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Ibeatyouraces
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July 24th, 2013 at 11:52:18 AM permalink
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Beethoven9th
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July 24th, 2013 at 12:14:56 PM permalink
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But there is one thing you do that will thwart any "rigging" the machine may have. It has no clue how you'll play the hand.


I've always wondered about this in regards to baccarat since players have no role in the outcome.
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July 24th, 2013 at 12:43:44 PM permalink
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Beethoven9th
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July 24th, 2013 at 12:53:07 PM permalink
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True, but the machine has no idea what way you'll bet either.


That's true, but I've always wondered what the results would be if someone stacked the deck so that it followed some weird (non-random) pattern. Oh well.
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July 24th, 2013 at 12:59:51 PM permalink
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Beethoven9th
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July 24th, 2013 at 1:10:00 PM permalink
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My guess is it would be the same as if it were in a random pattern.


For the average bac player, I would definitely agree, but hardcore bac players (e.g., gr8player) have a really weird way of thinking. For example, if the deck was stacked so that there were, say, 15 Players in a row immediately followed by 15 Bankers and then back to 15 Players, I bet a lot of those hardcore bac guys would get killed.

(For the record, I've only been worried about stacked decks at certain Indian casinos. I've never had any such worries at Nevada casinos.)
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July 24th, 2013 at 1:14:35 PM permalink
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Don12Juan
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October 20th, 2013 at 11:22:49 AM permalink
How do you get around the conspiracy if it was true? Is there any way we can find a pattern and learn a new style of play to win at black jack?
Tomspur
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October 21st, 2013 at 10:45:00 PM permalink
I'm sure most of you guys know this but the shuffle machines have been "tracked" successfully (even thought he algorythms have since been fixed) AND shuffling machines can be counted.

It is not a very high +EV game. There are two large advantages though.....

1) Nobody will question you if you spread 20 units or larger as "it is a shuffle machine, nobody can beat it"
2) The technique is not very well proven but it is incredibly easy.

I don't think you could make a living from it but you could enjoy a few hands and spread your bets without worrying about heat?

I'm not sure if this is reallyw aht this thread is about, I just thought I would give my penny's worth :)
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AxelWolf
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October 22nd, 2013 at 1:13:59 AM permalink
I don't think dealers properly shuffle the cards, especially in poker games
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪

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