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January 31st, 2012 at 6:04:10 PM permalink
Wizard
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Quote: Johnzimbo
Wiz, when they guess wrong do you show them the serial # so they know you aren't scamming them? If not, they may feel that you are a lowlife who doesn't tip


Yes, I always show them. Often they look at it suspiciously, as if I'm luring them into some kind of trick.

Quote: zippyboy
Why are you even ordering a beer at all if you know you have no dollars in your pocket? Why don't you just go to the bill changer first if you're so ill-prepared? And how is it that you repeatedly have no dollar bills with you?


Take is easy. This exclusively happens at video poker machines. I don't like to break my stride and abandon my machine to look for a change machine, which may or may not have a line.

To everyone who said that cocktail waitress always carry around plenty of money to make change, seldom do they offer to do so. I would say that 20% of the time they do offer to make change instead, which I happily go along with, and tip $2. However, most of the time they go along with my proposition and tender a guess.
It's not whether you win or lose; it's whether or not you had a good bet.
January 31st, 2012 at 6:05:42 PM permalink
shupe03a4
Member since: Jan 12, 2012
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I think your offer is more than fair.
I have started arguments with my friends who have worked as servers, I never have. My opinion is that an employee should EXPECT his/her employer to pay the wages. Not the customer you are serving.
If you take a job in a service position and expect tips, then don't you also have an expectation built in that a few or more people who might not tip??

Wiz, That is why i think you were being generous, I work hard to earn my money and if somebody offered me 1 in 10 shot to get $20 for 30 seconds of effort(while doing your job), I would be thanking you.

MinnJoe- the tip money for taxes is withheld and adjusted later, right?? not an average?
January 31st, 2012 at 6:23:58 PM permalink
EvenBob
Member since: Jul 18, 2010
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Quote: Wizard
To everyone who said that cocktail waitress always carry around plenty of money to make change, seldom do they offer to do so. .


Old old waitress trick. Most of the time if they
say they can't make change, they get the
whole bill as a tip. Sometimes they don't. Its
also time consuming to make change. A
waitress is only there to make tips. Not to
deliver drinks, not to make small talk, all
she thinks about is the bottom line. Its a
shitty job.
One casino owner to another: "It would be so much easier if we could just hit them over the head, steal their money, and throw their bodies in the creek." Al Swearengen, Deadwood
January 31st, 2012 at 6:41:41 PM permalink
Johnzimbo
Member since: Sep 29, 2010
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Quote: Wizard
Yes, I always show them. Often they look at it suspiciously, as if I'm luring them into some kind of trick.

Ahh, so THIS is the famous $20 trick I keep hearing about

Also, back in the pre-TITO days I would often take 5 quarters and place them in the neighboring video poker machine when the waitress delivered my drink and tell her "your tip is you get to play this hand and keep any winnings". One time on joker poker it dealt a full house and she got $8.75
January 31st, 2012 at 7:59:26 PM permalink
teddys
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I would just stiff them if I don't have a dollar. So what? They often don't even give you a dirty look; they just walk away. It is part of the job. But most of the time, I tip.

The last time I played with the Wizard and we played the $1/$5 trivia game, I could tell one of the waitresses was pissed when she only got $1. In the spirit of the game, I joined in, but it is not something I would do on my own. I felt bad about it.

I've often given large bills to waitresses to break for me. I think I even gave one a $100 once. In retrospect, this may have been naive of me.

Quote:
Also, back in the pre-TITO days I would often take 5 quarters and place them in the neighboring video poker machine when the waitress delivered my drink and tell her "your tip is you get to play this hand and keep any winnings". One time on joker poker it dealt a full house and she got $8.75
I like that!
"If you can make one heap of all your winnings / And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss / And lose, and start again at your beginnings / And never breathe a word about your loss..." -Rudyard Kipling
February 1st, 2012 at 4:53:05 AM permalink
odiousgambit
Member since: Nov 9, 2009
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I think she would expect you to be generous, as you are asking her to play a game. You could tell her to get $19 in change, or take a guess to get the whole $20. That way your average tip should go down to $1.50, so you benefit, but she can still get a tip.
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February 1st, 2012 at 6:41:25 AM permalink
boymimbo
Member since: Nov 12, 2009
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If the waitress takes the bet, then it's a fair bet. Naturally, the waitress will give you a dirty look as she really wants that tip and thinks that her feminine charm will make you part with the money anyway.

The way she sees it, you're willing to part with $20. Your bet is arbitrary. You could have easily made the bet: "guess ANY number in the serial number", to which her odds of winning are much higher. You could have said "if you get it wrong, I'll give you the $20". When $20 is presented, that's the potential win and gives her great hope -- she expects somewhere between $0.25 and a $1 from most patrons, maybe a $2 generous tip if she isn't in the high roller room or isn't standing next to someone who just won a jackpot.

So, naturally, when she doesn't get the potential win, she's (rightfully) disappointed. It's a fair bet. But the dirty look and the ensuing guilt that you may be feeling (since you posted about it) might make you present a $10 bill next time and say: "guess any number" or a different $20 with the get "come within one of the serial number" or entice you to go to the change machine and make up for the last loss by giving her double the tip ($4) next time.

So, go to a change machine, get some $1s, and because you are a gamer, offer her $1 and offer her another $1 for a trivia question.
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February 1st, 2012 at 3:29:24 PM permalink
Ayecarumba
Member since: Nov 17, 2009
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Accepting the bet means taking a risk on getting nothing. You should not feel bad about that. How often do you get counter offers on the terms? I suspect most CW's do not spend much time working out their game theory (aside from not displaying change in hope of getting a big bill).

However, I think it unwise to tick off those who control the cleanliness of my food.
February 1st, 2012 at 3:32:15 PM permalink
buzzpaff
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Take that $20 bill and but 10 $2 scratch tickets.
Buzz Paff
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