WoV McNugget Challenge #5 (split-off)
Quote: WizardLet's consider that inked then.
After that bet my lines have moved to:
Yes +300
No -500
Of course, it is a free market. Feel free to bet with each other.
There's so many lines floating around, I'm not sure what they even are... I think Mike is the only one with the Over (+150)/Under (-200) at 74.5, and on full completion YES (+300)/NO (-500). Are these correct and current?Quote: WizardOkay, I'll set a real line:
Over 74.5 +150
Under 74.5 -200
My window is actually open.
...Yeah about this. I'll be taking action if PG agrees NOT to eat American Nuggets until the challenge. We do things differently here in 'Murica.Quote: RSYou're a Canadian?
MIKE, WHAT'S THE MAX I CAN LAY ON THE NO?
Quote: PokerGrinderI will probably go with 60 to start and then about halfway through those get the other 40 made.
Basically what I was thinking. I wasn't suggesting buying one (10 or 20, however they come) at a time.
Yes, I don't doubt you've tasted American nuggets, but you've never attempted to eat 100 of them. I'm simply asking if you would be willing to state that you will not attempt to eat 50 or more American nuggets prior to the challenge. If you want to give it a "dry run" prior with American on your own, that's fine (I'll be a spectator but won't take action), but to me it's a bit like peaking at the answer key during a test... You feel as though you can do it now, enough that you're booked for the event and taking bets... So if I were to bet I wouldn't want you to go test yourself and then perhaps modify bets/drop out/etc. Or even if you didn't do that, I just wouldn't want you to know the answer before us... Let's all find out at the same time =).Quote: PokerGrinderLmao I have had 'Murican "nuggets" many times. I spend half my year in the states.
Quote: RomesI think Mike is the only one with the Over (+150)/Under (-200) at 74.5, and on full completion YES (+300)/NO (-500). Are these correct and current?
Yes. I've got three bets pending confirmation but those lines are good as of this moment. Please PM me if you'd like action.
Quote: RSCan I just free-roll a nice chicken McNugget meal?
You could spend eleventy brazillion dollars and still not get "a nice McNugget meal".
Axel taking a larger cut than normal? Money tight? ...I'll get you your chick McNugget meal bud...Quote: RSCan I just free-roll a nice chicken McNugget meal?
What David has told me, and others confirmed, is that the time limit is really not an issue. If the time limit is an hour, I would bet (not really...) that poker grinder will not eat 5 nuggets after the half hour mark.
Of course, if that was his goal, he could easily do so, by not eating many in the first half hour. Assuming he makes a good faith effort, I would bet a quatloo or two....
Quote: RomesYes, I don't doubt you've tasted American nuggets, but you've never attempted to eat 100 of them. I'm simply asking if you would be willing to state that you will not attempt to eat 50 or more American nuggets prior to the challenge. If you want to give it a "dry run" prior with American on your own, that's fine (I'll be a spectator but won't take action), but to me it's a bit like peaking at the answer key during a test... You feel as though you can do it now, enough that you're booked for the event and taking bets... So if I were to bet I wouldn't want you to go test yourself and then perhaps modify bets/drop out/etc. Or even if you didn't do that, I just wouldn't want you to know the answer before us... Let's all find out at the same time =).
Scouts honour: I promise no McNuggets will touch my mouth until the challenge starts!
Quote: PokerGrinderScouts honour: I promise no McNuggets will touch my mouth until the challenge starts!
I'm not willing to have you making any additional promises or accepting additional conditions. You should be under the same conditions or lack thereof as anybody else. If you want to train on eating somehow or do anything else, you should be free to do so, and Romes and everybody else has no right to change the rules of the game after bets have been placed.
Seriously. I'm betting on you unhampered by bs added later.
Then ACTION we have! =DQuote: PokerGrinderScouts honour: I promise no McNuggets will touch my mouth until the challenge starts!
Quote: RomesThen ACTION we have! =D
Romes,
Honestly, this is crap, for you to impose additional conditions after money is in action. Apparently he wasn't planning on doing it anyway, but I'm calling you on this, and anybody else who tries to change the bet from its past form into something else.
I'll PM you for record keeping but yes $100 on the over.Quote: WizardIt was a phony line. Frankly, I think it is in bad gambling etiquette to suggest a bet and not follow through. However, he was evidently just saying what he thought a fair line should be.
I'll take $100 of that action. Can we consider it confirmed?
I've got at least three sets of negotiations going. From now on, please PM your bet requests to me. I reserve the right to move my lines after a bet is booked.
Can you give SP a timeout for that?
Quote: AxelWolfI'll PM you for record keeping but yes $100 on the over.
