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January 4th, 2019 at 8:50:34 AM permalink
I still have a hour left on my edit but thanks for doing it Babs. I copy and paste the header so I format it correct and sometimes I forget to edit it.
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January 4th, 2019 at 10:27:24 AM permalink
PG, thanks for the Casino di Venezia story! That venue was my only European casino visit (not counting the Frankfurt airport) during my honeymoon in the early 2000s. I didn’t know at the time that it was the oldest (continuously running?) casino in the world.

I don’t remember using jetons there. And at the time I didn’t have the wherewithal to save a chip or sneak a photo while inside (of course, my camera was huge). It’s a nice-looking chip. Now I wished I saved one, though I don’t remember it looking like that.

I thought it was weird that the blackjack dealer doesn’t deal a hole card and being upset that my splits/double downs were defeated when the dealer drew a winning card. I guess it’s only a few percentage points against the player, but I do recall getting stung by it.

Were there still mostly roulette tables?
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PG, thanks for the Casino di Venezia story! That venue was my only European casino visit (not counting the Frankfurt airport) during my honeymoon in the early 2000s. I didn’t know at the time that it was the oldest (continuously running?) casino in the world.

I don’t remember using jetons there. And at the time I didn’t have the wherewithal to save a chip or sneak a photo while inside (of course, my camera was huge). It’s a nice-looking chip. Now I wished I saved one, though I don’t remember it looking like that.

I thought it was weird that the blackjack dealer doesn’t deal a hole card and being upset that my splits/double downs were defeated when the dealer drew a winning card. I guess it’s only a few percentage points against the player, but I do recall getting stung by it.

Were there still mostly roulette tables?



Ok so as far as the chips, Casino Di Venezia used regular chips at some point as per MoGH. When I was there they strictly used the jetons.

As for the games offered. If my memory is any good and it’s not usually, they had 2 baccarat, 2 BJ, 2 carnival poker games and I think 4 roulette tables that were massive and each manned by multiple dealers each.

The BJ rules go back and forth depending on what country you’re in. Hell my home casino deals double deck bj without a hole card and the shoe games with a hole card.

I’m glad you enjoyed the write up.
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January 4th, 2019 at 4:19:50 PM permalink
Lol! Maybe Doc is right PG; I should forget about collecting or else I'll drive my family crazy. There you were in one of the world's most famous cities and you're getting your basic "Venetian Tourist 101" information from the pictures on casino chips. Meanwhile, you matter-of-factly report that the Venizia has 55 table games and 242 slot machines. People who read and write posts on a website like this will know exactly where you're coming from. No one else will.

Psst... If, at your next family get together, someone asks about your trip to Venice, tell them that the architecture and the canals are beautiful. Don't tell them that it just reminded you of a bigger version of the resort on the Vegas Strip. [wink] Got your back Jack.
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January 4th, 2019 at 5:52:51 PM permalink
Quote: Gialmere

Lol! Maybe Doc is right PG; I should forget about collecting or else I'll drive my family crazy. There you were in one of the world's most famous cities and you're getting your basic "Venetian Tourist 101" information from the pictures on casino chips. Meanwhile, you matter-of-factly report that the Venizia has 55 table games and 242 slot machines. People who read and write posts on a website like this will know exactly where you're coming from. No one else will.

Psst... If, at your next family get together, someone asks about your trip to Venice, tell them that the architecture and the canals are beautiful. Don't tell them that it just reminded you of a bigger version of the resort on the Vegas Strip. [wink] Got your back Jack.



I’m not actually sure what this post means. I only told you about my time at the casino. I spent 2.5 days exploring Venice, it’s architecture and it’s food.
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January 4th, 2019 at 6:23:46 PM permalink
Sorry. Tongue-in-cheek. You actually discuss the only thing I'd be interested in if I visited (which makes me question my own fanaticism).

By the way, how were the crowds? I was reading that they now limit the number of people allowed in because it's overflowing with tourists.
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January 4th, 2019 at 6:38:02 PM permalink
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Sorry. Tongue-in-cheek. You actually discuss the only thing I'd be interested in if I visited (which makes me question my own fanaticism).

