Romes
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onenickelmiracle
August 10th, 2017 at 7:49:21 AM permalink
Girls use dating sites because similar to guys it's unfortunately the best place to meet new people once you're out of school/college. Think about it... I work a 9-5, have AP, have a house and a dog, what time do I have to go out and meet someone 'at a bar' or at the grocery store? First, I don't want to meet my future wife at a bar, not that I would be against meeting someone at a bar anyways, but I don't have high hopes in my 30's for meeting a quality girl to marry at a bar. Not saying it's impossible, just improbable. Next, most women have definitely adapted the "F YOU" tattoo on their forehead in public. I'm an in shape younger guy, but I swear if I even look at a girl in public she's instantly afraid I'm stalking her or going to rape her. Guys just can't talk to girls in public anymore (for the most part) due to women being terrified of every single guy. So online women feel safe because they can talk to you without you being physically present. Also, you get pictures, a bio, etc so you can learn a bit more about the person before ever meeting them (being physically vulnerable).

Not only that, but online dating is SKEWED very very much for women. Any kind of decent looking female will get a dozen new messages per day and essentially have her pick of the litter. Thus, online dating is PERFECT for the "perfect" girl because she can pick and choose exactly who she wants to meet with exactly whatever amount of interaction/chatting before meeting she desires.

All that being said, I think online dating is pretty much a joke... This pick of the litter stuff commonly leads to the "next shiny object" syndrome where women just drop conversations all the time and move on to the next shiny object they get a message from the next day.

I ran an experiment with online dating when I was using it a lot (hey, I'm a scientist...). I sent 100 "qualified" messages to 100 girls I was at least moderately attracted to, and didn't worry about other stuff in their profile that would be disqualifies even. A qualified message is at least 2-3 sentences long, giving a compliment, and highlighting commonalities or interest we share, then asking a question to encourage conversation. Of those 100 messages:

- 38 responses
- 17 lasted past 1 or 2 messages
- 9 lasted past a couple days of messaging
- 3 led to exchanging phone numbers
- I went on 2 disappointing dates.

This took months and constant effort to check online and message people back promptly before they got shiny object syndrome. I've also got to figure I've got a 1 up on your average guy... Good job, house, car, athletic, and have a bunch of hobbies. None the less, failure... Thus, it's also why guys online usually just try to hookup. There's a HIGHER SUCCESS RATE for putting in ZERO EFFORT other than "hey wanna hook up?"

After that I disappointment, I of course had to run the experiment the other way... I sent out around 50 "hey, wanna hook up?" messages and got a 75% return message rate (as opposed to HALF that sending a 'qualified' message). Half of those responses were "no, blah blah blah" but even of those "no's" it led to conversations that led to potential meetings! After this experiment it's baffling to me that people still "try" with online dating. It's a joke and is goin to fail once ever guy realizes they'll have better odds saying "wanna hook up?" and women will not get the pedestal treatment they get put on anymore online since all guys just wanna hook up (as a result of their previous shiny object syndrome).
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boymimbo
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August 10th, 2017 at 8:06:00 AM permalink
I agree with you that in public, women rightfully have the "FU" up and it comes from years of harassment. I have to admit that my kid, a 19 year old living in Toronto, is average looking. But she gets hit on, sat beside on the subway, gets followed when walking alone at night and the perversion element in urban centers is huge. She's at the point where she dresses well below average when she is out on her own to not attract attention. So, I don't blame women for keeping up a guard - they have to.

But when it comes to social interaction, you can do better off but unfortunately it requires severe baggage like a pet or children. Off the top of my head the most social interaction I have with women are at the workplace, at the grocery store, or at the casino when there are commonalities to talk about. At the workplace it's pretty simple. At the grocery store it's usually in the checkout line or assisting someone with a price or finding an item (this one's a better deal and there's a coupon over there) can start an interaction. And at the casino, you can talk about how their night is going, etc. And of course there is the "single friend" of a friend deal.

