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May 10th, 2014 at 4:30:52 PM permalink
Finally checked out Caesars Windsor today.

If it wasn't such a pain to cross the border, I'd probably go there more often. The clientele seemed more friendly than the Detroit casinos. And no smoking is a plus.

Played $5 Caribbean Stud for a while (my carny game of choice). They have a new pay table for the progressive that pays 9-1 for trips, 30-1 for a straight, and 300-1 for four of a kind. Apparently it used to not pay for a three of a kind or straight, and paid 500-1 for 4oak. I wonder how this affects the edge, that pay table isn't on WoO. Broke even there and moved to blackjack.

Most of the tables were $15 and most were 21+3, but I found a $10 perfect pairs table. They use the 6-12-25 pay table. Of course I didn't play the PP. There was a grumpy old man at first base who would mutter under his breath whenever I got a pair. He was a terrible player. One of those grumpy jerks who sucks the life from the table. He kept proudly announcing how he NEVER splits 8s, because 8s are the worst card in the deck...(???) He kept a running count of how many hands he went without a pair. Got to 14. Boo hoo.

I left when I was up $200 ($175.25 US).

They still have S17 Spanish 21. And you can resplit aces at the low limit BJ games, which is rare for Caesars properties. I guess it's to remain competitive with the Detroit casinos...?
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May 10th, 2014 at 4:46:56 PM permalink
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As far as I've known, you could resplit aces there since the late 90's



It's not a big deal, but it always just seems needlessly stingy to me when you can't. Most Horseshoe casinos don't allow it and the low limit 3-2 tables in Vegas CET casinos don't allow it.
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May 16th, 2014 at 11:06:06 AM permalink
I'm going to a concert tomorrow at the Joe Louis Arena. Never been there before.

Is it a plausible idea to park at Greektown (assuming they're not charging) and take the people mover to the Joe?
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Does anyone have information on motor city casino? I'm going there mid June with some friends and will be catching the tigers game and then hitting the town before coming back to gamble. How is the casino? How are the rules and penetration on the low limit black jack? Do they have full pay jacks or better? Do they have 3 card poker for $5? Is there any bar in Detroit I should definitely check out after the game? I'll only be there the one night.
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June 14th, 2014 at 12:12:31 PM permalink
Ok - I was at Caesars Windsor last night from about 9pm - 12:30 am.

Compared to the Detroit casinos, it was heaven. Not nearly as loud, crowded, busy, annoying, etc. The crowd level for a Friday night there probably rivals a Saturday morning/afternoon at the MGM Grand Detroit.

They have a $5 electronic blackjack pit. Same rules as the normal tables. 8 deck, 3:2, etc. The only difference really is that all the betting/paying out is done electronically on an touch pad screen on the table. I played a quick session at one and doubled my buy-in very quickly. The only downside I can see to these tables is that they deal FAST. Because once you get your cards, everyone basically presses hit, stand, or double on their screen at the same time and the dealer just flies through and then doesn't have to pay out with chips because it's done electronically. I'd love to know how many hands per hour they deal compared to a regular table.

Table limits for all the carny games like 3CP, Let It Ride, UTH, Four Card Poker were $5 (except Pai Gow was $15. They have a bunch of Pai Gow Poker tables, some of the commission-free version).

I was in a carny game mood so I played $5 Crazy 4 Poker for like an hour and ended up dead even.

Played some S17 Spanish 21. That was a disaster. Lost my $100 buy-in really quickly. That game can be so rough.

Then I sat at a $15 regular BJ table for the rest of the night and had a "dream session" where I basically couldn't lose. I don't think I ever lost more than 3 in a row, and I can't even remember losing one double down. I might've pushed one. Bought in for $100, got up to $500 and decided it was bedtime.
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June 19th, 2014 at 1:38:52 PM permalink
Has anyone spotted Ben Affleck in the Detroit area recently?
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Has anyone spotted Ben Affleck in the Detroit area recently?



Ibeatyouraces saw him a few times I think, but he's deleted all his posts.

