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Casinos don't cheat.....prove it.
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| August 30th, 2010 at 5:28:19 PM permalink | |
| mkl654321 Member since: Aug 8, 2010 Threads: 65 Posts: 3412 |
The above statement makes the rather large attendant presumption that the cheating will be detected, coupled with the even larger presumption that said cheating will be exposed for all to see even if one person DOES manage to detect it. As I've said elsewhere, I have been cheated many times, often rather blatantly, and there was, as a practical matter, nothing I could do about it. And even mentioning it casually to anyone else provoked the same knee-jerk response: "Why would they cheat you? They always win anyway!!!!!!" LOL, and puke. To give you a noncasino example, most new car dealers charge for "dealer prep" and "undercoating", amounting to hundreds of dollars, even though the "dealer prep" consists of spraying the interior with air freshener and the "undercoating" is nonexistent. This has been going on for decades. Those car dealers are still in business. 'Nuff said. The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one. The happiness of credulity is a cheap and dangerous quality.---George Bernard Shaw |
| August 30th, 2010 at 5:51:06 PM permalink | |
| Headlock Member since: Feb 9, 2010 Threads: 14 Posts: 249 |
I don't know that I made a silly comment about casinos cheating. I do think your poor spelling, punctuation and grammar is silly. Your comment that casinos don't have to cheat to win is silly. The house edge doesn't equate to profit. The 1.41% HA on an empty craps table with 4 employees is not generating a profit. |
| August 30th, 2010 at 6:01:08 PM permalink | |
| TheNightfly Member since: May 21, 2010 Threads: 22 Posts: 405 |
Once again mlk, you've shown your ignorance by making a claim you can't possibly back up and posting it with the mistaken belief that because it's been posted by you, not only is it true but that others will believe you. Having sold cards for 4 years, I can tell you that dealer prep is more than simply spraying the interior with air freshener. The car must be thoroughly cleaned inside and out and it must pass a basic inspection (fluids and such). Undercoating that is nonexistent would immediately be noticed by any customer who simply crouches down to see clean, bare metal on the underside of their car. To suggest that "most new car dealers" charge for undercoating that has not been applied and for simply spraying the interior of a new car with air freshener is foolish, childish and unsubstantiated; very similar to many of your claims made in this thread. I no longer sell cars so I couldn't care less if someone slags the industry... but at least make a somewhat intelligent and educated remark. You are apparently a very angry person who likes to use a thesaurus and has found an outlet for your vitriol. I am making these observations and comments myself because it's a shame to see this website used by those who have nothing constructive or substantive to add to the conversation. Happiness is underrated |
| August 30th, 2010 at 6:16:13 PM permalink | |
| SanchoPanza Member since: May 10, 2010 Threads: 24 Posts: 736 |
Thanks for the URL. If this first tasting of the material is typical, it could hold a trove of scenes like this one for a movie, a book, a TV series. Who could dream up this one? (Page 4) Baccarat shenanigans |
| August 30th, 2010 at 6:17:37 PM permalink | |
| SanchoPanza Member since: May 10, 2010 Threads: 24 Posts: 736 |
That would be a sight to see. |
| August 30th, 2010 at 6:23:02 PM permalink | |
| Nareed Member since: Nov 11, 2009 Threads: 218 Posts: 7296 |
Of course they have them at the craps table. I've seen them at every BJ table in Vegas, well, every open one. The device is called "the dealer's eyes," and they identify chip value by color. They can tell when a player raises or lowers a bet, too. Amazing stuff. This space is closed for remodeling |
| August 30th, 2010 at 6:24:36 PM permalink | |
| cclub79 Member since: Dec 16, 2009 Threads: 26 Posts: 939 | I try to be diplomatic, but even I realized that he got his info on undercoating from an old Seinfeld episode: JERRY: Alright, alright. Alright, that’s enough! Let’s get back to my deal. That undercoating, that’s just a rip-off, isn’t it, David? PUDDY: Oh, we don’t even know what it is. Undercoating is increasingly more important the more you drive on gravel or stone surfaces. It's also usually an option that if you absolutely don't want, you can get a model without it. Plus it's listed on the sticker. You are being told you are paying for it, and can not buy the car if you don't want to. That's not cheating. Cheating is they sell you the car and tell the loan company to bill you for $1000 more. Dealer prep is the house edge. Everyone can see it and knows it. It's not hidden. It might not be blantantly advertised what it really is, but neither is the 10%+ edge on Snake Eyes. |
| August 30th, 2010 at 6:26:48 PM permalink | |
| TheNightfly Member since: May 21, 2010 Threads: 22 Posts: 405 | And mlk's snappy rejoinder is... Happiness is underrated |
| August 30th, 2010 at 6:58:08 PM permalink | |
| mkl654321 Member since: Aug 8, 2010 Threads: 65 Posts: 3412 |
Somehow, I think that you're biased, having engaged in the noble profession of auto dealership yourself. The undercoating scam is usually confined to areas that have severe cold weather. In the desert southwest, they try to charge you for window tinting. In any case, many new car dealers are crooks and thieves, a remark I will stand behind. From upselling pointless extended warranties to tacking on overpriced options, America's car dealers have made the process of buying a car thoroughly unpleasant. And by the way, I held a car dealer's license for TEN years (though it was not my primary business). And I don't even own a thesaurus. I have an extensive vocabulary, and I use it, like any other tool. That evidently bothers you, perhaps because when reading my posts, you need frequent recourse to a dictionary. Whether I am "very angry" or my comments bring "nothing constructive or substantive" are value judgments, which you are sadly ill-equipped to make. The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one. The happiness of credulity is a cheap and dangerous quality.---George Bernard Shaw |
| August 30th, 2010 at 6:58:53 PM permalink | |
| mkl654321 Member since: Aug 8, 2010 Threads: 65 Posts: 3412 |
To whom? The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one. The happiness of credulity is a cheap and dangerous quality.---George Bernard Shaw |
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