My main complaint was at least half the movie focused on Thatcher in the present day, hallucinating about her dead husband. Who needs to see an hour of that, especially when there is a so much material to cover in an amazing life? Thatcher knew she was hallucinating, and the thrust of the movie was her inner conflict to go along with it or fight against it. Meanwhile, scenes from her younger days were told in flashbacks and montages.
Another complaint is it was done in the self-important Oliver Stone style of movie making. Too many cuts, sharp camera angles, and simply overly creative. Just give me a plain and simple movie that tells a story like The Queen or the The King's Speech and I'll be very happy, thank you.
Finally, I think Thatcher herself would be embarrassed if the story of her life focused on her dementia at the end of it. When Ronald Reagan was suffering from Alzheimer's disease Nancy correctly kept him out of the public eye, because he wouldn't have wanted to be remembered in that way.
What you see in The Iron Lady is not the real Thatcher. If the topic of dementia interests you, go to any advanced-stage nursing home and you'll see plenty of it live. I used to volunteer for Pets on Wheels, so I have some first hand experience. If the topic of Thatcher interests you, you're not going to get much out of this movie. I do have to say that Streep can not be faulted for this mess. In fact, I think she looked and sounded like Thatcher amazingly well, without overdoing it.
A big thumbs down from me. On the 0 to 10 scale I give The Iron Lady a 3.
Quote: WizardAs an admirer of Margaret Thatcher, I had been looking forward to the movie since I first heard about it months ago.
The Iron Lady and Margaret Thatcher's dementia: Why this despicable film makes voyeurs of us all is written by a doctor who treats dementia patients. He is not an admirer of Margaret Thatcher, but he despised the film for many of the same reasons.
The fact that the film was made while she is still alive compounded his distaste.
Quote: pacomartinThe fact that the film was made while she is still alive compounded his distaste.
I think any decent person would have to agree with that
Quote: odiousgambitI think any decent person would have to agree with that
Out of her 50 movies in a more than three decade career, her recent films are getting some of their lowest critical ratings since she first went into comedy in the early 1990's. To be fair, the criticism of this film is mostly not aimed at Meryl Streep's acting, but the writing and directing.
Of course, Mama Mia, her most financially successful film of her career, got many bad reviews.
1979 | 98% | Manhattan |
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1991 | 96% | Defending Your Life |
2009 | 93% | Fantastic Mr. Fox |
1988 | 92% | Evil Angels (A Cry in the Dark) |
2002 | 91% | Adaptation |
1978 | 91% | The Deer Hunter |
1995 | 90% | The Bridges of Madison County |
1990 | 90% | Postcards from the Edge |
1998 | 89% | One True Thing |
1979 | 88% | Kramer vs. Kramer |
2006 | 85% | Hurricane on the Bayou |
1996 | 81% | Marvin's Room |
2004 | 81% | The Manchurian Candidate |
1982 | 81% | Sophie's Choice |
2006 | 81% | A Prairie Home Companion |
2002 | 81% | The Hours |
1981 | 80% | The French Lieutenant's Woman |
2008 | 78% | Doubt |
2006 | 76% | The Devil Wears Prada |
2009 | 75% | Julie & Julia |
1977 | 74% | Julia |
2001 | 73% | A.I. Artificial Intelligence |
2004 | 72% | Lemony Snicket's A Series of Unfortunate Events |
1985 | 71% | Plenty |
1983 | 70% | Silkwood |
2006 | 70% | Wrestling With Angels: Playwright Tony Kushner |
1982 | 67% | Still of the Night |
2008 | 67% | Theater of War |
1987 | 65% | Ironweed |
1986 | 64% | Heartburn |
1985 | 63% | Out of Africa |
2006 | 63% | The Ant Bully |
1998 | 63% | Dancing at Lughnasa |
1999 | 62% | Music of the Heart |
2003 | 60% | Stuck On You |
1984 | 60% | Falling in Love |
2005 | 58% | Stolen Childhoods |
2009 | 56% | It's Complicated |
1994 | 54% | The River Wild |
2011 | 54% | The Iron Lady |
2008 | 53% | Mamma Mia! |
1992 | 50% | Death Becomes Her |
2005 | 50% | Prime |
2007 | 46% | Rendition |
1993 | 44% | The House of the Spirits |
1989 | 41% | She-Devil |
2007 | 39% | Dark Matter |
1996 | 32% | Before and After |
2007 | 27% | Evening |
2007 | 26% | Lions for Lambs |
Quote: WizardMy opinion of Meryl Streep in general is the same as Robert De Niro -- great actors who I wish were pickier about the movies they choose to do.
I think that there's a BIG difference between Streep and De Niro. Streep picks roles that she wants to do, and doesn't have nearly the list of duds that De Niro does. 17 Oscar nominations vs. 6 (De Niro's total) is a good indication. I don't take a LOT of stock in nominations, as most are skewed and unfair, but a 3:1 disparity is significant enough to me.
Quote: TiltpoulI think that there's a BIG difference between Streep and De Niro. Streep picks roles that she wants to do, and doesn't have nearly the list of duds that De Niro does. 17 Oscar nominations vs. 6 (De Niro's total) is a good indication. I don't take a LOT of stock in nominations, as most are skewed and unfair, but a 3:1 disparity is significant enough to me.
Fair point. Maybe I was too harsh on Meryl.
Quote: WizardMy opinion of Meryl Streep in general is the same as Robert De Niro -- great actors who I wish were pickier about the movies they choose to do.
The wider question is why do so many great talents end up making bad movies? I saw De Niro get an award once, and his speech was interesting. He wished people in the audience would see some of his performances that he was most proud of, but the movie was a flop. I assume he wasn't talking about the Focker movies, which seemed to be all about making him a mountain of money for retirement.
Quote: TiltpoulI think that there's a BIG difference between Streep and De Niro. Streep picks roles that she wants to do, and doesn't have nearly the list of duds that De Niro does. 17 Oscar nominations vs. 6 (De Niro's total) is a good indication. I don't take a LOT of stock in nominations, as most are skewed and unfair, but a 3:1 disparity is significant enough to me.
I think you're right, but I also think that the general perception of the two is that they are equal. This may be gender bias, it may be because of the searing power of De Niro's best performances; I don't know. But I think both points are correct, that Streep has had a more productive career, and that they are perceived as equals.
Quote: pacomartinThe wider question is why do so many great talents end up making bad movies? I saw De Niro get an award once, and his speech was interesting. He wished people in the audience would see some of his performances that he was most proud of, but the movie was a flop. I assume he wasn't talking about the Focker movies, which seemed to be all about making him a mountain of money for retirement.
I think I can forgive De Niro the Fockers movies. While they are not my favorite genre, I do enjoy them. And why shouldnt he have a big pile of cash for retirement? I think he has earned it. Even when the movie he is in is a flop, his performance is always first rate. FWIW I have no interest in the Iron Lady movie, but it hasnt gone down too well here from what I am hearing.