By the way, how were the crowds? I was reading that they now limit the number of people allowed in because it's overflowing with tourists.


Venice or the casino? Casino was not busy, Venice on the other hand was crazy. Tourists absolutely everywhere!
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January 4th, 2019 at 7:16:40 PM permalink
Category: Europe
City: Sanremo, Italy
Casino: Casino di Sanremo


Today's chip of the day is from Casino di Sanremo in Sanremo, Italy. I visited this casino on a day trip from Nice. I took a train for about a hour to Sanremo and spent a half day there before slowly making my way back to Nice. The casino in Sanremo is huge and in a beautiful old building. The casino has many different parts, the first one is the slots area through the main door off the lobby and straight past security. I played a few slots in here that were vulturable, actually this casino had the most vulturable games I saw in Europe by a long shot. From the main slots room the staircase takes you upstairs to the smoking slot section (closed off by doors to keep the smoke in) which again had some slots that I pulled a few bucks off of. I then exited the upstairs slot area by going down the staircase which took me back to the main lobby just inside the casino. I took the other staircase up that took me to the table game section and poker room.

Casino City says that there are 433 slots and 38 table games. I assume that the tables include the massive poker room because I think the table game count was closer to 20. I played €5 BJ but they made me play two hands when I was playing alone, I'm not sure why. Between BJ and the slots I vultured I won about €90. The casino had an advertisement for a poker series they were running later that month where the main event was only €115 or something like that, all the tourneys that they were offering were exceptionally small. I spent the next couple hours walking around the town square, eating gelato (twice) and eventually I grabbed take out rigatoni with sausage and Chinese broccoli that I ate while I waited for my train. The restaurant didn't have take out forks so they gave me two swizzle sticks that I used like chopsticks.

The chip is white with 8 red edge inserts. The centre inlay is silver with the casino logo in gold and the casino name and chip denomination around the inlay in black. The manufacturer's mark "BG" is on the bottom of the inlay. The logo to me looks to be a lion with a crown leaning up against or climbing a weird umbrella thing. (Feel free to tell me what it really is). The other side of the chip has the same logo but slightly bigger with the denomination over top of the logo. The casino location is off to the bottom left.





This ends my brief dive into Italian casinos. There were 4 casinos when I collected these chips and one recently closed so I have posted 2/3 of the available Italian chips. Tomorrow we move onto France!
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January 4th, 2019 at 10:31:44 PM permalink
You said,

The logo to me looks to be a lion with a crown leaning up against or climbing a weird umbrella thing. (Feel free to tell me what it really is).

According to wiki, that is the emblem of the municipality of SanRemo, and you were very close. It's a lion, wearing a crown, with 3 paws on the trunk of a palm tree.

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January 6th, 2019 at 12:04:47 AM permalink
Category: Europe
City: Juan-Les Pins, France
Casino: Eden Casino


Today's chip of the day is from Eden Casino in Juan-Les Pins, France. I arrived in Nice from Venice, had some paella and a nap before I headed out on my casino collecting ventures. The first casino that I visited in the south of France was Eden Casino in Juan-Les Pins. I took the train to the Juan-Les Pins stop and google mapped my way to the casino. The casino had 4 tables probably in the neighborhood of 100 slots. I played a little bit of video poker because I am a sucker for those old machines that spit out coins. I then played BJ and after all my gambling I lost €1 at Eden Casino after keeping my €5 souvenir.

The chip is red with 6 white edge inserts. The denomination appears twice around the centre inlay and there are also what looks like bear claw marks on the sides of the inlay. The centre inlay is black with all writing in gold. The inlay lists the casino name, location, chip denomination and the makers mark. (BG) The other side of the chip has a slightly different inlay with the casino ownership group listed instead of the casino and the location.



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January 6th, 2019 at 2:08:01 AM permalink
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Category: Europe
City: Sanremo, Italy
Casino: Casino di Sanremo


Today's chip of the day is from Casino di Sanremo in Sanremo, Italy. I visited this casino on a day trip from Nice. I took a train for about a hour to Sanremo and spent a half day there before slowly making my way back to Nice. The casino in Sanremo is huge and in a beautiful old building.



