100% Win Rate For Baccarat??

Hi, I'm from Asia and recently paid good money to learn from a guru who claims to have 2 strategies for Baccarat. I've previously never stepped into a Casino before but was lured by the promises of good Baccarat income. The first strategy offered a 99.61% win-rate. Upon learning the course, it's a 8 bets progressive betting system, with the sum total of 400 units. Instructions were to leave after earning 60 units each day.

Initially, the money seems good, then more and more of us (including myself) experienced the heavy losses of 400 units. It was then that simple me decided to do my own research. After readingI felt enlightened by it and foolish to have fell for something so simple previously.

Nonetheless, the guru claims to have another higher strategy which has a 100%. 100% would mean ZERO tolerance for a loss. I felt this is absurd but have since been shaken to reconsider it. A friend of mine who works for the an Asian Casino surveillance mentioned that they once took note of this lady (let's call her Miss Impossible) who made 26 corrects bets of 50 units consecutively. She did not bet on every game but each time she bet, she won. The chances of this happening according to my calculations is 1 in 67108864.

Another time, my friend whose words I can trust told me he saw a person betting seemingly random amounts on different games and won every round. He started with around 30 units and walked away with 110 units within an hour.

Today, I saw Miss Impossible in person, she seems always on high alert looking around or rather watching out, for what, I know not. She moved from table to table, and each time she made a bet, what she bet on turned out to either natural 8 or natural 9. I followed her for about half an hour and she seemed to have noticed my observing her and left quickly.

Is there any method, mathematical or whatever to tell if a Natural 8 or 9 is coming??
This is the only method possibly (if it even exists) to have a 100% win rate.

Thanks for viewing and sharing

So was the course you attended worth it or is it just a scam? Really 99.61% winning rate?

So if I was posting 100% win rate why would I ever leave the casino or teach anyone else?

The ONLY way to make money with a Baccarat betting system is to find someone stupid enough to buy lessons from you.

If the system actually worked, it would be so much more profitable for them to simply play Baccarat with it than to sell lessons about it.

Let's see--you got scammed, lost your money, figured out that you had been scammed, figured out the reasons why--and now, you are contemplating getting scammed again????????

Baccarat can't be beaten. Miss Impossible is impossible. That's why you called her (correctly) Miss Impossible.

Abandon all thoughts of beating baccarat, and spend your time doing something less unproductive.

Does Miss Impossible play VP in Laughlin?

This post is quite old and the OP seem to have left the forums a while ago but I will try to explain anyway in case someone wonders. The casino surveillance sees players every day, once in a while they are due to see someone get very lucky. This doesn't mean this person is consistently lucky. Getting from 30 units to 110 units can happen more than 25% of the time, if you look around you will always see lucky people doing it since there are thousands of players in a casino and you focus your attention on the few that get lucky. I once went from HK$500 to HK$10,000 in a few hours. This doesn't mean I can do it consistently; in fact I lost most of that money in a few minutes following my lucky streak!

Game can be considered +EV if one takes comps into consideration.

Quote: JIMMYFOCKER

Game can be considered +EV if one takes comps into consideration.

Good call. It is probably easier to comp hustle at baccarat nowadays that blackjack. High-limit baccarat players can be very demanding. They can get dead-chip rebates which often overcome the house edge, and massive RFB "soft" comps as well.

Quote: teddys

Good call. It is probably easier to comp hustle at baccarat nowadays that blackjack. High-limit baccarat players can be very demanding. They can get dead-chip rebates which often overcome the house edge, and massive RFB "soft" comps as well.

Dead-chip rebates?

Explain

Hi Jaslinica,

i am going to join a similar course. i got a feeling you are talking about the same baccarat course. May i know which country are you based in? can we have a discussion to see if we are talking about the same course and see what can be done about it?we can save our fees by making a wise decision. please advice. please drop me a mail to vickysindhu1905@gmail.com. thank you.

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we can save our fees by making a wise decision.

Yeah, you can decide to stop wasting your time and effort trying to find some Guru of Baccarat when no such person exists. Its only the gullible believing the hype of the con men.

Does anybody want to buy my magic beans? If you plant them they grow into money trees. If you eat one a day you will never get sick or die.

I will buy them if they also give me a 100% win rate for baccarat!

Since chimbu and Jaslinica each have made only one single post in their membership, I must assume that the purpose of this artificial discussion is to try and get vulnerable people to contact vickysindhu1905@gmail.com. If anyone is considering e-mailing this person, keep in mind it is almost certainly a scam.

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Hi, I'm from Asia and recently paid good money to learn from a guru who claims to have 2 strategies for Baccarat. I've previously never stepped into a Casino before but was lured by the promises of good Baccarat income. The first strategy offered a 99.61% win-rate. Upon learning the course, it's a 8 bets progressive betting system, with the sum total of 400 units. Instructions were to leave after earning 60 units each day.

Initially, the money seems good, then more and more of us (including myself) experienced the heavy losses of 400 units. It was then that simple me decided to do my own research. After reading http://www.wizardofodds.com/gambling/bettingsystems.html I felt enlightened by it and foolish to have fell for something so simple previously.

