Maverick05
Maverick05
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October 29th, 2016 at 8:28:40 AM permalink
Hi Wizard,

I'm currently playing in Alberta, Canada, where the dealer does not take a hole card. Instead, they take one card, deal the players their cards, and then take their cards at the end of everyone's turn. The rules are the following:

Blackjack pays 3:2
DAS allowed
Can re-split aces but one card only
6 decks
Doubling any card combination allowed
No surrender
Dealer hits soft 17

On your site I have used your basic strategy calculator and selected the No Peek/European rules and the above rules. However, I read that the European rules state that if the dealer gets a blackjack, I lose my original bet and my double or split bet. However, in the casino I play in, you only lose your original bet when doubling or splitting if the dealer gets a blackjack.

Does this change the basic strategy on your site? Which basic strategy should I go with, the no peek/no hole card or the peek in this case on your site?
charliepatrick
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October 31st, 2016 at 8:29:33 AM permalink
The critical factor is (suppose) you doubled 11 vs 10 and the dealer makes Blackjack does the house take the original bet or both bets. There are slightly more complicated rules concerning bust hands when splitting, but essentially it's the same question.

(A) If the house takes all the bets then this is essentially European and you should use that strategy (e.g. only Split A's vs 10, else don't split or double vs A or 10).

(B) If the house only takes the original bet when doubling then use the US strategy.

(C) If the house only takes one bet when splitting (assuming DDAS) then use the US strategy.

(D) If the house has some complicated rules when splitting (e.g. Australian rules) then check the exact rules and look it up on the wizard's site (as it's complicated!)


From your post you say "you only lose your original bet" i.e. (B) and (C) - if this is true then use US strategy.
shallnot
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ontariodealer
January 7th, 2017 at 2:21:01 PM permalink
Quote: Maverick05

I'm currently playing in Alberta, Canada



Best laugh I've had all day. This is like saying "I'm playing in Texas, USA".
777
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January 7th, 2017 at 3:00:34 PM permalink
Quote: shallnot

Best laugh I've had all day. This is like saying "I'm playing in Texas, USA".



This site has worldwide audience, so it is possible that many don't know Texas. And for international audiences, Paris and Italy are also in Texas.

Don't you think more people are aware of the racist, sexist, and rapist Trump than the state of Texas, USA?
Wizard
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January 7th, 2017 at 4:17:18 PM permalink
Quote: 777

Don't you think more people are aware of the racist, sexist, and rapist Trump than the state of Texas, USA?



Warning given for attempted thread hijacking.
It's not whether you win or lose; it's whether or not you had a good bet.
AxelWolf
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January 7th, 2017 at 5:02:37 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Warning given for attempted thread hijacking.

WARNNING? WOW, You are getting soft.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
Maverick05
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January 11th, 2017 at 5:14:20 PM permalink
I'm really glad I could make you laugh so hard. You'd be surprised at how many people are undereducated with regard to the provinces in Canada.

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