darkoz
darkoz
Joined: Dec 22, 2009
  • Threads: 146
  • Posts: 1569
February 22nd, 2015 at 3:52:44 PM permalink
Here is the exciting conclusion to this tale of the hustling wars:

Within less than a week, Bieber had added a second bus to accommodate the overload of passengers. Jimmy and his crew were able to get seats now but even that blessing seemed to be shrinking. As each day passed, more and more of the seats on both busses were becoming packed.

Seated around the table in the Sands food court, they all lamented the terrible mistake Jimmy had made.

"They're gonna cancel the promotion at this rate!"

"Or possibly ban all the people taking the bus!"

Jimmy frowned. "I don't think they can ban you because you decided to take public transportation to sightsee in another city. I mean, they're handing out anonymous free-play, they can't say who was there earlier and they're shoving it into everyone's hands. Even a legit gambler is not going to hop off the bus with the casino package he purchased and hand the free-play back saying, "Oh, I don't qualify. I was here earlier in the day. Don't give it to me!"

"Well, they are going to do something. They might start ID'ing. What if they demand ID off the Chinatown buses? A whole bunch of homeless people are going to be sleeping in the streets. I think they will at least make a restriction that only people who live in Kutztown are eligible for the promotion."

"Well, they don't have that rule yet. And anyway, who are they to say who lives there and who doesn't," Jimmy countered.

"Have you seen the residents of Kutztown? It's a small Pennsylvania Dutch-German town. There's nothing but white people walking around. It was a stretch when six black and Latino guys were getting off the bus but 150 motherfucking Chinese? From Kutztown?"

Everyone shook there heads in disappointed agreement. There was no way the Sands was gonna believe that one.


Indeed, the Sands was getting quite pissed. Everyday, more and more Asian bus riders were joining the fray. First thing was to stem the rising tide. The Sands contacted Bieber and instructed them not to sell any tickets whatsoever from the casino itself. From now on, a passenger boarding at the Sands must have his ticket in hand already. Since there were no Bieber outlets to buy tickets anywhere in the near environs, this meant if you didn't already have a ticket purchased from the Kutztown or Wescoville stations, you could not board the bus.

This simple tactic seemed to have some small affect on the numbers of passengers. Suddenly, the second bus was not so packed anymore. However, most of the Asian riders were used to purchasing advance tickets on the regular Chinatown run. It was how they were trained to maintain their seats and several of the passengers had already purchased multiple tickets for the future. These people were still able to ride the return bus to Wescoville where they purchased new tickets in a constant merry-go-round of business.

To the consternation of the Sands, the bus ridership began to climb again after only a day or two. Within a week, Bieber had added a third bus as more and more people were taking the excursion. What the hell was happening?

Sands called Bieber to discuss the protocol for selling tickets. Apparently, all Bieber bus tickets are dated for an expiration one year later. There is nothing wrong with purchasing multiple tickets for the future. What the innovative hustlers were doing was purchasing multiple tickets for their hustling friends and family back at the casino. So each day, more and more advance tickets were being distributed to hustlers intent on joining the action.

The next demand the Sands made on Bieber was to eliminate any multiple ticket sales. Only one ticket could be purchased by a customer at a time.

Thankfully, this seemed to put a halt to the growth factor. Still, three buses were pulling into the Sands on two daily trips. With so many people getting off the busses, the greeters were having a difficult time catching up. Asking for ID from hundreds of debarking passengers wasn't going to work. And as Jimmy and his crew had rationalized, there was nothing intrinsically wrong with taking public transportation and returning to the casino.

The Sands next move was intended to stem the multiple round trips. They informed Bieber that effective immediately, the bus bonus package would only be valid from Kutztown--a full 45 minutes further than the Wescoville stop. This meant there was no way for passengers to return twice on Bieber as one bus, on its way towards Kutztown would pass the second bus already on its casino run.

You could still purchase the cheaper Wescoville ticket but you would not qualify for the bus bonus.

Immediately, the first bus from Kutzown had less passengers. It was now only the second bus that was arriving packed with hustlers. Although still not happy, the Sands was beginning to breathe a collective sigh of relief. They just needed to eliminate whatever rule they could to stop the passengers who were clearly from NYC hopping on the Bieber bus.

But these passengers were born hustlers. The Sands was shocked when within the week, the first bus, once again, was packed with Asians debarking from Kutztown. The Sands again called Bieber.

"Are you selling tickets to all these people on both busses?"

