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How can it happen?
| February 7th, 2011 at 8:03:09 PM permalink | |
| MikeChch Member since: Nov 8, 2010 Threads: 4 Posts: 11 | There is a player at the casino which I work that consistently wins on roulette, and by consistently I mean around 98% of the times he visits. He is one of the higher end players however prefers to play on the lower limit tables. His betting seems to follow that he will bet on the neighbors of the last winning number, both on straigh-ups and splits. He plays on multiple tables for up to 8 hours and a time. Management have tried all things to curb his wins, from ensuring the wheel speed is at a faster rate, ball speeds are varied, maximum wagers reduced and differing ball sizes. All wheels are scalloped to increase randomness when the ball drops. Nothing seems to work. Seriously, after a 4 day visit he will be winning in excess of $10k approx 95% of the time. He may have a loss one day but will always recuperate the loss in the other days he's here. Statistically there is no way that over a period of 6 years he should be consistently winning like he is. Is there anything else that anyone can recommend might help? |
| February 7th, 2011 at 8:08:31 PM permalink | |
| Toes14 Member since: May 6, 2010 Threads: 11 Posts: 350 | You have God visiting your casino? (He's throwing in the occasional loss to make himself look more natural.) "Oh Gravity, thou art a heartless bitch!" - Dr. Sheldon Lee Cooper |
| February 7th, 2011 at 8:12:39 PM permalink | |
| MikeChch Member since: Nov 8, 2010 Threads: 4 Posts: 11 | Haha...maybe. But seriously, this is becoming a major pain in the butt for management who are putting it on to us. Any suggestions??? |
| February 7th, 2011 at 8:14:49 PM permalink | |
| FleaStiff Member since: Oct 19, 2009 Threads: 75 Posts: 4827 | By multiple tables I assume you mean that he is not following a particular croupier. Does he attempt to shake hands with anyone? Does he sit in the same position with reference to the wheel each time? Does he have any confederates playing also? When you record a series of spins when he is NOT present, would his strategy prove profitable just as often as when he is present? Look at the wheel under a multi-spectral light, any streaks of any sort? |
| February 7th, 2011 at 8:17:37 PM permalink | |
| TheNightfly Member since: May 21, 2010 Threads: 22 Posts: 405 |
Stop sweating it and let him play any way he wants. Someone's got to get lucky once in a while and if management can't understand this simple fact then they have no idea how casinos work and should either take a statistics couse or get another job. On the other hand he could be from the future. Happiness is underrated |
| February 7th, 2011 at 8:20:56 PM permalink | |
| MikeChch Member since: Nov 8, 2010 Threads: 4 Posts: 11 | No, he doesn't follow any particular dealer, usually stands at the far end of the table away from the wheel and doesn't have anyone with him. No physical interaction is permitted with staff, so no shaking hands etc. He plays multiple tables at once, by placing bets on one, moving to another and doing the same. He does seem to like number 29. All wheels are rotated around the tables on a bi monthly basis. Haven't checked under special light source and haven't recorded spins when not there. Will get that sorted. |
| February 7th, 2011 at 8:23:34 PM permalink | |
| MikeChch Member since: Nov 8, 2010 Threads: 4 Posts: 11 |
Yeah, someone has to get lucky once in a while, but when it is consistently the same person and on a very consistent basis you have to wonder if there is something that isn't being done or if there is some other factor involved. being a smaller casino this is a major concern for the performance of the floor. |
| February 7th, 2011 at 8:36:26 PM permalink | |
| mkl654321 Member since: Aug 8, 2010 Threads: 65 Posts: 3412 | I don't know how to formularize it, but in just about every casino game, even one with a huge negative expectation like roulette, there will be, statistically and in practice, SOMEONE who consistently whups the game's butt. We had an LOL who played keno every day, forty, fifty games in a row, and she was definitely WAY ahead lifetime--she just hit those six-spots far more often than she "should" have. It happens. Anomalies happen. So if the management at your casino wants to drive away a good customer, they should bar this guy. And make themselves look pretty stupid in the process. If not, let him play; bring him free drinks and dancing girls. The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one. The happiness of credulity is a cheap and dangerous quality.---George Bernard Shaw |
| February 7th, 2011 at 9:17:24 PM permalink | |
| FleaStiff Member since: Oct 19, 2009 Threads: 75 Posts: 4827 | Does he attract a following? Other bettors mimicking his bets? If not, perhaps he is not such a winner as you think. |
| February 8th, 2011 at 5:54:29 AM permalink | |
| JIMMYFOCKER Member since: Jan 24, 2011 Threads: 12 Posts: 339 | Probably using a well concieved and semi-hidden 1-1-3-1 system, which provides winning sessions in excess of 85%. In the long, longterm however, it still makes the game unbeatable for the casino patron. Guessing the fella is raking you over the coals with comps, correct? |
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