PG, you were too quick on the draw in bringing us to France! Thanks for taking our imaginations into the Casino di Sanremo!

I had insisted my at-the-time fiancee that we visit Bellagio, Italy on our honeymoon because we'd been to the Las Vegas version. Though I'd visited Hotel San Remo (before it became Hooters), it never occurred to me that Sanremo was also an Italian city.

My only input on the Las Vegas version is that it had a pretty good little sushi bar, and was easily accessible from the Tropicana and MGM Grand area.

Would love to visit the real Sanremo some day!
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January 6th, 2019 at 10:44:42 AM permalink
That’s funny cause I didn’t know Bellagio was a place in Italy until you just mentioned it. I google mapped it to see where it is.

I actually knew Hooters used to be Sanremo but I forgot mostly because that is before my time. I never visited that casino so I didn’t make the connection to my visit there in Italy.
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January 6th, 2019 at 2:41:42 PM permalink
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That’s funny cause I didn’t know Bellagio was a place in Italy until you just mentioned it. I google mapped it to see where it is.



There are no casinos in Bellagio—at least we didn't see any. It's a very small town. But very relaxing to visit. Not too many tourists. We saw a movie at the only cinema and didn't understand a word, but still enjoyed it!
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January 6th, 2019 at 3:45:07 PM permalink
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There are no casinos in Bellagio—at least we didn't see any. It's a very small town. But very relaxing to visit. Not too many tourists. We saw a movie at the only cinema and didn't understand a word, but still enjoyed it!


No there isn’t a casino there. That’s neat, I learn new things in this thread all the time.
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January 6th, 2019 at 6:06:37 PM permalink
Category: Europe
City: Cannes, France
Casino: Casino Barriere Les Princes


Today's chip of the day is from Casino Barriere les Princes in Cannes, France. I struggled a little bit (for both this thread and my own list) as to what I should call these Barriere casinos. I settled on listing them as Barriere "blah blah" for each one but feel free to give me your opinion. This was the first casino that I visited in Cannes after I took the train over from Juan-Les Pins. This is the high limit casino, the BJ was €25 minimum, Ultimate Texas Holdem was €15 minimum and the roulette was €5 inside and €25 outside. I played one hand of UTH, won €45 before leaving with my chip. The pit boss told me to go to their Barriere sister property down the street for lower limits.

The chip is dark red with 3 yellow edge inserts. The centre inlay is white with a gold logo that looks like the pearly gates. The casino name and the manufacturer's logo are black while the denomination is gold with a black outline over top of the logo.

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January 6th, 2019 at 7:37:14 PM permalink
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City: Cannes, France
Casino: Casino Barriere Les Princes


... I settled on listing them as Barriere "blah blah" for each one but feel free to give me your opinion.


At least once before I have admitted just how bad my almost-non-existent French is. This time I will make only two comments:

(1) As for a different name for the casino (without seeing the other name yet), I could only suggest adding the grave accent mark, as in "Barrière", though that might not come through properly on everyone's computers, and

(2) Even though I know "Barrière" means something like "fence" or maybe something like the gate shown on the chip, when I see the expression "Barrière les Princes" I can only come up with something like "Bare rears of the princes" as if there is some pervert on the scene, gazing at the "Cannes" of two royal tykes.

Perhaps it's just the similarity to "derrière".
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January 7th, 2019 at 11:08:51 PM permalink
No chip today, I’m tired and taking a lazy day. I did however finish booking my upcoming trip. The plans are Colombia, Peru, Bolivia, Chile and finishing up with 5 days in Aruba. I will be doing 4 weeks with two friends in the first three countries before they go home and I spend two weeks traveling solo.