"Sure am. The lines here are crazy. My life used to be real easy. I could hop on the internet or read a book, selling one or two tickets an hour. Now I get no rest. People are blocking the driveways, even."

The Sands was stumped. They were certain, the same people were making these multiple trips but it was physically impossible for them to be taking the Bieber bus both directions.

Watching them debark, the Sands noticed the hustlers were all doing the polar opposite of all the regular customers. While most people would make a left turn off the bus to enter the casino, these people were all making a right turn and walking off the property.

Frustrated, Sands sent plainclothes security officers to follow the mass exodus. They stalked quietly behind as the group of a hundred and fifty plus passengers left the casino grounds, crossed over the adjacent bridge and trudged up the hill on the other side. Once arriving at the top of the hill, security saw a virtual flotilla of personal SUV's and mini-vans picking up the hustlers. But there wasn't enough of these cars to pick up everyone. They had the help, of all things, of an Asian casino bus waiting for them!

It was clear what was happening. Not waiting for the scheduled bus to Kutztown to arrive, they were being ferried to Kutztown for a small fee in order to make the first bus, then were being picked up and ferried back for the second bus.

Sands contacted the Asian bus company who were as shocked to hear about this as they were. There certainly was no sanctioned bus run from the Sands casino in Bethlehem to Kutztown.

Now, the Sands had the smoking gun they needed.

On a day in late March of 2013, as the first Bieber bus arrived with every seat filled with hustlers, they were shocked to see in the bus depot a group of security officers from the Sands accompanied by Pennsylvania State Troopers whose cars were parked nearby. When the bus door opened up, the greeter informed everyone they needed to have their ID's out and at the ready.

As each and every person disembarked, the greeter verified the state origination of their ID. Passengers with Pennsylvania ID's were handed their bus bonus and given a warm welcome and a good luck greeting. Those whose ID were from New York were instructed to line up against the wall with no bonus.

Pretty soon, there were over a hundred people lined up against the wall. It was like a scene from a gangland movie or a mafia picture. Once everyone was lined up, casino security with State troopers right behind wrote down everyone's name from their ID, filled in the one or two blanks in pre-filled Banishment documents and handed these hustlers their 86'd walking papers.

The rest of the hustling community watched with stunned eyes from the bus lobby which conveniently has glass doors and windows enabling a spectacular view of the proceedings.

Only one single bus was required for the number of passengers that arrived from Kutztown the next day. Approximately six passengers got off the bus in total. All of them had Pennsylvania ID's.

Thus ends Another Tale of the Hustling Wars.
Frogger
Frogger
Joined: Jun 26, 2013
  • Threads: 14
  • Posts: 163
February 22nd, 2015 at 6:19:27 PM permalink
So silly of the casino. They could have done one simple thing: no more coupons. That would have ended it from day 1.
Deck007
Deck007
Joined: Mar 3, 2014
  • Threads: 21
  • Posts: 344
February 22nd, 2015 at 6:26:28 PM permalink
Good read.
It is one Sands promotion that got out off hand. Any casino should have been alert when a promotion get out of hand.
What I don't understand is why the State Troopers are involved. Getting 86'd is a private matter and not a criminal offence. So what right has the State Trooper got to play a role here. Could you or somebody explain this.

So shall we say your hustling days are over.
With competition amongst the casinos in the NE so cut throat and many not doing well maybe you will find some other promotions that has loop holes in it.
darkoz
darkoz
Joined: Dec 22, 2009
  • Threads: 146
  • Posts: 1569
February 22nd, 2015 at 6:38:29 PM permalink
First my hustling days are not over and the Sands hustle as related above was not mine. I was not even witness to it.

Approximately two weeks after the events had come to a head, I started taking the Sands bus from Chinatown. The events were still being talked about. I decided to make my way to Kutztown (being white I could pass for German and I had an ace in the hole - a California ID that was still valid so if questioned I was just an out-of-towner visiting relatives in Kutztown.)

At the Kutztown bus depot I heard the events from their angle and everything was eerily similar, almost to the point where it seemed rehearsed. Rarely do events match so much when hearing it from different people. I've related everything as it was told to me.

I heard the State Troopers were involved for a number of reason but only the Sands can really answer that.

Some of the reasons I heard:

1) the Asian bus taking passengers to Kutztown made this a criminal act. The bus was company property and the driver was using it without their knowledge for these activities and receiving financial remuneration.

2) The Sands wanted to intimidate the passengers and other hustlers by letting them see the law was involved.

3) Sands wanted to have crowd control because they knew how many people they were going to be dealing with.