To confirm, my side is under 76 for $100 a even money. Exactly 76 I think should be a push.
I now have $300 on this, all on the under, which I think is enough. My window is closed for the moment. However, I'm always open to an offer I can't refuse.
Quote:Can you give SP a timeout for that?
I don't think it rises to that. However, I do sentence him to 40 lashes with a wet noodle for proposing a bet and then not following through when others accepted it.
Quote: beachbumbabsRomes,
Honestly, this is crap, for you to impose additional conditions after money is in action. Apparently he wasn't planning on doing it anyway, but I'm calling you on this, and anybody else who tries to change the bet from its past form into something else.
It's not "changing" the bet. PokerGrinder can do whatever he wants.
Prior to the date and time of the challenge his consumption of nuggets, whether they be American or not, or lack thereof, is not part of the bet in any way.
Can we just bean him with any leftover nuggets ?Quote: WizardTo confirm, my side is under 76 for $100 a even money. Exactly 76 I think should be a push.
I now have $300 on this, all on the under, which I think is enough. My window is closed for the moment. However, I'm always open to an offer I can't refuse.
I don't think it rises to that. However, I do sentence him to 40 lashes with a wet noodle for proposing a bet and then not following through when others accepted it.
Quote: AcesAndEightsIt's not "changing" the bet. PokerGrinder can do whatever he wants.
Prior to the date and time of the challenge his consumption of nuggets, whether they be American or not, or lack thereof, is not part of the bet in any way.
A&8,
I agree with you. He can do whatever he wants.
Quote: AcesAndEightsIt's not "changing" the bet. PokerGrinder can do whatever he wants.
Agreed. I think in the spirit of avoiding insider information, if he does any more trial runs, that he share the information with everybody or nobody. Those betting should have access to the same information.
Quote: WizardQuote: WizardOkay, I'll set a real line:
Over 74.5 +150
Under 74.5 -200
My window is actually open.
My line on the No is -500, just to warn you. That said, are you betting $500 to win $100, or $100 to win $20? Same question on the under 74.5, are you betting $200 to win $100 or $100 to win $50? Please confirm
Funny you should ask. I just heard he had some kind of medical episode. He doesn't have health insurance, so we're not sure what it is, but it seems obesity related and he has sworn off future eating challenges.
$100 to win $20 and $100 to win $50.
I am sorry to hear about your cousin in law. I am glad that he is on the road to recovery.
PG - How about a "Tale of the Tape"? How tall are you? Do you know your body mass index? What is the most of anything you have ever eaten in one sitting?
Quote: Ayecarumba
PG - How about a "Tale of the Tape"? How tall are you? Do you know your body mass index? What is the most of anything you have ever eaten in one sitting?
Roughly 6 feet and about 260 pounds. I am a big guy but about 30 pounds of that is weight that I put on while recovering from back surgery last October. I do not know my BMI but I assume it is high lol. Most of anything? I won a hot dog eating contest when I was 9 or 10, I ate like 9 I think with buns. More recent a buddy and I went to Via Brasil Steakhouse which I suggest to anyone as it is the best Brazilian steakhouse in Vegas. He decided to challenge me to see how much we could put down, he is 6 "5" 260 and can eat a ton. We ended up in a draw but we absolutely crushed them that night. I am not sure how to quantify what I ate but let's just say that it was enough to get other tables looking at us. The waiter couldn't believe that we were still asking for more food. The $45 was not wasted in any way shape or form.
As far as the nuggets let's just say I am worrying about the grease factor not the volume of "chicken", note the quotations around chicken. I think I have a plan for the grease though.
Quote: PokerGrinderQuote: djatcI'm confused myself. I did want to offer you dibs on the bet since you put the line up. If you don't want action I'll book it with PG. Pokergrinder if you want to bet $100 to win my $200 that you can eat over 74.5 mcnuggets you got a deal. I don't know if I've met you before or not but can someone vouch for you? I'm weary about making bets with forum members since the SA incident.
PS If I win I'm getting one of these
I have not met you before, I've only been on the forum for about a year. If you are ok with it I will hand the Wizard $100 before starting the challenge so that you are covered. I have never not paid up a bet though. Does this work for you? I have over 74.5?
OK that sounds like a bet. I'll have the Wizard hold my 200 when I see him or have someone meet him before the bet.
Quote: djatcQuote: PokerGrinderQuote: djatcI'm confused myself. I did want to offer you dibs on the bet since you put the line up. If you don't want action I'll book it with PG. Pokergrinder if you want to bet $100 to win my $200 that you can eat over 74.5 mcnuggets you got a deal. I don't know if I've met you before or not but can someone vouch for you? I'm weary about making bets with forum members since the SA incident.
