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December 22nd, 2011 at 11:49:07 PM permalink
Wizard
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Quote: Keyser
However, if you date a woman that is NOT on the pill, then it's very possible that her pheromones will rewire your brain in a very short period of time.


Maybe this is just an urban legend, but I heard or read somewhere that strippers make the most money when they are in their most fertile point in their ovulation cycle. The theory being that men somehow sense/smell this and shower them with more money. Doc?
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December 23rd, 2011 at 3:52:27 AM permalink
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Quote: Wizard
Maybe this is just an urban legend, but I heard or read somewhere that strippers make the most money when they are in their most fertile point in their ovulation cycle. The theory being that men somehow sense/smell this and shower them with more money. Doc?


I believe that was in the book Freakonomics
December 23rd, 2011 at 4:36:55 AM permalink
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Quote: MarieBicurie
Or you could just get a vasectomy and just omit the fact. You get back that 90% of the market, and you get to TRY like crazy. You can thank me later!


I'd have no problem getting one. Actually gave it a very cursory look, found some if not many urologists refuse to perform the procedure on younger guys (which I no longer am.) Also wondered about the "it didn't take" thing. Not sure if that is real or a soap-opera invention. I have heard there is a reversable procedure and an irreversible one. I do know one guy who had one and had another kid with a second wife after.
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December 23rd, 2011 at 4:52:38 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Keyser
Regarding not wanting to have kids. It's very strange when you find just the right woman. I felt the same way as you did, until I met my wife. She must have hit a chemical trigger in the form of pheromones....etc that triggered a response in my brain that made me want to actually have kids. Before, with others I never wanted to have kids. It was just with her. Women are far more powerful than you realize.



Perhaps the right one will come along, or maybe I missed her already, and change my interest in being in a relationship-something I have given up on as I stated. But the kid thing, that would be some woman. It isn't that I never wanted to have them, it is that always DIDN'T want to have any. Some people can't wait; some accept whatever happens; some like you change their mind with the right person. I seriously can't see it with me as I have one of those all-on-logic/very unemotional personality types. I am one of the people eHarmony.com told to go elsewhere as they could not match me.

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Going deeper. If the women you date are on the pill, then it's very likely that you will never have the response that I had. As long as a woman is on the pill, the pheromones that she releases will enable you to remain in control. However, if you date a woman that is NOT on the pill, then it's very possible that her pheromones will rewire your brain in a very short period of time. You will also find that you will have a stronger attraction toward the women that are NOT on the pill. And FYI, there is some supporting information available on the internet regarding male response and the use of the pill.


This I totally buy. Phermones are way more powerful than people understand. Not just in physical attraction, either. I was at a sales management training one time and the guy said if you wouldn't buy the product, people will key in on the phermone you are giving off and not trust you and probably not buy. The salesman will never know why this is happening. I do remember nights when I went on the prowl with an "I don't care" attitude women would come to me far more often than a "night on a mission."

Back in my termite and pest control days they told us all about phermones in nature, they are powerful stuff there. Humans are part of nature, we just don't follow it manytimes.
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December 23rd, 2011 at 6:31:35 AM permalink
Doc
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Quote: Wizard
Maybe this is just an urban legend, but I heard or read somewhere that strippers make the most money when they are in their most fertile point in their ovulation cycle. The theory being that men somehow sense/smell this and shower them with more money. Doc?
Waaaaay out of my field, but I am very skeptical of that theory. If there really is a genuine increase in revenue during that anti-period (and if it is related to the ovulation cycle), I suspect it is more likely due to some kind of resulting changes in the performance that is given than some innate perceptive skill of the customer.

I haven't read Freakonomics, so maybe they have an explanation I haven't considered.
December 24th, 2011 at 12:23:12 PM permalink
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Quote: Wizard
Maybe this is just an urban legend, but I heard or read somewhere that strippers make the most money when they are in their most fertile point in their ovulation cycle. The theory being that men somehow sense/smell this and shower them with more money. Doc?