Apparently Ben was booted from Caesars Windsor for counting.
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October 23rd, 2014 at 6:54:51 AM permalink
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Ibeatyouraces saw him a few times I think, but he's deleted all his posts.

Yeah, he went back and deleted all 5,000+ posts. That must have taken forever. He hasn't visited since October 2nd. I wonder what's going on.
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October 23rd, 2014 at 7:02:49 AM permalink
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Yeah, he went back and deleted all 5,000+ posts. That must have taken forever. He hasn't visited since October 2nd. I wonder what's going on.



I assumed it had something to do with him having concerns about his privacy after the sale of WoV.
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February 14th, 2015 at 10:47:52 AM permalink
Is this thread still alive?

I've visited Greektown a lot the past couple years. I'm glad their marketing department finally improved their bonus/payback system and mailer schedule. Only place to go in Detroit where you'll get close to 100% after comps and perks with video poker. NSUD (99.72%) is still running strong. Another thing I like about Greektown is they essentially pay for my gas money to drive there. As a member (which is completely free), every week you receive somewhere between $5-10 (I even saw $15 a while back) in bonus play.

MotorCity just completely lost my recommendation to anyone that enjoys video poker. Deuces Wild is just plain awful, and they recently cut their best JOB machines from 9/5 to 8/5. No thanks, MC. You just priced yourself out of the VP competition. And maybe they don't care and that's not their target market, no idea. They may still get a little business from me, regardless, because the poker room is kept up well.

Caesar's Windsor? The hassle of crossing the border terminates them from my consideration set, I'm afraid. I tend to visit casinos for just a few hours at a time, usually just 2-4 hours, so it's just not worth it to me. I've been there before, and I think the last time was either 2007 or 2008. Never investigated the VP though. I was strictly playing Texas hold'em in those days.

I haven't been to MGM in a while either, but I hear the VP payouts are still a long ways off from being impressive.
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February 14th, 2015 at 10:51:19 AM permalink
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Yeah, he went back and deleted all 5,000+ posts. That must have taken forever. He hasn't visited since October 2nd. I wonder what's going on.



This is a vBulletin forum, and assuming it's the software version I suspect it is, removing all the posts associated with a single user is as easy as clicking a couple buttons in the admin panel. Very easy database cleansing. :)
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February 16th, 2015 at 5:29:34 PM permalink
Quote: AHRH


Quote: teddys

Yeah, he went back and deleted all 5,000+ posts. That must have taken forever. He hasn't visited since October 2nd. I wonder what's going on.


This is a vBulletin forum, and assuming it's the software version I suspect it is, removing all the posts associated with a single user is as easy as clicking a couple buttons in the admin panel. Very easy database cleansing. :)


A) This is not a vBulletin forum, this forum runs on hand-written software
B) I doubt the owners/operators of the forum would be conducive to handling requests by a specific user to delete all of their posts. Possibly but unlikely
C) It would be entirely possible to script exactly what IBYA did with a hacky perl or ruby script. Just a bunch of HTTP stuff. My guess is IBYA did this or got someone else to do it. It's a shame, he left a lot of good info here.
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February 16th, 2015 at 6:19:27 PM permalink
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Is this thread still alive?



Caesar's Windsor? The hassle of crossing the border terminates them from my consideration set, I'm afraid. I tend to visit casinos for just a few hours at a time, usually just 2-4 hours, so it's just not worth it to me. I've been there before, and I think the last time was either 2007 or 2008. Never investigated the VP though. I was strictly playing Texas hold'em in those days.

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Well things have improved at the boarder since 2007-8. When I fly home now a days its usually into Detroit Metro which means I cross the boarder to get into Windsor and also to fly back west. Plus a trip home always includes shopping or a ballgame hockey game football game again crossing the boarder..... never an issue

Not sure how you do it but my mothers friend from the Lansing area that ONLY plays at Windsor gets money to cover her tolls each month from the Casino.

And now for the big one.... with the Canadian dollar in the dumps do you know your US$$$$ go a lot further in Windsor now? $1 US is worth around $1.22 Canadian... still not the 50% on the dollar like it once was but still something that makes Caesars Windsor a play

Only full pay VP are located along the wall to the high rollers room.... and its just the PICK'EM thats full pay I believe...but $80 coin in for 1 point on your Caesars card
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February 16th, 2015 at 6:22:54 PM permalink
Quote: AHRH

Is this thread still alive?

