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July 31st, 2010 at 7:07:41 AM permalink
DorothyGale
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Quote: odiousgambit
That is an excellent rate! Assuming you aren't paying 3 points at closing to get it.


3.875 and 0 points ... it's free money ... in fact, as I pointed out above, it is cash-flow positive to take the loan with brain-dead investing.

I think there is a question here for the "Ask the Wizard" column, just not sure what it is.

--Dorothy
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August 3rd, 2010 at 5:20:17 PM permalink
weaselman
Member since: Jul 11, 2010
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Quote: DorothyGale
These are the basics. The complication arises because of amortization. The numbers below are not static over the life of the loan.

If I take that $400k loan, then I am paying $2950 each month to the bank.

Out of the $2950, $1625 goes to principle, which is an equity line item, leaving $1325 in interest.

Out of the $1325 in interest, which is tax deductible (I am in the 33% bracket), I get $442 back in taxes. That leaves a payment of $883.

Now, I have that $400k to invest as a result of taking the mortgage. Say I get 3% tax free in state municipal bonds. That's an annual income of $12000 from the $400k, or about $1000 per month in income.

I now MAKE $117 per month in profit by taking the loan.

The key point is how much I can make in tax free municipal bonds. At 2% I am losing, at 3% I am winning. I buy shares of FCTFX which has paid over 3.5% for as long as I remember.

FCTFX CHART

Now, if I pay off the loan, then that same $400k is with the bank and I don't get any benefits from investing it, or tax breaks, or equity increase.

--Dorothy


Here is a different angle:
Suppose, you pay off the mortgage, and continue investing the same $2950 monthly at 3%. After twelve months, you will have $35890.83.
On the other hand, keep the mortgage, earn $117 a month + $1625 in equity, adds up to $20904 in a year.
Seems like about $15k/year advantage to paying off (assuming tax free investment, but taking taxes into account makes it even more favorable - you'll only have $490.83 in income in the first scenario vs. 12K in the second one).
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