Nonetheless, the guru claims to have another higher strategy which has a 100%. 100% would mean ZERO tolerance for a loss. I felt this is absurd but have since been shaken to reconsider it. A friend of mine who works for the an Asian Casino surveillance mentioned that they once took note of this lady (let's call her Miss Impossible) who made 26 corrects bets of 50 units consecutively. She did not bet on every game but each time she bet, she won. The chances of this happening according to my calculations is 1 in 67108864.

Another time, my friend whose words I can trust told me he saw a person betting seemingly random amounts on different games and won every round. He started with around 30 units and walked away with 110 units within an hour.

Today, I saw Miss Impossible in person, she seems always on high alert looking around or rather watching out, for what, I know not. She moved from table to table, and each time she made a bet, what she bet on turned out to either natural 8 or natural 9. I followed her for about half an hour and she seemed to have noticed my observing her and left quickly.

Is there any method, mathematical or whatever to tell if a Natural 8 or 9 is coming??
This is the only method possibly (if it even exists) to have a 100% win rate.

Thanks for viewing and sharing

Quote: chimbu

Hi Jaslinica,

i am going to join a similar course. i got a feeling you are talking about the same baccarat course. May i know which country are you based in? can we have a discussion to see if we are talking about the same course and see what can be done about it?we can save our fees by making a wise decision. please advice. please drop me a mail to vickysindhu1905@gmail.com. thank you.

Yes, clearly these two posts are collusion ... supposedly for some baccarat technique in Macau casinos.
Given a choice between a 96 percent win and a 100 percent win, I'd choose 100 percent... the trouble is: neither rate is really available or the casinos would already be broke and these "baccarat gurus" would not be selling their system, they would be playing baccarat in the high stakes room.

Macau's regular tables go up to HK$1,500,000 in limit and the tables in their VIP rooms go even higher. There are many loan sharks hanging near the casinos so if one of these gurus had a valid system that could consistently return at least 1% a day (much less than the return they claim to achieve) he could invest US$30 today and would own a yacht and a Gulfstream four years from now with nearly no risk of bankruptcy. Instead he is selling his teachings for a few hundreds of dollars. Meanwhile investment bankers with Ivy league MBAs are getting paid tens of millions to achieve half that return in a week. If it seems to good to be true, it probably is.

Quote: HKrandom

Macau's regular tables go up to HK$1,500,000 in limit and the tables in their VIP rooms go even higher.

I don't think it matters how many people denigrate the comments, they just want to get the e-mail out there.

From what I read in the brochures, Macau puts a limit on the differential on a table (difference between banker and player bets). It seems strange to me, since it would require some cooperation among the players. Can you confirm this?

Quote: pacomartin

I don't think it matters how many people denigrate the comments, they just want to get the e-mail out there.

From what I read in the brochures, Macau puts a limit on the differential on a table (difference between banker and player bets). It seems strange to me, since it would require some cooperation among the players. Can you confirm this?

The HK$1,500,000 limit I mentioned is actually the differential, you can bet more as long as someone is willing to cover the difference with the opposite bet. As long as the table's total win doesn't exceed this amount you can bet as you wish. I saw it in a junket area of the Sands casino (open to the public, not a private room) and if I recall properly the minimum bet on that table was HK$80,000. The differential in normal tables is normally HK$200,000-HK$300,000 and the differential in the high limit area is HK$300,000-HK$500,000 depending on the table. I am sure Sands and other casinos have tables with higher limits since they have many areas restricted to people cashing in a certain amount of money.

Macau's regular tables go up to HK$1,500,000 in limit and the tables in their VIP rooms go even higher. There are many loan sharks hanging near the casinos so if one of these gurus had a valid system that could consistently return at least 1% a day (much less than the return they claim to achieve) he could invest US$30 today and would own a yacht and a Gulfstream four years from now with nearly no risk of bankruptcy. Instead he is selling his teachings for a few hundreds of dollars. Meanwhile investment bankers with Ivy league MBAs are getting paid tens of millions to achieve half that return in a week. If it seems to good to be true, it probably is.

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and that son of a gun just copy and paste. i flagged him

Interested. Yes. Where do I buy these beans! Are thy coffee beans?? Yum.

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Baccarat betting strategy for comps for you and a buddy:


Go to a large casino where you are not known and do not have a players' card. Try to pick a casino that is considered generous in giving comps.

You and your buddy then sit at opposite ends of a baccarat table.

You and your buddy each bet $100 on every hand. He bets player and you bet banker on every single hand. Or better than that, as a cover, the person placing his bet last bets opposite of the person betting first.

You quit after one hour.

If the dealer deals 80 hands in that hour the two of you together will have lost right around $208.

Split your losses so you and your buddy each have lost right about $104. You both lost but you both played without risking a much larger loss.

Then ask the PB for comps.

If he gives you each a one night stay and one dinner then you each will actually get 2 nights since you can probably get a hotel room with 2 beds.

The value of the comps, at least the retail value, will have exceeded your losses by a lot.

If it works, repeat and reboot in another casino.

Whether it works will depend on the generosity of the casino towards comps.

Hopefully a previous poster is correct in saying that casinos are generous with baccarat comps.




While I'm on the subject of baccarat; the few times that I've played it I've noticed that some dealers forget to charge commission on the banker's winning hand from time to time. Has anybody else noticed the same thing?