I've visited Greektown a lot the past couple years. I'm glad their marketing department finally improved their bonus/payback system and mailer schedule. Only place to go in Detroit where you'll get close to 100% after comps and perks with video poker. NSUD (99.72%) is still running strong. Another thing I like about Greektown is they essentially pay for my gas money to drive there. As a member (which is completely free), every week you receive somewhere between $5-10 (I even saw $15 a while back) in bonus play.

MotorCity just completely lost my recommendation to anyone that enjoys video poker. Deuces Wild is just plain awful, and they recently cut their best JOB machines from 9/5 to 8/5. No thanks, MC. You just priced yourself out of the VP competition. And maybe they don't care and that's not their target market, no idea. They may still get a little business from me, regardless, because the poker room is kept up well.

Caesar's Windsor? The hassle of crossing the border terminates them from my consideration set, I'm afraid. I tend to visit casinos for just a few hours at a time, usually just 2-4 hours, so it's just not worth it to me. I've been there before, and I think the last time was either 2007 or 2008. Never investigated the VP though. I was strictly playing Texas hold'em in those days.

I haven't been to MGM in a while either, but I hear the VP payouts are still a long ways off from being impressive.



I haven't been to Greektown since May.

I was just at MGM and MotorCity a couple weeks ago.

I go to Caesars Windsor very regularly, even though it is a pain to cross the border (they literally have some freebie or giveaway just about every day).

MGM got rid of their Double Exposure and Blackjack Switch tables. They added one Free Bet Blackjack table. On their Pai Gow Poker game, the progressive jackpot was up to $277,000.

MotorCity had a couple $15 stay on S17 blackjack tables open so I played there for a while.
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March 12th, 2015 at 4:10:03 PM permalink
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A) This is not a vBulletin forum, this forum runs on hand-written software..



Very interesting and apparently I stand quite corrected then. Nearly everything about the styling of this forum appears as the very first vBulletin v3 forum I helped administrate. Must be nothing more than coincidence then. That's certainly within the realm of possibilities for seasoned developers.
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March 12th, 2015 at 4:16:26 PM permalink
Great info coilman and ams.

Do either of you individuals play craps? As we're approaching mid-2015, what is currently your favorite of the Detroit Four (yes, including Windsor) for craps?

I should mention that I hardly ever stray from playing the best-odds strategy. A $5-10 min bet table with up to 10x odds is what I look for every time.

Thanks!
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March 12th, 2015 at 4:53:20 PM permalink
No craps for me ...watched my buddy play it back in December at Windsor.... never knew you could lose money that fast LOL

and the Canadian PESO means that US $1 is up around$1.25 Can...$400 US gets you$500 Can or close too it
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March 12th, 2015 at 6:05:47 PM permalink
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No craps for me ...watched my buddy play it back in December at Windsor.... never knew you could lose money that fast LOL

and the Canadian PESO means that US $1 is up around$1.25 Can...$400 US gets you$500 Can or close too it



Haha. It's funny, I checked that right before you posted. Yep, Google is showing $1 USD to $1.27 CAD atm. :D

That's turning into quite a lure. In my experience, an extra $20 you have to play with per $100 can really bring you back at the end of a bad luck streak.

If you have the bankroll and/or find a low enough min table with 10x odds, I think strictly playing the pass line or don't pass line with anything over 5x odds yields the best return of any casino game in Detroit. Aside from this, the best I'm aware of is NSUD at Greektown. I haven't been able to figure out the GT reward point structure for craps, but I have doubts its enough to tilt the returns past 100%.
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April 19th, 2015 at 9:54:46 AM permalink
Greektown has added DJWild Poker and Asia Poker to their table games.
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May 16th, 2015 at 9:22:59 PM permalink
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Greektown has added DJWild Poker and Asia Poker to their table games.



I was there today. Watched a few hands of Asia Poker being played. It looked painful, to be honest.

