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AZDuffman
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May 25th, 2016 at 6:53:17 AM permalink
Quote: terapined

LOL
Religious fanatics insisting that scientists need to consider a make believe being residing in the sky or unknown dimension.
How about scientology and Xenu, the intergalactic warlord that dropped beings onto the planet Earth from a spaceship millions of years ago.
No less valid then intelligent design
Yup, scientists need to look into xenu
Why stop at intelligent design or Xenu.
Shouldn't scientists look into the thousands of religions out there and examine all the crack pot theories about some figment of their imagination creating Man.
Hey, scientists need to look into the greek gods, maybe they started mankind
Just as valid as Xenu or intelligent design by an imaginary being

Save it for the church. Does not belong in the classroom.



Funny. For all the mind building you said your degree gave you this shows none of it.

I have heard more than one science person credit "Mother Nature" for many things. Maybe you could at least consider such a position instead of letting your hate for religion blind you so.
Tolerance is the virtue of believing in nothing
AZDuffman
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May 25th, 2016 at 6:55:36 AM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

There are 2 different reasons to go to college, that of course overlap quite a bit. There is the "It is so that I can get a job" reason, but there is also the "It will help me grow as a person" reason. When I was applying for colleges, I was definitely in the first camp. I knew I would have a better chance to get into Med School from a 'better' college, hence I went to Columbia. My oldest son was in the second camp. He had no idea what he wanted to do for a career, and he was very well rounded, hence he went to the 'best' college that was strong in both the arts and sciences (Carnegie Mellon). He found his calling (Entomology) early on in college, but then took as many extra classes (Philosophy, eg.) as he could. His senior year he took way more credits than he needed to to graduate, maturely stating that he will never have this opportunity again. My younger son wanted to be a journalist. So he went to the best Journalism school he could get into (Missouri). It could have been looked at as a 'trade' school. Interestingly, he didn't like journalism, switched to Computer Programming, and got a job in his field directly from college.

I agree with AD that there are many kids who should not go to college that do. But I'll agree more with MB and ME that the value to the majority who go to college can't be simply measured in dollars and cents.



CMU is unusual in that regard. Their computer department produced all kinds of things but the drama department gave us Lenny and Squiggy
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MichaelBluejay
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May 25th, 2016 at 7:20:11 AM permalink
Quote: RonC

There are a lot of complete idiots out there with great education credentials (not necessarily great educations) who write a whole lot of bullshit extremely well.

I'd rather someone have a decent position that they can defend even if they misuse a word or punctuation every once in a while.

Yeah, and when they can't spell their way out of a wet paper bag *and* their positions are preposterous... (two things which usually go hand in hand)
Rigondeaux
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May 25th, 2016 at 12:12:59 PM permalink
Anti-elitist skepticism has merit. Naseem Taleb is a good advocate for it at the moment and articulates it well. A lot of folksy wisdom, religion, whatever is a way of handicapping our own ignorance and limitations.

Considering global warming, one might keep in mind that every generation has had prophets of doom and they've all been wrong.

But you become a fool when you use these mechanisms as a path to just believing whatever makes you feel good, and to ignore all inconvenient evidence and expertise. Global warming isn't predicated on an invisible being punishing us for not sacrificing enough goats, but upon observable changes to the world, which differentiates it from past prophesies of doom.

Just because a concept like evolution is difficult to grasp and you don't like it, doesn't mean it is illegitimate.

But I'm a terrible speller, so what do I know?
Boz
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May 25th, 2016 at 12:49:02 PM permalink
Was wearing my "Make America Great Again" hat to Lowes today to buy some yard supplies. Received multiple compliments from customers and employees (male and female) and was asked where I purchased it. May not be a scientific sampling but to me these are everyday Americans, and are willing to admit they like Trump.

Or Lowes workers and shoppers are just uneducated racists. Time will tell.
ams288
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May 25th, 2016 at 12:56:15 PM permalink
Quote: Boz

Was wearing my "Make America Great Again" hat to Lowes today to buy some yard supplies. Received multiple compliments from customers and employees (male and female) and was asked where I purchased it. May not be a scientific sampling but to me these are everyday Americans, and are willing to admit they like Trump.

Or Lowes workers and shoppers are just uneducated racists. Time will tell.



1.) Everyday Americans who are willing to admit they like Trump
2.) Uneducated racists

These are not mutually exclusive. They could be both.
"Trumped up trickle down" has an entire new meaning now, thanks to those Russian prostitutes...
Rigondeaux
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May 25th, 2016 at 12:59:34 PM permalink
Ruh Roh.

The report, which you can read in its entirety here, badly complicates Clinton's past explanations about the server and whether she complied fully with the laws in place governing electronic communication. And it virtually ensures that Clinton's email practices will be front and center in Donald Trump's fusillade of attacks against her credibility and honesty between now and Nov. 8.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/05/25/hillary-clintons-email-problems-just-got-much-worse/?tid=a_inl
rxwine
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May 25th, 2016 at 1:06:16 PM permalink
It got enough signatures, but there is a notice at the bottom of why they declined to comment further.

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/arrest-and-prosecute-donald-j-trump-incitement-violence-legal-precedent-brandenburg-v-ohio
It's so overt, it's covert.
ams288
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May 25th, 2016 at 1:07:23 PM permalink
Quote: Rigondeaux

Ruh Roh.

The report, which you can read in its entirety here, badly complicates Clinton's past explanations about the server and whether she complied fully with the laws in place governing electronic communication. And it virtually ensures that Clinton's email practices will be front and center in Donald Trump's fusillade of attacks against her credibility and honesty between now and Nov. 8.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/05/25/hillary-clintons-email-problems-just-got-much-worse/?tid=a_inl



If Clinton gets indicted by the FBI - that's a ruh roh.

Everything else is just noise. This changes nothing in the minds of Hillary haters or Hillary supporters.
"Trumped up trickle down" has an entire new meaning now, thanks to those Russian prostitutes...
rxwine
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May 25th, 2016 at 1:12:58 PM permalink
Quote: ams288

If Clinton gets indicted by the FBI - that's a ruh roh.

Everything else is just noise. This changes nothing in the minds of Hillary haters or Hillary supporters.



Seems to me, even if Hillary was out, Bernie, who is more popular (and populist) would likely take her delegates.

Since I don't actually believe Bernie could get his most leftist ideas to pass, I'm not opposed to voting for him if he were the one left standing. I also think he's a realist when push comes to shove. so not that concerned that he is too out there. Win win.
It's so overt, it's covert.

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