PS If I win I'm getting one of these
I have not met you before, I've only been on the forum for about a year. If you are ok with it I will hand the Wizard $100 before starting the challenge so that you are covered. I have never not paid up a bet though. Does this work for you? I have over 74.5?
OK that sounds like a bet. I'll have the Wizard hold my 200 when I see him or have someone meet him before the bet.
Sounds like a plan. Good doing business with you. Now all I have to do is shove 75 nuggets down my throat lol.
This whole thing is silliness personified.
No I will not bet, nor will I post Pierce
puking into the trash bin.
Quote: WizardAgreed. I think in the spirit of avoiding insider information, if he does any more trial runs, that he share the information with everybody or nobody. Those betting should have access to the same information.
In the spirit of the bet I agree however once you said this...."I'm trying to set an example and show how the market works."
I feel that we should have a full educational experience.
Perhaps we need some example of how all sports betting works. insider information, payoffs, extortion, match fixing. ☺
Quote: AxelWolfIn the spirit of the bet I agree however once you said this...."I'm trying to set an example and show how the market works."
I feel that we should have a full educational experience.
Perhaps we need some example of how all sports betting works. insider information, payoffs, extortion, match fixing. ☺
There's no match fixing ;-)
Quote: EvenBobPokerGrinder. You. Will. Lose.
This whole thing is silliness personified.
No I will not bet, nor will I post Pierce
puking into the trash bin.
EB did AOS piss in your Cheerios again?
Quote: PokerGrinderMore recent a buddy and I went to Via Brasil Steakhouse which I suggest to anyone as it is the best Brazilian steakhouse in Vegas....
Sounds like we're in for a good show.
Quote: PokerGrinderRoughly 6 feet and about 260 pounds. I am a big guy but about 30 pounds of that is weight that I put on while recovering from back surgery last October. I do not know my BMI but I assume it is high lol. Most of anything? I won a hot dog eating contest when I was 9 or 10, I ate like 9 I think with buns. More recent a buddy and I went to Via Brasil Steakhouse which I suggest to anyone as it is the best Brazilian steakhouse in Vegas. He decided to challenge me to see how much we could put down, he is 6 "5" 260 and can eat a ton. We ended up in a draw but we absolutely crushed them that night. I am not sure how to quantify what I ate but let's just say that it was enough to get other tables looking at us. The waiter couldn't believe that we were still asking for more food. The $45 was not wasted in any way shape or form.
As far as the nuggets let's just say I am worrying about the grease factor not the volume of "chicken", note the quotations around chicken. I think I have a plan for the grease though.
I am seriously worried about my money now. 9 hot dogs as a pre- teen? It does not appear that capacity is going to be an issue. Has the date and time been set?
I said in my postQuote: beachbumbabsRomes,
Honestly, this is crap, for you to impose additional conditions after money is in action. Apparently he wasn't planning on doing it anyway, but I'm calling you on this, and anybody else who tries to change the bet from its past form into something else.
I have no problem with him doing it. For my money I just wanted to know he'd find out the answer the same time as the rest of us. He clearly can do as he likes and I'll show up either way... Though he did state "scouts honor" that he wouldn't dry run it for the crowd. For what it's worth, I feel it's my right to ask questions/etc when it comes to putting my own money on the line, and that I shouldn't be restricted in doing so when it comes to my money.Quote: Romes...If you want to give it a "dry run" prior with American on your own, that's fine (I'll be a spectator but won't take action)...
If PG doesn't do it, I promise I will do it this year. I pounded 50 nuggets from wendy's (yes I know the grease/butter factor) but I could easily have done 100 of those.Quote: DRichI really want Mission to try again. He is the one I think may be able to do it from this forum.
Exactly. This was my point.Quote: WizardAgreed. I think in the spirit of avoiding insider information, if he does any more trial runs, that he share the information with everybody or nobody. Those betting should have access to the same information.
Agreed!Quote: WizardSounds like we're in for a good show.
Have any of the lines moved with any of the action?
Quote: RomesIf PG doesn't do it, I promise I will do it this year. I pounded 50 nuggets from wendy's (yes I know the grease/butter factor) but I could easily have done 100 of those.
I've got $200 right now saying you can't. I will give you until the end of the year to do it if you agree to the bet now.
Nah, if PG can do it then I'll await the next food challenge the Wiz comes up with to conquer. Plus, I figure I could get all the action I need later down the road =p. Your bet would really be a +EV bet considering you'd win if I didn't compete this year even. You can't AP an AP!Quote: DRichI've got $200 right now saying you can't. I will give you until the end of the year to do it if you agree to the bet now.
