kubikulann
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June 29th, 2011 at 6:15:19 AM permalink
Hello,

Most roulette tables have a different minimum for inside and outside bets. For example, $1 and $5.
But betting $1 on two 6-Lines is equivalent to betting a dozen, isn't it? So the actual minimum for a 2-to-1 bet is $2, not $5.
(For even bets, it is $3)
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June 29th, 2011 at 6:19:29 AM permalink
Quote: kubikulann

Hello,

Most roulette tables have a different minimum for inside and outside bets. For example, $1 and $5.
But betting $1 on two 6-Lines is equivalent to betting a dozen, isn't it? So the actual minimum for a 2-to-1 bet is $2, not $5.
(For even bets, it is $3)

where is this $1 Roulette table?
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June 29th, 2011 at 6:26:12 AM permalink
I've never seen different minimum numbers.

What I see is that the inside bets, when combined, must meet the table minimum, while the outside bets must each be the minimum.

Therefore, if the table minimum is $5, all of your inside bets, whether straight-up or combination or whatever, must add up to $5 or more. Outside bets must each be at least $5.

The $1 you refer to is the betting unit. I.E. You can't bet 50¢ or even $2.50.

On the flip side, I've seen RapidRoulette where it had 25¢ betting units. But it had minimums of $2.50. Inside, I could bet 25¢ ten times, but outside, it had to be at least $2.50.


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But betting $1 on two 6-Lines is equivalent to betting a dozen, isn't it? So the actual minimum for a 2-to-1 bet is $2, not $5.

That still looks like $2 to me, so it's below the minimum.
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June 29th, 2011 at 6:54:05 AM permalink
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where is this $1 Roulette table?



Well, €1 actually.
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June 29th, 2011 at 6:58:40 AM permalink
Right. I have to bet on the whole an amount of $5 minimum.
But that specific bet can be done with $2.
For example, if I want to bet on an even AND on a dozen, I don't have to bet $5+$5 = 10. I can spend $3+$2, thus reaching the minimum of 5.
Right?
(Of course, it wont be "red", "odd" or a "column". But it can be "1-12" or "1-18".)
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June 29th, 2011 at 7:02:14 AM permalink
Wrong.

INSIDE bets can be combined to achieve the table minimum.

OUTSIDE bets must each be the minimum.
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June 29th, 2011 at 7:04:41 AM permalink
Quote: kubikulann

Most roulette tables have a different minimum for inside and outside bets.

No, most tables where I've played have the same amount as a minimum bet, its just that some bets can be worth less than that minimum as long as all your inside bets total to the minimum. So you can not add Inside Bets and Outside bets together to meet a minimum bet, but you can add separate Inside Bets together to make the table minimum.
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June 29th, 2011 at 7:05:30 AM permalink
Note that Red, Black, Odd, Even, 1-18, 19-36 pay 1:1. The three Dozens and three Columns pay 2:1.

They they are all outside bets. Every bet in any of these boxes must meet the table minimum.

All the rest of the stuff are inside bets. They must add up to the minimum.

Having an outside bet at the minimum does not allow you to bet below the inside minimum.
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June 29th, 2011 at 7:10:05 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

Wrong.

INSIDE bets can be combined to achieve the table minimum.

OUTSIDE bets must each be the minimum.



This IS what I tell.
Example: Bet 1 unit each on 6-Lines "1-6" "7-12" "19-24" "25-30" and "31-36" all INSIDE, combining to 5 units, is equivalent to betting 3 units on even bet "19-36" and 2 units on 2/3 bet "1-12".
While if I had wanted to do it OUTSIDE, I would have had to bet 5 units on each.
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June 29th, 2011 at 7:18:47 AM permalink
Quote: kubikulann

This IS what I tell.
Example: Bet 1 unit each on 6-Lines "1-6" "7-12" "19-24" "25-30" and "31-36" all INSIDE, combining to 5 units, is equivalent to betting 3 units on even bet "19-36" and 2 units on 2/3 bet "1-12".
While if I had wanted to do it OUTSIDE, I would have had to bet 5 units on each.




The "19-36" bet is an OUTSIDE bet. It has to be a bet of at least $5 (or whatever the minimum is).
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June 29th, 2011 at 7:31:46 AM permalink
Is it me being nonhuman, or are they all linguistically challenged?
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June 29th, 2011 at 7:40:53 AM permalink
If we all agree with each other and not with you, perhaps it's the former?:-P
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June 29th, 2011 at 8:23:02 AM permalink
Can you bet only the inside or only the outside or do you have to bet both?

And who says Roulette isn't confusing?
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June 29th, 2011 at 8:29:50 AM permalink
Quote: kp

Can you bet only the inside or only the outside or do you have to bet both?

And who says Roulette isn't confusing?



You do not have to bet both. Each outside bet must be at least the minimum ($5 in our example on the previous page). If you chose to play the inside also/instead, the sum of the inside bets must be >$5. Different casinos have different betting increments for the inside bets, but $1 is pretty common. So, you'd have to put at least five $1 chips in play on the inside bets.
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June 29th, 2011 at 9:08:26 AM permalink
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You do not have to bet both. Each outside bet must be at least the minimum ($5 in our example on the previous page). If you chose to play the inside also/instead, the sum of the inside bets must be >$5. Different casinos have different betting increments for the inside bets, but $1 is pretty common. So, you'd have to put at least five $1 chips in play on the inside bets.

Well, what you meant is correct. It is that the sum of the inside bets must be equal to or greater than the table minimum. (you used the symbol for greater than). So yes. If the table minimum is five dollars and a player chooses to make any inside bets then his inside bets must total atleast the table minimum. If he chooses to make an Outside bet (2:1 or 1:1) each and every one of his outside bets must be at least the table minimum which in our example is five dollars.

I rarely make Inside Bets except when its a two bet for my companion and the dealer, then its a straight up or split bet. Otherwise I'm an outside bettor even though I'm told that since they are all at 5.26percent I should go for the 35:1 payoffs since compared to other games, those payouts are cheap.
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June 29th, 2011 at 1:54:02 PM permalink
In Europe the posted minimums are slightly different.

$5 would be the amount that had to be placed on an outside bet.

$1 is the minimum bet on a inside number. You could just bet $1 on 1 number should you so desire. The bets do not have to add up to the posted outside total. minimum bet.
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July 28th, 2011 at 9:29:39 PM permalink
Quite simply yes; you could place $1 on the 1-6 six line and $1 on the 7-12 six line and you are essentially getting the same bet as $2 on the dozen. So yes, you can avoid the posted dozen minimum by placing the bets on the six lines as you describe. As you say you could also play the first three six lines with $1 each and it would be the same as $3 on low numbers, again a way to get around the outside chance minimum should you wish to do so.
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