And when you are single and in your mid-30s you have to accept baggage in a companion or have to have alot of money. 20 somethings will not look at you unless you can offer them a free pass and a good time at your expense. And those left in their 30s are either divorced with younger children, have large mental blocks or are are extremely ugly (either in looks or personality).

But I agree that putting out an extremely wide net is the only way you will find success in the dating site world, which means alot of work for the men.
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AxelWolf
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August 10th, 2017 at 8:23:12 AM permalink
I have never even looked at a dating site, I doubt I ever will. From my understanding, all women love football and drinking beer on weekends.
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I was playing in the casino the other day next to an older lady (she seems to be at least 60) and what seemed to be a younger co-worker. I assume they were here attending a convention or something because they had on business dress attire. I was surprised when I heard the younger girl ask the older lady if she had been on Tinder lately and she answered yes. I was under the impression Tinder was a hookup site?

Have you been successful with Grinder, Romes?
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MrV
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August 10th, 2017 at 9:02:27 AM permalink
Churches have long served a dual purpose: spiritual nourishment and social lubricant.

Many couples have met, and still do meet, at church and church-related activities.

But what of non-believers?

The closest thing atheists have to a church is a casino, but casinos aren't conducive to meeting new folks: its denizens are in the midst of a gambling mood, not a quasi-romantic one, and there seems to be a gulf between the two.
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boymimbo
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August 10th, 2017 at 9:58:59 AM permalink
Quote: MrV

Churches have long served a dual purpose: spiritual nourishment and social lubricant.

Many couples have met, and still do meet, at church and church-related activities.



Extremely true.
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rxwine
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August 10th, 2017 at 10:27:57 AM permalink
Quote: Romes


- 38 responses
- 17 lasted past 1 or 2 messages
- 9 lasted past a couple days of messaging
- 3 led to exchanging phone numbers
- I went on 2 disappointing dates.

This took months and constant effort to check online and message people back promptly before they got shiny object syndrome. I've also got to figure I've got a 1 up on your average guy... Good job, house, car, athletic, and have a bunch of hobbies. None the less, failure... Thus, it's also why guys online usually just try to hookup. There's a HIGHER SUCCESS RATE for putting in ZERO EFFORT other than "hey wanna hook up?"



Usually, the best dating recommendation you can get is if you know the friend of the female you want to date. If she likes you, it's like a golden ticket.

Unless she already burned her friend a couple times..

Doesn't mean it will work out in the long run though.
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onenickelmiracle
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August 10th, 2017 at 11:22:13 AM permalink
Women are really big into PhotoShop, usually toy with their eyes making them bigger. Big eyes look good on women, but those women always are trouble for me, can never trust a word they say
Looks like sh!t just got imaginary!
Rigondeaux
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August 10th, 2017 at 12:14:09 PM permalink
Quote: boymimbo



But when it comes to social interaction, you can do better off but unfortunately it requires severe baggage like a pet or children.
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It is effing amazing how many people just have kids with random people now, like adopting puppies.

Tons of otherwise attractive young women with the caveat that you'll have to raise some other guy's children.

I guess a lot of guys just have to bite the bullet, but then they probably bail after they've had some sex and companionship and it starts to get to the point where they're on the hook for braces or college. Or they want to have their own family.

Then everybody's back to square one.

Or, alternatively, nobody really cares about the kids that much in the first place. Then they start popping out kids with random people.

If I was young and wanted to meet a wife, I think I'd get certified to teach English in other countries.
OnceDear
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August 10th, 2017 at 12:17:15 PM permalink
Quote: MrV

The closest thing atheists have to a church is a casino



Quote of the year.
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rxwine
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August 10th, 2017 at 12:42:34 PM permalink
I guess there are alternative methods.

Quote:

Gangs are using bloody car seats to lure female motorists out of their vehicles as part of a "National Gang Week" activity


(snopes item)

I didn't even know there was a "National Gang Week."

I just don't keep up.

I assume if it was a bloody car seat, it might be too late. Seriously though, if I see something on the highway, I will probably use my cell phone. You stop for someone in the middle of nowhere, next thing you know, you're part of "Texas Chainsaw Massacre IV"
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