Quote: Doc
Waaaaay out of my field, but I am very skeptical of that theory. If there really is a genuine increase in revenue during that anti-period (and if it is related to the ovulation cycle), I suspect it is more likely due to some kind of resulting changes in the performance that is given than some innate perceptive skill of the customer.



Source: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704681904576313243579677316.html

"The females given the contraceptive became overall less appealing to the males than before getting the injection, says Christine Drea, a professor in Duke's evolutionary anthropology department and senior author on the study. The contraceptive erased all the normal information the odor signals conveyed, she says.

Though the study would need to be conducted in humans to draw direct conclusions, there are potential parallels to people, Dr. Drea says. Birth control "could be mixing up your own [signals] and others aren't smelling the real you," she says."



Source: http://abcnews.go.com/Health/MindMoodNews/birth-control-change-human-attraction-study-claims/story?id=8772136

"Men, meanwhile, have been found to be more attracted to women during the time of the month when they are most fertile. One study of exotic dancers published last year suggested that those who were not on the pill would see a rise in their tips around the time they reached peak fertility."
December 24th, 2011 at 1:46:28 PM permalink
belleepoque
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Quote: EvenBob
I don't mind wearing mine, its a simple thing, why not.
I would never cheat on my wife in a million years anyway,
even if I wanted to. Cheaters are scum, I don't like being
scum.

I didnt see the origin of this thread but its interesting how you segued into cheating when the question is do u wear a wedding ring, not if you don't wear one are you thinking of cheating. I know alot of men who dont like to wear them because of the work they do and it's a pain to take them off and keep them secure....my ex had to scrub in for surgery and woukd tie it to his scrubs but he still lost it.

I wouldnt assume that a man who doesnt wear a wedding ring is wanting to cheat but more preference of not wearing any jewelry. I say doth protest too much Evenbob....nothing was said about cheating vs. Wedding ring....you were quite vocal about the cheating topic in my thread even when i prefaced my thread with knowing i was very wrong and asking for compassionate advice.We get it. U think cheaters are scum. My observation is you seem fairly self righteous....as if you dont ever make mistakes or decisions that are less than perfect.
Maybe you are just highly judgmental....or maybe the topic hits close to home. Who knows but my guess from reading your posts it's the former.
December 24th, 2011 at 1:54:33 PM permalink
Doc
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Keyser, thank you for the additional information. To express my thoughts, I might repeat my entire previous post, but for now just say I'm still very skeptical.

Your first quotation refers to research on lemurs, not humans. The same article has a related comment about humans:
Quote: the cited wsj article
Women tend to exhibit subtle cues when they are ovulating, and men tend to find them more attractive at this time. Women try to look more attractive, perhaps by wearing tighter or more revealing clothing, says Martie Haselton, a communications and psychology professor at the University of California, Los Angeles.
I read this as supporting my earlier suggestion that ovulation likely leads to changes in the "performance" -- in the case in the article, to wearing "tighter or more revealing clothing." I don't see it as suggesting (human) men are able to sniff out ovulation and would explicitly find that condition to be enough more attractive that they would toke the strippers more. (No, I have no idea how an ovulating stripper changes a performance to get better tokes. If I did, I might try to sell that info to strippers; surely a "natural" performance change could be faked.)
December 24th, 2011 at 1:59:55 PM permalink
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I wonder if maybe the stripper effect is seen because women are just nicer during ovulation. They certainly can be the opposite of nice at other times of the month.
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December 24th, 2011 at 2:05:58 PM permalink
EvenBob
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Quote: Wizard
They certainly can be the opposite of nice at other times of the month.


An understatement if there ever was one. The thing
with women is, you never know what's going to set
them off next. When I was young, I read the best
women are are on TV and in movies, and in books
written by men. Thats because they aren't real, its
the authors fantasy of what women should be like,
not what they're really like. I'll take the company of
men any day, women wear me down, their brains
work in a totally different way than ours.
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