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April 4th, 2011 at 10:38:47 AM permalink
OneAngryDwarf
Member since: Dec 17, 2009
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...suck. Won't be going back there anytime soon, and doesn't look like I'll have the time anyway.

Blackjack: At least at the Hard Rock, all 6-deck and H17. Pretty much impossible to find anything other than $15 and $25 minimums. High limit room had S17, but only if you are prepared to bet $100 and up.

I'd love to say what the rules are at the Seminole...but they weren't listed anywhere. Not on the table felt, not on a sign, nothing. Since the same tribe runs both places, I assume they're the same as HR.

No craps, no roulette. Spanish 21 is plentiful, but with the worst rules (H17, no redoubling).

UTH: Only at Seminole, contrary to what the Hard Rock's website might lead you to believe. Bad Trips paytable (8:1 for full house, 4:1 for straight). $10 minimum, which is high for this game.

Atmosphere: Hard Rock is actually pretty nice inside, catering mostly to tourists. During the short ride down to the Seminole, the cab driver told me that it's "more of a locals place." I should've guessed that that was code for "surly, trahsy clientele and amounts of cigarette smoke that will take between 6-18 months off your life, depending how long you can actually stand to be there." The only food option there, a deli counter, had some of the slowest service I've ever encountered in any dining establishment, including every McDonald's I've ever been to.

So I guess this is a lesson in why having a monopoly is a bad thing.
"Here's an idea: Why don't you give me half the money you were gonna bet, then we'll go out back, I'll kick you in the nuts, and we'll call it a day?" --Wallace Shawn, Vegas Vacation
April 4th, 2011 at 11:10:36 AM permalink
JIMMYFOCKER
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They have 99.5% and better video poker though.
April 4th, 2011 at 11:40:33 AM permalink
OneAngryDwarf
Member since: Dec 17, 2009
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Quote: JIMMYFOCKER
They have 99.5% and better video poker though.


Fair enough. I'm not really a VP guy, so I tend to overlook that. Thanks for the info.
"Here's an idea: Why don't you give me half the money you were gonna bet, then we'll go out back, I'll kick you in the nuts, and we'll call it a day?" --Wallace Shawn, Vegas Vacation
April 4th, 2011 at 12:03:45 PM permalink
rdw4potus
Member since: Mar 11, 2010
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Quote: OneAngryDwarf
...suck. Won't be going back there anytime soon, and doesn't look like I'll have the time anyway.

Blackjack: At least at the Hard Rock, all 6-deck and S17. Pretty much impossible to find anything other than $15 and $25 minimums. High limit room had S17, but only if you are prepared to bet $100 and up.

I'd love to say what the rules are at the Seminole...but they weren't listed anywhere. Not on the table felt, not on a sign, nothing. Since the same tribe runs both places, I assume they're the same as HR.

No craps, no roulette. Spanish 21 is plentiful, but with the worst rules (H17, no redoubling).

UTH: Only at Seminole, contrary to what the Hard Rock's website might lead you to believe. Bad Trips paytable (8:1 for full house, 4:1 for straight). $10 minimum, which is high for this game.

Atmosphere: Hard Rock is actually pretty nice inside, catering mostly to tourists. During the short ride down to the Seminole, the cab driver told me that it's "more of a locals place." I should've guessed that that was code for "surly, trahsy clientele and amounts of cigarette smoke that will take between 6-18 months off your life, depending how long you can actually stand to be there." The only food option there, a deli counter, had some of the slowest service I've ever encountered in any dining establishment, including every McDonald's I've ever been to.

So I guess this is a lesson in why having a monopoly is a bad thing.


I agree with your assessment of the difference in feel between the two casinos. I think I'd like the Hard Rock on a thursday night - late enough in the week that nothing is closed/dark, but not full of crazed 20 something tourists like a weekend would be (I can say that now that I'm 30, right?). I wonder when they removed their UTH table. I played that game there last July when I was in Boca for a wedding.