The renovations they've do to the casino are nice though. I was impressed.
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May 16th, 2015 at 9:38:19 PM permalink
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The renovations they've do to the casino are nice though. I was impressed.


Dan Gilbert has been buying up a lot of real estate in the general area. Anything with "Bedrock" on it is his.
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June 22nd, 2015 at 8:31:07 AM permalink
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Greektown has added DJWild Poker and Asia Poker to their table games.



Speaking of the GREEKTOWN area..........

http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2015/06/22/greektown-shootings-detroit/29099269/

http://www.freep.com/story/news/2015/06/22/fishbones-woman-speaks/71243408/


IF the grand FORD FIREWORKS go off tonight as planned ( mother nature willing) we will likely read about another shooting or three in tomorrows paper.... I will be taking them in from the safer side of the river ...you know in WINDSOR to the SOUTH OF DETROIT


Personally I lov that area of downtown.... short walk over to the ballpark Ford Field

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http://www.redsmoke.net/
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June 22nd, 2015 at 8:48:29 AM permalink
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Speaking of the GREEKTOWN area..........

http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2015/06/22/greektown-shootings-detroit/29099269/

http://www.freep.com/story/news/2015/06/22/fishbones-woman-speaks/71243408/


IF the grand FORD FIREWORKS go off tonight as planned ( mother nature willing) we will likely read about another shooting or three in tomorrows paper.... I will be taking them in from the safer side of the river ...you know in WINDSOR to the SOUTH OF DETROIT


Personally I lov that area of downtown.... short walk over to the ballpark Ford Field

Best ribs I ever ate at RED SMOKE

http://www.redsmoke.net/


Damn, I'm outta town and missed it.

BTW, GT removed DJWild Poker.
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June 22nd, 2015 at 9:24:33 AM permalink
Also, MGM added a fifth large 3:2 blackjack pit right next to the craps pit. When it was being installed, I was surprised it wasn't going to be 6:5.
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June 22nd, 2015 at 9:25:29 AM permalink
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Damn, I'm outta town and missed it.

BTW, GT removed DJWild Poker.

Are you still in Vegas? PM me your contact info. I'm gonna be there in a day or two.
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June 23rd, 2015 at 8:43:57 AM permalink
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Are you still in Vegas? PM me your contact info. I'm gonna be there in a day or two.


When I do get there, my goal is to identify and pick off KewlJ. :-)
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June 23rd, 2015 at 8:58:46 AM permalink
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Damn, I'm outta town and missed it.

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you can watch the whole show on WDIV.com site


How does Detroit expect to become a tourist area with these types of write ups in the paper almost daily

http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2015/06/23/detroit-shootings-weekend-guns/29139415/
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June 23rd, 2015 at 10:14:20 AM permalink
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When I do get there, my goal is to identify and pick off KewlJ. :-)

He's hard to miss just look for someone about 7 feet tall and 400 pounds.
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June 29th, 2015 at 10:21:24 PM permalink
Its too bad the power outages were not at the CASINOS downtown..the REWARD offered to catch this robbers would have been a whole lot more than $2500 the power company is offering

Word is the powerline fellas that were robbed at all three locations have volunteered to wire the electric chairs for them when they are caught

only in DETROIT

http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2015/06/29/dte-energy-robberies-gunpoint-power-outage/29494275/
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June 29th, 2015 at 10:29:39 PM permalink
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Its too bad the power outages were not at the CASINOS downtown..the REWARD offered to catch this robbers would have been a whole lot more than $2500 the power company is offering

Word is the powerline fellas that were robbed at all three locations have volunteered to wire the electric chairs for them when they are caught

only in DETROIT

http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2015/06/29/dte-energy-robberies-gunpoint-power-outage/29494275/


First thing I thought of was they got robbed of the copper wiring.