As far as chip collecting, 10-12 in Colombia depending on which casinos use the same chips or not. 9 in Peru, 3 in Chile and 11-12 in Aruba. Bolivia has no casinos.
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January 8th, 2019 at 5:22:52 PM permalink
Category: Europe
City: Cannes, France
Casino: Casino 3.14


Today's chip of the day is from Casino 3.14 in Cannes, France. I will just start off by saying I was very disappointed that all signs in the casino said Casino 3.14 but the chips didn't. This was the chip I was looking forward to the most because of the awesome name. This casino was on the smaller side with 75 slots and 11 tables. It was neat that about half the casino including 4 tables were in a room with an open ceiling which made it feel like you were outside. Two walls were also able to be opened like windows. I played roulette to get my chip as the BJ min €20 and then I played a little VP before heading out.

Back to the disappointing chip...

The chip is red with 6 white edge inserts. There are alternating denominations and bear claw marks around the inlay. The centre inlay is black with gold writing. On one side the inlay says Casino Cannes, the denomination and the manufacturers mark. The other side has the casino ownership group instead of the casino name.



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January 8th, 2019 at 6:57:36 PM permalink
What is the story behind the name? Did they intend for it to be Pi themed, or is it in reference to the historic events of March 14?... Which I don’t know of off hand? Hehe
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January 8th, 2019 at 8:25:12 PM permalink
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What is the story behind the name? Did they intend for it to be Pi themed, or is it in reference to the historic events of March 14?... Which I don’t know of off hand? Hehe


Hotel that the casino is attached to is called hotel 3.14. The casino was Palm Beach casino but that casino closed years ago. This is all I know.
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January 9th, 2019 at 5:55:57 PM permalink
A boring inlay. Compare it to Casino Barriere les Princes. Jesus wept. On the other hand, this one is easier to read.
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January 9th, 2019 at 9:15:21 PM permalink
Category: Europe
City: Cannes, France
Casino: Casino Barriere Cannes Croisette


Today's chip of the day is from Casino Barriere Cannes Croisette in Cannes, France. This was the third and final casino I visited in Cannes on what turned out to be an extremely long night but I'll get to that later. I arrived at the train station in Cannes around 10:30 pm and asked the worker what time the trains run until. His response was that they run every 30 minutes to which I asked if they run all night and he said yes. Fast forward past my first two casino stops to Casino Barriere Cannes Croisette where I played BJ and vultured a few slot machines. The casino was the biggest of the three in Cannes with a full room of slots and another full of 15 or so tables. They also had a poker room that wasn't open. I left around 1 am and headed to the train station. When I arrived the station was closed and there were no more trains. I found out that the next train back to Nice wasn't until 5:17 am, clearly that guy didn't understand what I was asking him. I went back to the casino to waste some time but they closed at 2. I still had nothing to do after 2 and I ended up losing money on my return visit to this casino.

I then proceeded to walk on the sidewalk that looked down on the beaches of Cannes. I found a guy sifting the sand on a private beach, making it all pretty and taking the footprints out of it. I found this beyond amusing, only rich would people would expect this. The machine reminded me of a zamboni that cleans the ice after each period in hockey. I called my mom for a while and we laughed about the predicament that I had gotten myself in. Eventually around 3 I headed back to the station and plunked myself down on a chair to watch Netflix on my phone. I eventually got back to Nice around 6 am and got some sleep.

The chip is turquoise with 3 what I am going to call orange edge inserts. The centre inlay is white with the gold pearly gates looking logo that we saw a few days ago. The casino name is black and the denomination is gold with a black border. The other side of the chip is the same.

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January 9th, 2019 at 11:09:58 PM permalink
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Category: Europe
City: Cannes, France
Casino: Casino Barriere Cannes Croisette

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The chip is turquoise with 3 what I am going to call orange edge inserts. The centre inlay is white with the gold pearly gates looking logo that we saw a few days ago. The casino name is black and the denomination is gold with a black border. The other side of the chip is the same.



I'm going to say the chip is turquoise and coral because

A. You're gambling next to the Mediterranean. Those are colors of the sea. Turquoise waters, coral reefs.

B. I'm in the mood to start a meaningless controversy. "Is the dress black and blue"? "Yanni or Laurel"? Who gives a ....?
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January 10th, 2019 at 10:02:48 AM permalink
It looks more orange in person but not like a vibrant orange.