Did you happen to make it to Coconut Creek? I liked the feel of that place when I was there, but they hadn't quite opened their table games yet last summer when I stopped in.
"So as the clock ticked and the day passed, opportunity met preparation, and luck happened." - Maurice Clarett
April 4th, 2011 at 12:04:25 PM permalink
WizardofEngland
Member since: Nov 2, 2010
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Is this one in Hollywood Florida? I am there the end of the month of the $10k WPT event
124% of people exaggerate.
April 4th, 2011 at 5:59:19 PM permalink
rdw4potus
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Quote: WizardofEngland
Is this one in Hollywood Florida? I am there the end of the month of the $10k WPT event


Yessir, in Hollywood, FL. Is your poker event at the Hard Rock, or up the street at the Seminole Hollywood?
"So as the clock ticked and the day passed, opportunity met preparation, and luck happened." - Maurice Clarett
April 4th, 2011 at 6:08:52 PM permalink
DeMango
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Don't know how it is for you on the east coast, but here on the west coast there is heavy marketing by MGM, CET and the IP for your business to go to Biloxi. Free air for many (I work at the PO and see the adds coming thru) and of course they have competition and all the games down to $5 Baccarrat (Grand-CET), $3 craps(Palace) and $2 Mississippi Stud (Treasure Bay). Or a one day drive.
April 4th, 2011 at 8:18:47 PM permalink
Doc
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Quote: DeMango
Don't know how it is for you on the east coast, but here on the west coast there is heavy marketing by MGM, CET and the IP for your business to go to Biloxi. ...

At the moment, I am a bit peeved at Caesars for the way they have handled promos at Grand Biloxi. I had mail promos that also appeared on the Total Rewards web site and offered 3 free nights any week through February, March, and early April. I planned a trip for late in April and waited for the updated promo to arrive, watching the web site closely. Finally an identical promo showed up on the web site covering the rest of April and early May, and the mailer arrived the same day. I called that day to make my reservations and was told that the offer was sold out. I checked on line, and it was apparently sold out (at least for me) for every week the very first day that it was announced.

I was skeptical that any lodging offer could sell out for a full month in advance on the very day it was announced, but they offered no other explanation. I rather expected that when I tried to make the reservation, they checked my wagering history and decided I did not qualify for the free rooms. I am fine with that, but I don't think they should be mailing me offers that they are not willing to honor.

So yes, they are promoting Biloxi heavily here in the east, too, but I won't be staying at the Grand, because I don't like the way they reneged on the offer.
April 5th, 2011 at 12:51:09 AM permalink
WizardofEngland
Member since: Nov 2, 2010
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Quote: rdw4potus
Yessir, in Hollywood, FL. Is your poker event at the Hard Rock, or up the street at the Seminole Hollywood?


At the Hard Rock
124% of people exaggerate.
April 5th, 2011 at 9:30:08 AM permalink
teddys
Member since: Nov 14, 2009
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Quote: Doc
At the moment, I am a bit peeved at Caesars for the way they have handled promos at Grand Biloxi. I had mail promos that also appeared on the Total Rewards web site and offered 3 free nights any week through February, March, and early April. I planned a trip for late in April and waited for the updated promo to arrive, watching the web site closely. Finally an identical promo showed up on the web site covering the rest of April and early May, and the mailer arrived the same day. I called that day to make my reservations and was told that the offer was sold out. I checked on line, and it was apparently sold out (at least for me) for every week the very first day that it was announced.

I was skeptical that any lodging offer could sell out for a full month in advance on the very day it was announced, but they offered no other explanation. I rather expected that when I tried to make the reservation, they checked my wagering history and decided I did not qualify for the free rooms. I am fine with that, but I don't think they should be mailing me offers that they are not willing to honor.

So yes, they are promoting Biloxi heavily here in the east, too, but I won't be staying at the Grand, because I don't like the way they reneged on the offer.
Did they say the offer was subject to availability? If so, they are off the hook. It is bizarre that they would sell out the very first day it was offered, though.
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