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August 24th, 2012 at 6:57:37 AM permalink
Lots of forum members will be in town for the Global Gaming Expo. To remind you, it is Oct 2-4 at the Sands Convention Center. Last year we did a dinner but three people only showed up (DJ, miplet, and me). So, what about a lunch before the expo one of the days? I'm thinking somewhere at the Venetian/Palazzo.

The question for the poll is which day suits you best, but feel free to chime in about anything regarding social activities during the show.
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August 24th, 2012 at 7:08:46 AM permalink
I'll abstain from the vote primarily because I have no preference of day, although would suggest dinner.

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...lunch before the expo...


Um, the expo hours are 10-5 Tue & Wed, 10-3 Thur. Are you planning on showing up late, or did you mean breakfast?

Last year Miplet and I were staying at IP, so we met each morning at about 9:20 and had a quick bite at McDs between Harrah's and Casino Royale, then walked to Venitian / Sands.

There was talk last year about a late lunch / early dinner on Thursday. I was against it because I was flying out Thursday evening. Miplet flew out at the same time.

I'm staying thru Saturday this year, so I'm more open to whatever everyone else wants.


However, I still say dinner.
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August 24th, 2012 at 7:40:00 AM permalink
Tuesday or Wednesday are equally good for me.
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August 24th, 2012 at 7:41:48 AM permalink
I didn't realize the expo opened so early this year. However, I'd still like to keep it lunch. I'm thinking we could take a break from the show, or just show up late. For those just cruising the floor, one to 1.5 days is all you need. Dinner is fine with me too. However, again, we got a low turnout last year. I'm not sure whether it was competing with business dinners, bad traffic after the show, or post-show exhaustion.
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August 24th, 2012 at 7:43:04 AM permalink
I arrive at 2:25pm on Monday and my plane departs 7:40pm on Thursday. Other than that, I have no preference.
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August 24th, 2012 at 7:54:40 AM permalink
Personally, I think we should rule out Thursday. It seems to me a lot of people don't attend that day.
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August 24th, 2012 at 7:58:01 AM permalink
Take a break from the show?

Hmmm, when I think about it, after three days, I had had enough last year. As I recall, Miplet and I cut out a little early on day 3.

So, yeah, lunch at the Venetian one day sounds good.

Just as long as it's not in the employee cafeteria. LOL
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August 27th, 2012 at 3:01:02 PM permalink
I suppose most of you will also get the following invite. I got this email today and signed up. The signup procedure was simple N&A, no field for the number of people in the group, so maybe everyone who didn't get invited can be with those of us that did.

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And I therefore would suggest we cross Tuesday off the list of options for the WoV lunch.
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August 27th, 2012 at 3:22:42 PM permalink
I would prefer to not leave the show for a lunch offsite and then have to come back. Or are you thinking a lunch somewhere onsite like the Lux Cafe at Venetian (I think they also have one at Palazzo). I would be up for lunch if I didn't have to get in to the car to get there.

Another thought is "drinks" after the show one day at the Venetian/Palazzo (Wiz can you do that as an employee of LVS?). Getting out of parking garage is a bear anyway after 4:30PM, although many watering holes may be busy with convention traffic. Stopping for a quick pop before dinner may open up a lot of folks calendars, particularly if they have a dinner or reception engagement later that night. Whoever wants to stay and get dinner together could leave from there.

I think Wednesday may be the best day regardless of what is chosen.
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August 27th, 2012 at 3:45:34 PM permalink
Lunch is difficult for me during the show ... my preference would be Thursday straight after the show or, Wednesday evening if it doesn't clash with any of the G2E events.
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August 27th, 2012 at 3:52:05 PM permalink
' Leading Table Games Professional "

Congratulations Teddy, does this mean you are now a made man in the Evil Empire? Was Roger your sponsor ?

I remember what happened to Donnie Brasco's sponsor. LOL
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August 27th, 2012 at 5:25:41 PM permalink
I like the idea of doing something directly after the show and on property. As was mentioned, traffic tends to be terrible right when the show gets out. What about I Love Burgers at the Palazzo? Maybe just drinks at first, for those who have a more important dinner to get to, and then eating at 7:00 or whatever for those who have nothing better to do. I also tend to think Wednesday is the best day.