Speaking of outrages, power went out at Suncoast just after 7pm here in Vegas.
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Interesting map here....i Believe all three DETROIT casinos are located in the box with the letters "OIT" in Detroit on the map.....oh and note the lack of dots SOUTH of the river in Windsor.... to be fair there would be one for 2015 and it would look like it was at Ceasars Windsor as it happened in the building just behind the parking garage for the casino


http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2015/08/10/map-criminal-homicides-detroit/31246273/


Past weekend body count was 3 with 30 others shot in the city

http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2015/08/10/shootings-detroit-overnight/31402639/
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August 10th, 2015 at 4:33:24 PM permalink
Just a typical weekend.
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September 18th, 2015 at 2:51:05 PM permalink
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Just a typical weekend.



You leave town for a bit and all hell breaks loose

http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2015/09/18/2-women-carjacked-kidnapped-detroit-casino/72407396/
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September 18th, 2015 at 3:56:41 PM permalink
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You leave town for a bit and all hell breaks loose

http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2015/09/18/2-women-carjacked-kidnapped-detroit-casino/72407396/


I guess they got sick of riding the DDOT bus...
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September 18th, 2015 at 4:29:49 PM permalink
Plus I couldn't help myself. We found a dealer flashing 100% of the time :-D
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September 18th, 2015 at 5:58:05 PM permalink
Greektown does in the wee hours of the morning when everyone else is asleep or broke from the night play.
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November 3rd, 2015 at 8:23:57 AM permalink
The three Detroit casinos may authorize a strike next Monday November 9th.
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November 3rd, 2015 at 9:43:43 AM permalink
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The three Detroit casinos may authorize a strike next Monday November 9th.


Time to head to Cleveland or Cincinatti for a bit?
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November 3rd, 2015 at 10:06:49 AM permalink
Maybe Toledo, but the smokers will repent.

And actually, the already authorized a strike here. A final vote will be on Monday.
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November 3rd, 2015 at 11:07:20 AM permalink
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The three Detroit casinos may authorize a strike next Monday November 9th.

They should. The Detroit casinos are making more money than they ever have (especially Motor City). The workers should share in that. I'd imagine a lot of the debt for the new buildings is paid off now, too.
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November 3rd, 2015 at 11:17:07 AM permalink
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They should. The Detroit casinos are making more money than they ever have (especially Motor City). The workers should share in that. I'd imagine a lot of the debt for the new buildings is paid off now, too.


The pit area at MGM yesterday was a ghost town. Two main reasons for the strike are better working conditions and less their own money for health insurance. The same things came up a few years ago and a deal was struck the last minute. I'd expect the same here. As players, just expect worse games and pay outs as it's already bad enough.
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November 3rd, 2015 at 2:02:09 PM permalink
What's with heading to OHIO when CAESARS Windsor is more than happy to assist you in fulfilling your gambling needs.

They will even pay your tolls....ask about that at the TOTAL REWARDS desk

Think the exchange is north of 24 cents on a dollar right now too

NO SMOKING ALLOWED inside +++++

No free alcoholic drinks ----------
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November 3rd, 2015 at 2:17:21 PM permalink
Quote: coilman

What's with heading to OHIO when CAESARS Windsor is more than happy to assist you in fulfilling your gambling needs.

They will even pay your tolls....ask about that at the TOTAL REWARDS desk

Think the exchange is north of 24 cents on a dollar right now too

NO SMOKING ALLOWED inside +++++

No free alcoholic drinks ----------


Not remotely worth the hassle crossing the border anymore.
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coilman
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November 3rd, 2015 at 2:25:26 PM permalink
What hassle?

Crossed a dozen times since I moved back..... never a issue.

Be it picking up/dropping somebody off at Metro, shopping out near 14 mile, baseball game , visiting a friend, never a issue either way. Maybe a few more questions going into the states compared to the 90s when going to a Tiger game they would ask do you think they will win tonight.... enjoy the game.

Way better than it was five years ago at least

Moms friend comes to play at Windsor all the time ..she travels from Lansing and never plays in downtown Detroit

But I guess when you are taking $10,000 ++++ home after a good day it might be an issue LOL
Ibeatyouraces
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November 3rd, 2015 at 2:28:33 PM permalink
A friend of mine went last week and got the third degree coming and going. On top of that, why contribute to helping Caesars get out of debt?
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