Which job is more physical?

Quote: jml24

Poker players are some of the cheapest people in the casino but generally everyone will tip at least $1/pot. If those grumpy old nits can cough it up I think you can too.

I must be playing at different places...Almost every hand gets $1 and occasionally $5. It's also pretty rare to see a poker player not tip a waitress.

Quote: MakingBook

If you tip a "good" dealer, aren't you also tipping the "jerk" dealer an equal share? I'm assuming they share tips (at least that's what I'm told).

Varies by locale. In Vegas the tips are pooled, in some other places dealers carry around their own tip box and get to keep them.

Quote: RaleighCraps

I'm not trying to start a war, but should a dealer role expect the same type of tip frequency as a cocktail waitress?
How about total tips received for a shift?

I haven't been a cocktail waitress, but I have lately done some banquet service and know how hard it is to serve people that way (chopped mandatory tope there, nice.) Also have trained in casino-level craps; and dealt craps, blackjack, and roulette (once) for thje party nights. So here is my take.

The cocktail waitress does a lot of walking/borderline running. The dealers stand in place. To me standing in place is harder, to others walking is a pain. That is a purely subjective argument. What is not debatable is that being a dealer is far less natural egronomically and far more prone to repetitive motion pain and injury. OTOH the cocktail waitress is more "on her own" in dealing with customers where a dealer has security and a whole pit supervisory crew to help in disputes. I think that it is mostly a matter of personal preference and unless you find a waitress-turned-dealer either side will defend their own.

Mentally the waitress is a memory job, simple as that. In some states line NV she may not even have to collect as drinks are comped. She probably doesn't make the drinks and has a procedure to follow same as dealers in the form of how to order and track-pattern to cover all areas.

The dice dealer has it hardest. They have procedures but some leeway in how to make a payout yet are expected to do it fast and efficient. They have 95 bets to know, they must be able to deal either base or stick. BJ, Roulette, and carnival games are about 1/3 as hard. Doubt that? Dice training is at least twice as long as anything else.

That all being said, they should be tipped equivalent. Dealers take say $5-10 per hour and tip at once or over time. I get a red broken to whites and play a hand "for the boys" as I feel like it. No pattern, but I do keep some for when I am the shooter. BJ just when I feel like it. For a waitress, I just tip $1-2 per drink when I order. I rarely drink even free drinks while playing, however. I prefer to keep my head clear.

And sorry, HB, "I can't afford to tip" is no excuse. I do agree there is a limit and tipping the cable guy and room engineer is crazy. But dealers and waitresses are to be tipped. Can't tip? Play slots.

Quote: AZDuffman

The cocktail waitress does a lot of walking/borderline running.

And don't forget they are required to work in heels.

Quote: HotBlonde

And don't forget they are required to work in heels.

And skimpy outfits in air-conditioned buildings.

Quote: HotBlonde

And don't forget they are required to work in heels.

True, but I only give part sympathy. The discomfort I see so many women willingly go thru for shoes is amazing.

Quote: AZDuffman

True, but I only give part sympathy. The discomfort I see so many women willingly go thru for shoes is amazing.

Yes but most of those women you're refering to do it cuz they want to not cuz it's a requirement and they'll lose their jobs if they don't.

Quote: HotBlonde

Yes but most of those women you're refering to do it cuz they want to not cuz it's a requirement and they'll lose their jobs if they don't.

I'd still Bet at least half the waitresses wear uncomfortable shoes on their off time. I mean even the old nun who taught me in sixth grade freely admitted she was a sucker for fancy shoes.

Dealers in Las Vegas make $7.25/hr if they are offered benefits, $8.25 if they are not. HB you cant even spare $5 at the end of your session? I say at least give something unless the dealer is not creating a fun game. If they do not say thank you for the tip I suggest complaining to the shift manager. Tipping the dealers is just the way the industry is set up, but it does seem to balance out between stiffs like you (HB) and generous players.