Yes, employees can eat and drink on property. In fact, they are encouraged to, so if asked a question they know the place better. I may be able to get an employee discount.
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August 27th, 2012 at 5:45:38 PM permalink
I will try and be there. No promises, but need to recover from my nightmare in Baltimore first.
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August 27th, 2012 at 5:56:41 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I Love Burgers



$17 for a bacon burger? Are you buying?
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August 27th, 2012 at 5:57:10 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

... What about I Love Burgers at the Palazzo? Maybe just drinks at first, for those who have a more important dinner to get to, and then eating at 7:00 or whatever for those who have nothing better to do. I also tend to think Wednesday is the best day.



That would work with me and probably Mr.CasinoGames as well.
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August 27th, 2012 at 6:02:57 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

$17 for a bacon burger? Are you buying?



If you read the menu carefully, it's really a bacon cheeseburger. So quite a good value.
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August 27th, 2012 at 6:15:59 PM permalink
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If you read the menu carefully, it's really a bacon cheeseburger. So quite a good value.



LOL! Sure it is..
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August 27th, 2012 at 6:58:12 PM permalink
I wish I could be out there, I would do lunch there. I just checked out the menu on-line, and that Black Bean burger sounds heavenly..."Red pepper sauce, carmalized onions, alfalfa sprouts..."

Delicious!

I'm not a Vegan, though, so I'd ask for a slice of provolone on all of that.
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August 27th, 2012 at 7:54:03 PM permalink
Quote: buzzpaff

' Leading Table Games Professional "

Congratulations Teddy, does this mean you are now a made man in the Evil Empire? Was Roger your sponsor ?

I remember what happened to Donnie Brasco's sponsor. LOL

Yeah, I laughed at that too.

I'd love to know what mailing list they bought, and how I got on there, but I ain't complaining!

And since that reception is Tuesday afternoon, I'll repeat that I'd prefer the WoV event not be Tuesday.
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August 27th, 2012 at 8:09:35 PM permalink
Quote: Switch

Quote: Wizard

... What about I Love Burgers at the Palazzo? Maybe just drinks at first, for those who have a more important dinner to get to, and then eating at 7:00 or whatever for those who have nothing better to do. I also tend to think Wednesday is the best day.



That would work with me and probably Mr.CasinoGames as well.


Yes, I am OK with that.
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August 27th, 2012 at 8:17:53 PM permalink
I am in for drinks at least on Wednesday around 5PM. May stay to eat as well.
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August 27th, 2012 at 8:38:17 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

Quote: EvenBob

$17 for a bacon burger? Are you buying?



If you read the menu carefully, it's really a bacon cheeseburger. So quite a good value.




No a real value was Little Tavern burgers. "Buy 'em by the bag"

Sadly, the last one closed in 2008.
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August 27th, 2012 at 10:47:16 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

$17 for a bacon burger?



Have you been taking lessons from my father on money management?
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August 27th, 2012 at 10:50:13 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard



Have you been taking lessons from my father on money management?



Its the principle of the thing. John D. Rockefeller
was the richest man in the world, and when he
travelled with his family he scrutinized every item
on a restaurant bill and checked it against the menu.
Getting screwed isn't fun, even when you can afford
it.
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August 28th, 2012 at 4:51:38 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

$17 for a bacon burger? Are you buying?

I meant to comment on this.


When you think "Bacon Burger", you often think of an ordinary beef patty, topped with some cheese and a slice or two of bacon.

This seems different:
Quote: menu

The Burgers
We proudly serve Certified Angus Beef...

The Standard
Ground Angus, lettuce, beefsteak tomato, red onion, brioche bun - $10

i (heart) bacon
A blend of ground sirloin and applewood-smoked bacon, crispy bacon, bacon mayo, smoked gouda, onion strings, brioche bun - $17


When compared to the standard burger, the $17 price on the bacon burger doesn't sound so bad.

