Beating of MGM Grand Detroit patron

Quote: JimMorrison

If they don't react well to this then they should be relieved of their gun and badge. They are professionals and if they cannot conduct themselves professionally then they need to be fired. Police should be held to a higher standard.

+1

Police should be held to a higher standard. And be paid a lot more. The honest ones, that is !

Police should definitely act like professionals. Unfortunately,
dealing with a certain amount of attitude probably happens
all the time.

I would think the police should have said, "Look buddy, if
you don't leave, we're going to have to arrest you for
trespassing, and you're gonna spend a night in jail.
Your call". In fact, maybe he should have been hauled
straight to jail, because it seems like MGM has the
right to kick you out if justified.

And finally.....

The rule I would like to implement is that anyone
who bitches about police, referees, etc, automatically
has to step in and do that job. I think that would
cut down on the bellyachin !

Quote: buzzpaff

The honest ones, that is !

Never trust a cop. You can never tell when he will turn honest.

Quote: FleaStiff

How does that first cop know she has a permit?

I bet he has SCMODS.

/sigh. I was on the cops side until multiple reviews of the footage. The first scene (chin tapping) was probably enough for them to handcuff and carry the patron out. The guys quick spin and chest puff in scene two was grounds to get flopped. At that point by both his previous actions and his body language, the officer could've probably gotten away with an arm bar and stuffing the guy face first into the carpet. But, while his right hook/left hook combo was impressive, that's not police training. Just look at HIS body language. Looks like a tough guy at the bar standing over his fallen opponent, like someone mouthed off and he "taught him a lesson".

The punch on the ground? Meh. He WAS still resisting, and they were punches to the armpit/rib area, so in light of the previous, I think it's the least of the officers worries. Methinks this cops' goose is cooked. He could've given the patron a DDT a la Jake "The Snake" Roberts and not come off as brutal. Ah well.

I wonder about some of the situations where the officers have someone on the ground already. Are they really resisting, or does having your arm or shoulder twisted, being tazed, or knee in the back so you can't breathe cause a lot of involuntary struggling? Meanwhile the officers are often yelling "stop resisting".

...perhaps that's an actual technique used by bad cops. Pin the person, adminster some extra painful action, and when the person reacts you've got an excuse to really clobber him.

Quote: rxwine

...perhaps that's an actual technique used by bad cops. Pin the person, adminster some extra painful action, and when the person reacts you've got an excuse to really clobber him.

Hehe, I dig what you're saying, and I imagine there must be a few who abuse their badge in this manner. "Stop resisting!" as the perp convulses with 50,000V coursing through their body. Not cool. But most courts side with cops, and I must admit, I do too. Clearly this example went too far, I don't dispute that, but a lot of people cry foul over any physical actions. I forget what it's called, but there's a ladder of force deemed reasonable for use. If someone wants to yell, you get to wrestle. If someone wants to wrestle, you get to punch. If they wanna punch, you get to mase. They mase, you taze. They taze, you shoot. Always one step above.

This guy skipped a step, and I'd bet cash money he pays for it.

Quote: EvenBob

Again, its Detroit. Have you ever been to Detroit?
Here are the stats on Detroit:

White 116,599 12.26%

Black or African American 775,772 81.55%

Its a swell, magical place. You should visit
there soon...

Why have you interjected race into this thread? The topic at hand is the altercation in the casino and it is not a racial incident. The comment about relieving a cop of his gun and badge does not mention race either.

This is just like your "pull your pants up" thread when the issue was "the pants" and you just had to mention that it was a black guy you were making fun of. Your agenda is appalling.