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What a day, the media is made to look like
the fools they are.
Trump Report Takes ‘Fake News’ To a New Level
"There is literally no evidence on offer in these memos or from BuzzFeed that any single sentence in these documents is factual or true. What’s more, we know most major news organizations in America had seen them and despite their well-known institutional antipathy toward Trump, had chosen not to publish them or even make reference to them after efforts to substantiate their charges had failed." http://nypost.com/2017/01/10/buzzfeeds-trump-report-takes-fake-news-to-a-new-level/
FWIW, when I think "numerate leftist", none other holds that slot than MichaelBluejay. My classification of you comes below...
What I see when viewing these threads is folks spewing what is a simplistic view of an already simplified stance, which has become so due to the medium we are engaging in. It's much like my earlier post where I tried to explain my anti-PC stance. In reality, a very complicated stance. But in type... it's hard to do much more than "PC is killin' ma' country!" without engaging in a several paragraph, hour long post.
I am exactly one of those "Let 'em suffer" fellas. I feel that simply by living in USA#1, any failure to succeed is nothing short of a failure of self, and as such, that responsibility should lie at that selfs' feet. It what I believe; further, it's what I live. There's not few here who know of my trials and tribulations, and there's a couple few that will attest to my refusal of charity, my "shunning of handouts". It's not a lack of compassion, as I believe I have, if anything, too much of that. But it's something, surely...
And I think what it is is nothing more than good, ol fashioned cynicism. I just haven't seen it, what the Left is trying to accomplish. Perhaps that's the fault of sensationalized media, maybe it's my fault for not being attuned to the positivity that surrounds me, but nothing pops into my mind when hearing "charity" or "welfare" other than fraud, corruption, and folks doing nothing while affording more and better material goods than the working man. Perhaps it's nothing more than brainwashing, perhaps it's nothing more than a lack of information, but it is nonetheless the only feeling that happens inside me.
But many things you've said have gotten through, and they've done so through no other means than an effort at communication and original ideas. You tell me to help a poor, and I'll tell you I am by not being one. Tell me to "help" by donating a buck, and I ain't got a buck to spare. Give a good and I ain't a good to give. But by mixing the tired standard of "give" with something attuned to "my side", "skill", and suddenly, we're approaching understanding. A left idea and a right concept merging, for no other reason than two folks listened and heard.
Lol, what's embarrassing is I was gonna reference what i think was Bab's post, about something serious going on and we're all bitching about some salacious bit of freaking gossip, and I can't even reference it properly because what was said was "important" and ain't nobody got time fo dat, so I just sort of skimmed it.
It's happening. Can we please dial up the proper discussion before I become just another caricature?
I assume Brokaw was referring to Trump and the CNN guy at today's "press conference."
If you can find an example of Obama going after someone from FOX like that, be my guest. But you can't.
The inability to use a search engine is noted, going along with customary lack of any citation.Quote: ams288
The lack of any supporting documentation showing how Barack Obama went after James Rosen is noted.
Obama just went after the voting public telling them to stop getting their information from Rush Limbaugh and Fox News.
And to interject, since I look at the world as a probabilist, the distribution of societal outcomes is superior when you tilt the needle toward "more social spending, less likely for an individual to fail, more likely for an individual to scam the system" than "less social spending, more likely for an individual to fail, less likely for an individual to scam the system." It's never going to be black or white and there's no one-size-fits-all solution. We just need to find the strategy that optimizes EV. (Just...)Quote: beachbumbabs
I allow that I may be getting scammed, you allow that at times people really legitimately need the help and can then recover to self-sufficiency. I think there is a place for social agencies, you don't. And we're both partly right. And you do walk the walk; as you mentioned above, you are self-reliant to a fault (my opinion) but I admire you very much for it. I believe that if you have, and those you love don't, you share. I've paid a high price for that belief, and it still grieves me.