I'm not sure which burger I'll get (I'm not a fan of mayo or gouda) but I'm in.
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August 28th, 2012 at 6:58:24 AM permalink
I'm getting the Oregon Trail (buffalo) burger.
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August 28th, 2012 at 10:08:35 AM permalink
The succulent Salmon salad...
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August 28th, 2012 at 10:38:12 AM permalink
Bacon. Yummy and delicious bacon.
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August 28th, 2012 at 1:26:08 PM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear



i (heart) bacon
A blend of ground sirloin and applewood-smoked bacon, crispy bacon, bacon mayo, smoked gouda, onion strings, brioche bun - $17
When compared to the standard burger, the $17 price on the bacon burger doesn't sound so bad.



They throw in a few great sounding extra words
and you're hooked, huh. 'Applewood smoked, crispy,
smoked, brioche' and they got you where they want you,
forking over $17 for a burger it cost them less than
$2 to make.

Here's how it would read if it cost $4: Ground beef,
bacon, mayo, gouda and onion on a bun. Looks and
tastes the same only your not paying $13 extra because
they know a few creative words.

P.S. Ground sirloin makes an awful burger, way too
dry because of not enough fat content. Always use
regular burger or ground chuck, nothing lower in
fat content like ground round or sirloin.
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August 28th, 2012 at 3:01:47 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

P.S. Ground sirloin makes an awful burger, way too
dry because of not enough fat content. Always use
regular burger or ground chuck, nothing lower in
fat content like ground round or sirloin.



My guess is the fat content of the burger goes way up because the raw bacon is gound in with the sirloin.....or am I not reading the menu description correctly?
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August 28th, 2012 at 3:11:41 PM permalink
Quote: Paradigm

My guess is the fat content of the burger goes way up because the raw bacon is gound in with the sirloin.....or am I not reading the menu description correctly?



Fat content of the burger itself is whats important,
its where all the flavor is. I knew a guy in the 80's
who owned a small joint called Juicy Burger that
had been doing well since the 50's. The big 'fat scare'
in the 80's made him swith to a leaned ground
beef and he almost went out of business. Lean
beef makes a tasteless buger and just in time
he switched back and saved himself. Ground sirloin
tastes like cardboard.
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August 28th, 2012 at 3:50:59 PM permalink
I guess tele-conferencing is out of the question ?? SIGH
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August 28th, 2012 at 6:37:14 PM permalink
Fat tastes good? Yeah, we learned that from the McLean Burger bomb.
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August 28th, 2012 at 6:46:49 PM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

Fat tastes good? .



Most assuredly. Most of the flavor from beef
come from the fat. "The amount of fat in meat
influences its flavor."
The more fat, the more flavor.
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August 28th, 2012 at 10:33:11 PM permalink
Depends on the cooking method, with slow and low cooking styles, fatty cuts aren't as good a leaner cuts. The Argentinians cook their steaks

Yeah, you need some fat, but as the link suggests, the Mallaird reactions, which brown the proteins in meat are as important for flavourful, meaty steak. Too much fat, and you lose something in the taste. That's why a nice marbled steak is a wonderful thing to cook quick over a high heat, but a lean cut needs more time too develop.

Lean burgers are just not as good (Fat Burger here advertises a very lean burger... it's the worse in town), as that fat mixed in needs to work its magic in the cooking process and get through the protein. But a low-and-slow chilli is better with leaner ground beef (in my opinion), as fattier meats gets a horrible slick on top of the dish.
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August 28th, 2012 at 10:51:12 PM permalink
Quote: thecesspit

But a low-and-slow chilli is better with leaner ground beef (in my opinion), as fattier meats gets a horrible slick on top of the dish.



Lean ground beef has its place, just not as a burger.
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September 3rd, 2012 at 1:49:21 PM permalink
I intend to be there for the lunch. Whether I get a ticket to G2E is another matter entirely. Got a few irons in the fire, but nothing definite yet.

When will the decision be made on which day to have the event. Probably gonna be a one night stand for me.
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September 3rd, 2012 at 2:19:00 PM permalink
I know that not everybody is going to agree with this, but considering everyone's opinion I'd like to suggest that the official WoV event be drinks and eats at I Love Burgers at the Palazzo on Wednesday. The show ends at 5:00 that day. Let's try to leave a little early to claim a big spot at the restaurant. I'd like to suggest we arrive to the restuarant by 5:00, have some drinks until about 6:00, and then order food.