Also it says Laurel and the dress is gold lol.
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January 10th, 2019 at 5:16:57 PM permalink
Category: Europe
City: Nice, France
Casino: Casino du Palais De La Mediterranee


Today's chip of the day is from Casino du Palais De La Mediterranee in Nice, France. I seemed to have kept really bad records for this casino so I don't have much to share. I think I played BJ and judging by the fact that I was up €17, I am going to say it was a €5 minimum. Casino City lists 220 slots and 19 table games which seems about right based on my terrible memory. I visited this casino at night after my day visit to Monte Carlo.

The chip is the standard chip from this area. It is red with 6 white edge inserts. The denomination and weird bear claw thing is around the inlay twice each. The centre inlay is black with the casino name, location, denomination and manufacturer's mark all in gold. The other side has the casino owner group instead of the casino name and location.



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January 10th, 2019 at 9:14:02 PM permalink
Been thinking about something. In this thread's index, if I wanted to list the chip for the Gold Strike Casino, I would just list it as "Gold Strike" without the final "Casino". It doesn't seem necessary.

Then there are the cases for which "Casino" appears at the beginning of the name. In our index for Nevada, we have three: Casino 93, Casino Royale, and Casino West. If I don't include "Casino" in each of those names, it definitely feels as if something is missing.

Then, when we get to international locations and languages other than English, the "Casino" part of the name is much more commonly at the first. Even before I add this latest chip posted by PG, we already have eleven chips just from Europe listed as "Casino de Somethingorother."

Should I change the way I have been doing this? Should PG's latest chip be indexed just as "Palais De La Mediterranee", as it says on the chip? In some though not all cases, it still seems necessary to have "Casino de" (or "du" or "di") stuck on there.

I'm seeking your thoughts on this.
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January 10th, 2019 at 9:30:40 PM permalink
I usually just think it should go how it sounds. Some of the casinos need the “casino” to sound proper. For Palais de la Mediterranee I think it sounds fine without the “casino”. With this approach though consistency gets thrown out the window.
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January 10th, 2019 at 11:26:05 PM permalink
I thought that the convention of listing them in the index with the name as it appears on the chip was sound. It makes it convenient for folks to look up a place with the information in front of them.

Cross listing is also a possibility to consider. There’s no rule stipulating one index entry per chip. The goal is to be user friendly.
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January 11th, 2019 at 8:31:28 AM permalink
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Been thinking about something. In this thread's index, if I wanted to list the chip for the Gold Strike Casino, I would just list it as "Gold Strike" without the final "Casino". It doesn't seem necessary.

Then there are the cases for which "Casino" appears at the beginning of the name. In our index for Nevada, we have three: Casino 93, Casino Royale, and Casino West. If I don't include "Casino" in each of those names, it definitely feels as if something is missing.

Then, when we get to international locations and languages other than English, the "Casino" part of the name is much more commonly at the first. Even before I add this latest chip posted by PG, we already have eleven chips just from Europe listed as "Casino de Somethingorother."

Should I change the way I have been doing this? Should PG's latest chip be indexed just as "Palais De La Mediterranee", as it says on the chip? In some though not all cases, it still seems necessary to have "Casino de" (or "du" or "di") stuck on there.

I'm seeking your thoughts on this.



My first thought is, on any it seems optional, list the name, then a comma, then "Casino" or "Casino de" or whatever the name is. I agree that "Royale, Casino" is awkward, and it the like should stay "Casino Royale".

Perhaps in the index key you might note you're doing this, but it should seem self-evident after a moment using the index.
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January 11th, 2019 at 9:08:51 AM permalink
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I thought that the convention of listing them in the index with the name as it appears on the chip was sound.


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For Palais de la Mediterranee I think it sounds fine without the “casino”. With this approach though consistency gets thrown out the window.


For this particular chip, I think I will go with the shorter name. And yes, I sometimes have difficulty keeping consistent. As for the previous chips from Europe, I think that "Empire" and the "Barrière" casinos might be OK in the shortened version also, but I won't change them now on my own. The others seem to need the leading "Casino".

