office of course -- that was somewhere close to the Fashion Mall, I think. |
| August 14th, 2010 at 10:01:32 AM permalink | |
| Wizard Administrator Member since: Oct 14, 2009 Threads: 256 Posts: 5769 |
I don't know. I watched only one episode of that show, and couldn't stand it. As I recall James Cann's office overlooked the Bellagio, which would put it pretty far from the Mandalay Bay. It's not whether you win or lose; it's whether or not you had a good bet. |
| August 14th, 2010 at 10:15:25 AM permalink | |
| Doc Member since: Feb 27, 2010 Threads: 17 Posts: 1989 | The computer-generated aerial shots showed the Montecito somewhere south of the Tropicana on the same side of the strip. The view out of Ed's office appeared to be looking diagonally across the strip at Harrah's, so I thought it must be either at Mirage or TI or maybe further up at the mall. I thought the show was a reasonably entertaining TV comedy, provided you didn't try to think about it representing the real Las Vegas. Maybe it was like using NYNY as the setting for a TV show about New York City. |
| August 14th, 2010 at 10:33:16 AM permalink | |
| EvenBob Member since: Jul 18, 2010 Threads: 199 Posts: 5027 | I loved that show, the women were beautiful. The only ep shot in Vegas was the pilot, at Mandalay Bay. The whole series wa taped in a sound stage in LA, with outdoor shots of Vegas thrown in. There are lots of dealers at MB who were there when they made the pilot. One girl I talked to said James Caan was really 'old' and he had on a ton of makeup. I think he was 63 at the time. I read an interview once with the guy who played Mike and he said the gorgeous women on the show didn't really get along, because each of them was used to being the best looking woman in any room they were in, so 4 of them together was nothing but cold shoulder competition. Women...... "Gambling doesn't build character, it reveals it." |
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