Quote: AyecarumbaI am seriously worried about my money now. 9 hot dogs as a pre- teen? It does not appear that capacity is going to be an issue. Has the date and time been set?
In all seriousness the amount of food doesn't worry me, the grease is what I am worried about but I have an idea to negate that problem.
We are doing it Monday April 18th at noon
Quote: RomesI said in my post
I have no problem with him doing it. For my money I just wanted to know he'd find out the answer the same time as the rest of us. He clearly can do as he likes and I'll show up either way... Though he did state "scouts honor" that he wouldn't dry run it for the crowd. For what it's worth, I feel it's my right to ask questions/etc when it comes to putting my own money on the line, and that I shouldn't be restricted in doing so when it comes to my money.Quote: Romes...If you want to give it a "dry run" prior with American on your own, that's fine (I'll be a spectator but won't take action)...
Fair enough. :)
Thanks for the vote of confidence!
If nobody does it by the time I get out to Vegas again, (don't know when that will be) I might give it another go. Stomach-wise I was just fine, I just stopped breathing, maybe I'll take a Benadryl a few hours beforehand, or something.
I mean, I ate again and drank a copious amount of beer, what, maybe an hour or two later?
Just a couple comments:
1 - I'm thrilled to see that in this group of seasoned gamblers, there are plenty of people besides myself that get confused by sports betting odds notations.
2 - The over / under is 74.5? In sports, a half point makes sense since it removes the possibility of no winning bet. But what if PG eats 74 and a half?
3 - It was my understanding that over / under betting lines generally have a very close to zero odds.
4 - I have no intention to make a bet until I get a look at the horse. And probably not then either. But I'll definitely be in attendance, cheering at the finish line.
5 - The Wiz mentioned perhaps going to the Container Park after the challenge. I have the Container Park on my schedule for Sunday events, but I don't mind changing my itinerary. In fact, except for Neon Museum at 3:30, my entire Sunday schedule is tentative and will be open for discussion and modification on Saturday.
Quote: DJTeddyBearThe over / under is 74.5? In sports, a half point makes sense since it removes the possibility of no winning bet. But what if PG eats 74 and a half?
How do you measure a partial McNugget - especially a partially-eaten partial McNugget? ("It's 74.4!" "No, it's 74.6!")
I for one think that there is no halfway with McNuggets - either you eat the whole nugget or it doesn't count at all.
I tried searching online to see how Major League Eating defines a partially-eaten item, but I can't find any "official rules" anywhere.
If its that close I'm certain whoever has the over would hold him down and start cramming. Meanwhile the under guys will be shouting "JUST PUKE, JUST PUKE!"Quote: ThatDonGuyHow do you measure a partial McNugget - especially a partially-eaten partial McNugget? ("It's 74.4!" "No, it's 74.6!")
I for one think that there is no halfway with McNuggets - either you eat the whole nugget or it doesn't count at all.
I tried searching online to see how Major League Eating defines a partially-eaten item, but I can't find any "official rules" anywhere.
Long post, and you guys are busting my chops about an off-the-cuff tongue-in-cheek comment!
Quote: DJTeddyBearOh, sure.
Long post, and you guys are busting my chops about an off-the-cuff tongue-in-cheek comment!
Honestly though DJ, did you expect anything less? :)
Quote: ThatDonGuyHow do you measure a partial McNugget - especially a partially-eaten partial McNugget? ("It's 74.4!" "No, it's 74.6!")
I for one think that there is no halfway with McNuggets - either you eat the whole nugget or it doesn't count at all.
I tried searching online to see how Major League Eating defines a partially-eaten item, but I can't find any "official rules" anywhere.
I am 100% sure that one of the winners at the nathans hot dog contest won by a half. I can't remember if it was sonja winning by a half but I think it may have been. It might have even been 3/4.
You're right. I don't know what I was thinking. 😜Quote: PokerGrinderHonestly though DJ, did you expect anything less? :)
Quote: GWAEI am 100% sure that one of the winners at the nathans hot dog contest won by a half. I can't remember if it was sonja winning by a half but I think it may have been. It might have even been 3/4.
There are "half hot dogs", but I think "1/2 of a hot dog" is defined as "eating the meat but not the bun, or vice versa."
Also, the "official" world record for BBQ Beef Brisket Sandwiches is 34 3/4, so there must be some defined way of doing it.
The Nathan's Contest Wikipedia page shows 1/4 and 3/4 dogs in the winners' tallies. There is even a 1/8 in there. Don't know if that's legit, though. It's the only one rounded to an eighth.
Regardless, for this contest, I would agree with PG:
Quote: PokerGrinderI would assume to be counted the whole nugget must be gone. So no half nuggets would be possible.