4) Sands wanted to protect themselves against accusations of false imprisonment and later lawsuits by having law enforcement oversee the bannings.

5) possibly all or some of the above.
Deck007
Deck007
Joined: Mar 3, 2014
  • Threads: 21
  • Posts: 344
February 22nd, 2015 at 6:54:47 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

First my hustling days are not over and the Sands hustle as related above was not mine. I was not even witness to it.

Approximately two weeks after the events had come to a head, I started taking the Sands bus from Chinatown. The events were still being talked about. I decided to make my way to Kutztown (being white I could pass for German and I had an ace in the hole - a California ID that was still valid so if questioned I was just an out-of-towner visiting relatives in Kutztown.)

At the Kutztown bus depot I heard the events from their angle and everything was eerily similar, almost to the point where it seemed rehearsed. Rarely do events match so much when hearing it from different people. I've related everything as it was told to me.

I heard the State Troopers were involved for a number of reason but only the Sands can really answer that.

Some of the reasons I heard:

1) the Asian bus taking passengers to Kutztown made this a criminal act. The bus was company property and the driver was using it without their knowledge for these activities and receiving financial remuneration.

2) The Sands wanted to intimidate the passengers and other hustlers by letting them see the law was involved.

3) Sands wanted to have crowd control because they knew how many people they were going to be dealing with.

4) Sands wanted to protect themselves against accusations of false imprisonment and later lawsuits by having law enforcement oversee the bannings.

5) possibly all or some of the above.



None of the 5 reasons you mentioned don't make legal sense.
darkoz
darkoz
Joined: Dec 22, 2009
  • Threads: 146
  • Posts: 1569
February 22nd, 2015 at 6:56:37 PM permalink
Quote: Deck007

None of the 5 reasons you mentioned don't make legal sense.



Since you've used a double negative I hesitantly agree with you, lol.
Dieter
Dieter
Joined: Jul 23, 2014
  • Threads: 7
  • Posts: 1483
February 22nd, 2015 at 8:52:42 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

I heard the State Troopers were involved for a number of reason but only the Sands can really answer that.



At least around here, from what I've heard, you can request that a law enforcement officer be sent as a "keeper of the peace".

It's not that anything illegal has happened, but if you believe that a situation might escalate unpleasantly, having a LEO present as an obvious observer can counteract that tendency to escalate unpleasantly.
May the cards fall in your favor.
teddys
teddys
Joined: Nov 14, 2009
  • Threads: 150
  • Posts: 5431
February 22nd, 2015 at 9:54:33 PM permalink
Great story. The resourcefulness of the hustlers amazes me.

Asian hustlers>regular hustlers. New York Asians=>the best hustlers.
"Dice, verily, are armed with goads and driving-hooks, deceiving and tormenting, causing grievous woe." -Rig Veda 10.34.4
sc15
sc15
Joined: Sep 28, 2014
  • Threads: 11
  • Posts: 594
February 23rd, 2015 at 1:08:22 AM permalink
If they're giving you disposable players cards preloaded with free play, here's an idea for a scam:

Play your free play, then take a magnet and demagnetize it, then take it to the player's club desk and say it doesn't work. When they try to swipe it, it really won't work since you messed with it.

This is assuming they don't bother printing a unique serial # on each card that they can use to track em.
darkoz
darkoz
Joined: Dec 22, 2009
  • Threads: 146
  • Posts: 1569
February 23rd, 2015 at 3:44:33 AM permalink
Quote: sc15

If they're giving you disposable players cards preloaded with free play, here's an idea for a scam:

Play your free play, then take a magnet and demagnetize it, then take it to the player's club desk and say it doesn't work. When they try to swipe it, it really won't work since you messed with it.

This is assuming they don't bother printing a unique serial # on each card that they can use to track em.



That is most definitely what they do.

One person was caught with multiple free-plays when they tracked him.

I was informed of the scam from someone else so the details aren't 100% for me but they went something like this.

The person was obtaining over a hundred of the free-plays by filling the bus with homeless passengers on his payroll. Not sure how it worked but homeless will sometimes work for pennies especially if they aren't completely savvy as to the hustle or they have no ID to get into the casino and are young looking.

At any rate, they busted this guy when he played ALL 100 cards at the same machine all the time. They got suspicious when the tracking numbers from the free-play went up numerically on an almost daily basis.

He probably had a machine whose payout was good enough he didn't want to spread the action on his razor-thin edge but he got banned for certain.

  • Jump to: