NaturalEight
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Francisco
October 10th, 2016 at 7:48:03 AM permalink
No it is completely all CSM. According to the pharoahs palace they offer a game with no house edge. I've never been and don't intend on going, but yes Macau is completely CSM.
WinningWays
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October 13th, 2016 at 6:01:29 PM permalink
Well if you open up the Wizard of Macau site then click on 'Casinos' and look at 'Macau Hotel and Casino Reviews' you'll find that if you open up the links to Venetian and Wynn casinos, the charts there clearly state that CSM's are not used for their bj shoe games. The minimum table limits on the different tables are HKD 10,25,50 100 and 200. The reviews of the table games are quite recent.... Nov. 12th 2015.
tomchina123
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January 29th, 2017 at 8:31:51 AM permalink
that is a good thread. i wanted to ask this for a long time.

firstly of all, 100% all csm.

500HKD is the minimum in wynn and MGM, some small casinos, may, 100,200, 300.

i will cover more rules for pros to make finer answer on house edge.
tomchina123
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January 29th, 2017 at 8:49:00 AM permalink
CSM, ENHC, DA2, DAS, split to 4 hands(including A, as in wynn and mgm, other casinos ,no. but i want answers only on this rule.). one card only to split A, early surrender to 9, 10, no surrender to A, dealer only takes original bet when blackjack. Follow strategy by wizard 100%. surrender: 16Vs 9,10, 14,15V10, 88VS10, 77vs10, stands at 16 of 3 cards VS 10(this strategy can be missed if too hard to simulate),

i tried to do it by many ways, one is by the software:
http://www.theblackjacksimulator.com/
by this, it cannot do the rule of: dealer only takes original bet when blackjack.
i ran 1.5 bill hands to have 0.26%, then above rule is worth 0.11%. so the result is 0.15%.

another way to do it: http://www.bjstrat.net/cgi-bin/cdca.cgi (thanks for this site, l learned EOR is different under different rules.)
the site is recommended by wizard in this link: http://wizardofodds.com/games/blackjack/appendix/7/
it only cannto do the rule of : dealer only takes original bet when blackjack.
the result is 0.2020%, then above rule is worth 0.11%. so the result is 0.0920%.

if no answers from experts, i will take that Eliot understands all rules. and use his version:

The edge of -0.167% I reported to you assumes NRSA.

With RSA I get -0.098%.
teliot
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January 29th, 2017 at 9:54:56 AM permalink
Quote: tomchina123

if no answers from experts...

What rule do you allege I am misinterpreting?
tomchina123
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February 1st, 2017 at 6:31:01 AM permalink
Quote: teliot

What rule do you allege I am misinterpreting?




dealer only takes original bet when blackjack.
also if all follow the basic strategy according to Maocau rules.

so everything is right?

you see, in China, there is a big community playing bj. if i give u your result, i will say it is from famous Eliot.
teliot
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February 1st, 2017 at 6:49:45 AM permalink
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so everything is right?

I don't know. Maybe not. Who knows?

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