Star Trek Casino Episode

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My favorite holodeck episode was the one where Data has been playing the role of Sherlock Holmes. He gets bored with how easy it is to solve the cases and asks the computer to create a villain and situation that are suitably challenging. The computer complies, creating an adversary challenging not to Holmes but to Data. The impact spreads well beyond the confines of the holodeck and creates a crisis for the ship. I found the end solution quite amusing. No idea at all of the episode name or number.

Season 2, because it has Dr. Pulaski in it. The title is "Elementary, Dear Data." (Not that much of a Trekkie no, but www.epguides.com is a handy website to know).

As I recall the change in adversary was Geordi's idea. He was miffed that Data knew all the Holmes stories, so he solved the crime at the start of the holodeck novel, rather than play along.

Doc, I hope you were able to see the one where he came back to life 4 years later and they make it so he thinks he's alive and off the holodeck- well I'm not going to give it away if you haven't seen it.

I was always hoping Dr. Pulaski would fall down an empty turbolift shaft, a la L.A. Law

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Doc, I hope you were able to see the one where he came back to life 4 years later and they make it so he thinks he's alive and off the holodeck- well I'm not going to give it away if you haven't seen it.

Well, if it's not obvious, I'm not a serious Trekkie. The finale that you allude to seems similar to the one I remember -- the one I said amused me. Perhaps I saw the second episode rather than the first one, or perhaps I saw both episodes and have them confused. My fuzzy recollection is that the episode ended with the captain having a small black box to save as a memento, with holodeck experiences playing out inside. It was a game-inside-a-game thing. The last character on screen tried to have the computer "end" the reality, just in case it was another holodeck experience, and he had lost track of the levels. Does that sound about right?

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My fuzzy recollection is that the episode ended with the captain having a small black box to save as a memento, with holodeck experiences playing out inside.

That's the second ep, "Ship in a Bottle." In the first Moriarty gains sentience accidentally, holds people hostage, figures out where he is, etc etc. In the end they just wind up saving the Moriarty character.

BTW did anyoen think it odd that there was a casino in DS9, owned by Quark, but every episode either set in a casino or involving casino action was played out in the holodeck? In the latter seasons they had a Vegas program running. Earlier Bashir played a 007-type program, and he gets to break the bank playing Baccarat (and some technobabble about transporter malfunctions [Trek's other lethal technology] and the minds or bodies of the senior officers being trapped in the holodeck).

In honor of the non-soccer fans on the board, I am watching this episode of TNG right now. I haven't seen it in so long, and it definitely is enjoyable for gamblers. Lots of funny BJ and Craps references. And of course all the typical mistakes you see...Good to see Lt. Comm. Data is the universe's best dice setter.

Edit: C'mon Data! They are playing blackjack, and the lady has 13, dealer showing a 10, and Data says "The odds favor standing pat." Boooo!

The part I like best about the casino episode was Data being able to alter the dice in his hand to continuously roll 7s. Wouldn't that be a nice ability to have? (Although, if he had really known much about craps. he would have adjusted the dice to roll hard 4s or 10s. That way he could have bet the pass line with odds and the hardways and made the money they needed to break the bank a whole lot faster than just rolling 7s continuously. Plus, it wasn't quite realistic in that on the last bet they bet everything, when most casinos would have a maximum bet to keep that from happening. Actually, I would imagine that most casinos would close down a table that became that hot to check the dice.)

Friday I saw an old Futurama ep with a small casino scene. Bender, the robot, sets the dice and throws a 1-1, which loses him his bet for some reason. Then he says "My cheating unit malfunctioned. I want a do-over."

The dealer replies "Sorry, sir. The limit is two do-overs."

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The part I like best about the casino episode was Data being able to alter the dice in his hand to continuously roll 7s. Wouldn't that be a nice ability to have? (Although, if he had really known much about craps. he would have adjusted the dice to roll hard 4s or 10s. That way he could have bet the pass line with odds and the hardways and made the money they needed to break the bank a whole lot faster than just rolling 7s continuously. Plus, it wasn't quite realistic in that on the last bet they bet everything, when most casinos would have a maximum bet to keep that from happening. Actually, I would imagine that most casinos would close down a table that became that hot to check the dice.)

Why not just roll 12's or 2's and bet the 30-1 shot?

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Why not just roll 12's or 2's and bet the 30-1 shot?

I'm going to say that because they were promotional chips given for free at check-in, they were only allowed to play them on the Pass line and other even money bets. Still, it only took them 17 rolls to go from $100 to $13 million.

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Pretty good episode where Data/Riker/Worf get stuck in a world of a 1960's Vegas casino (I don't know the time frame for sure). They have to play out a fictional book and "break the bank" of the casino in order to buy it out. The entire episode is kind of ridiculous on many fronts, especially with Data recommending a "stay" with a player 13 and a dealer showing a face card. I've been a star trek fan for over a decade and never saw this episode before, I'd highly recommend it.

Oh....God. "The Royale". That episode that teeters on the brink of "Dumb but fun" and manages to fall straight into "Just plain dumb."

Now, the Vic Fontaine bits in DS9...I was a fan. :-)