Of course, feel free to make your own smaller meetings with each other by PM.

I would also like to suggest that Shufflemaster judges get that over with before COB Wednesday, so we can compare notes.
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September 3rd, 2012 at 2:44:19 PM permalink
Good plan Wiz....count me in for drinks at a minimum
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September 3rd, 2012 at 4:15:28 PM permalink
Sounds like a good plan, you can count me in as well as Mr.CasinoGames I should think.

I hope I'm allowed to vote on the Shuffle Master games - not sure what my fav. will be :-)
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September 3rd, 2012 at 4:28:03 PM permalink
Count me in.

Quote: Wizard

I would also like to suggest that Shufflemaster judges get that over with before COB Wednesday, so we can compare notes.

"COB" ?
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September 3rd, 2012 at 4:37:59 PM permalink
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Count me in.

"COB" ?



Close of business ...
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September 4th, 2012 at 5:12:20 AM permalink
Quote: buzzpaff

I intend to be there for the lunch. Whether I get a ticket to G2E is another matter entirely. Got a few irons in the fire, but nothing definite yet.

When will the decision be made on which day to have the event. Probably gonna be a one night stand for me.

Now that you have your free pass, are you planning on attending for more than one day?

FYI: Imperial Palace, walking distance from the Sands Convention Center, currently has standard rates for those nights in the $30 range. The rate I got as a Total Rewards member was in the $18 range.
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September 4th, 2012 at 6:40:37 AM permalink
Sorry for going off topic a bit, but NicksGamingStuff and I have been planning to partake in the feats of strength with a one-mile running race. Not necessarily during G2E, since we both live here, but if anybody else is interested in a physical competition, we can open it up to anybody.
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September 4th, 2012 at 9:04:54 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Sorry for going off topic a bit, but NicksGamingStuff and I have been planning to partake in the feats of strength with a one-mile running race. Not necessarily during G2E, since we both live here, but if anybody else is interested in a physical competition, we can open it up to anybody.




Can I get some recent photos of both you guys? We might try to set up some Forum action on this one. I also needs Stats, Height, Weight, Age, Length of your Legs...if you know off-hand. A list of any previous sports-related injuries also wouldn't hurt, oh and whether or not either of you ran Track or Cross in HS or College...that'd be helpful.
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September 4th, 2012 at 9:06:31 AM permalink
Quote: Mission146

Can I get some recent photos of both you guys? We might try to set up some Forum action on this one. I also needs Stats, Height, Weight, Age, Length of your Legs...if you know off-hand. A list of any previous sports-related injuries also wouldn't hurt, oh and whether or not either of you ran Track or Cross in HS or College...that'd be helpful.



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September 4th, 2012 at 9:06:45 AM permalink
Quote: Switch

Sounds like a good plan, you can count me in as well as Mr.CasinoGames I should think.

I hope I'm allowed to vote on the Shuffle Master games - not sure what my fav. will be :-)




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September 4th, 2012 at 9:15:46 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

Now that you have your free pass, are you planning on attending for more than one day?

FYI: Imperial Palace, walking distance from the Sands Convention Center, currently has standard rates for those nights in the $30 range. The rate I got as a Total Rewards member was in the $18 range.




Strictly a one night stand. Already 2 weeks behind as full time student due to my Baltimore nightmare.
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September 4th, 2012 at 9:27:09 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

All you're going to get is old man vs. young buck.



It's widely known that you like to hike. I also Googled your name AND "Track," but it turns out that there is a horse whose name is your last name, so that didn't help out even remotely.

Maybe Nick'sGamingStuff can give us some info on himself. That woud help. We've seen enough pictures of you to know you're in good shape, but one-mile is short enough of a distance that this is going to be more about speed than endurance. You're 47 years old, I believe, and being 28 I already know that I don't have the limited speed that I once had...

I'm still hesitant to lay against you, though, we don't know anything about The Kid. He might weigh 300lbs, but then again, he might be an All-State track star as of four years ago.
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September 4th, 2012 at 9:34:24 AM permalink
If this meetup is open to everyone I may try and stop by and say hello. I have worked with the Wizard in the past, and Pacman once or twice a long time ago but I don't believe that I know anyone else that posts on here.

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