With regard to Ayecarumba's comment that, "There’s no rule stipulating one index entry per chip" -- Man, it's a mess to keep that index straight as it is! Then to keep the correct count of chips in each category and total number of casinos, etc., etc. -- no, I don't think I'm going to list places twice. I think one issue for the thread is that if I choose to abbreviate the name by leaving "Casino" out but the poster has included it in the post header, someone could be misled along the way.

Not that many folks really look at the index anyway, I suppose. I remember one member who joined the thread somewhere along the way and then was absolutely shocked when I pointed him back to the beginning, to the explanation of how this all started, what it was supposed to be about, and the index there.
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January 11th, 2019 at 1:30:43 PM permalink
Category: Europe
City: Nice, France
Casino: Casino Barriere Le Ruhl


Today's chip of the day is from Casino Barriere Le Ruhl in Nice, France. I left Casino Palais De Mediterranee and walked the ten minutes to Casino Barriere Le Ruhl. I stopped on the way and had some gelato, the good thing about still being so close to Italy is lots of good gelato. I found online that they have 300 slots and 16 tables/poker games which seems about right. I got to the casino and checked the slots for any plays before heading downstairs where the table games and poker room were. I put my name on the list for poker but 45 minutes later my name hadn't moved one spot so I didn't bother playing. I played BJ at a table where one guy was better two spots between €150 and €500 per spot. He cashed out just over €4000, I managed to win €47!

The chip is red with 6 white edge inserts. The casino name and location is present around the inlay in a style that makes it look like stenciling. The centre inlay is white with the casino name and location in black and the denomination is gold with a black border.

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January 11th, 2019 at 7:41:06 PM permalink
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Casino: Casino Barriere Le Ruhl

Continuing my earlier quandary about names in the index, I'm going to list this one as just plain "Ruhl", since there is no mention of that Barrière business on the chip and not even any gate shown like on the other Barrière chips. Does this work?
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January 11th, 2019 at 7:55:09 PM permalink
Lol randomness for the win!
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January 12th, 2019 at 9:11:34 PM permalink
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Lol randomness for the win!

So here are some hints as to why my choice of names for the index can be so random:

(1) The chip itself says "Casino Ruhl".
(2) PG listed the casino in his post header as "Casino Barriere Le Ruhl".
(3) CasinoCity.com lists the casino as "Casino Ruhl Barrière de Nice", and they provide a link to the casino's web site.
(4) That web site lists the casino as both "Casino Barrière Nice" and "Casino Barrière Le Ruhl - Nice".
(5) Google Maps has it listed as "Casino Barrière".

If the sources list the casino name with as many as five words, I feel some liberty to contract that in the index. I think I could reasonably have just left off the word "Casino" from any of those names, except doing that for #5 could perhaps have led to some confusion with other casinos. I took the lazy way out and went with what it says on the chip, minus the "Casino".

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January 12th, 2019 at 11:12:42 PM permalink
Category: Europe
City: Nice, France
Casino: Casino Barriere Menton


Today's chip of the day is from Casino Barriere Menton in Menton, France. I'm not sure why there is no filler word between Barriere and Menton on this casino name, it is the same on their site. I visited the Menton casino on my way back to Nice from my day trip to Sanremo Italy. This casino has 219 slots and 10 table games. I vultured a few slots and played a few hands of €10 BJ and walked away €100 less poor. The staff at this casino were very nice, the dealer and I exchanged a few looks while a very angry man lost €300-400. When the player left we had a little laugh at the rude player and both said he shouldn't play if it makes him that angry.

The chip is red with 3 yellow inserts. The centre inlay is white with the gold pearly gates logo. The casino name, location and the manufacturers mark are all black. The denomination is gold with a black border.

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January 13th, 2019 at 8:52:10 AM permalink
So how is this for another try? I just don't really want to have every chip in the index alphabetized as coming from a casino named "Casino ...."

(1) Those casinos for which the name is "Casino" followed by the name of the town/city/district etc., I will keep the name including that leading word. For now, that gives me:
- Casino Azores
- Casino da Madeira
- Casino de Cherbourg
- Casino de Monte-Carlo
- Casino Di Sanremo
- Casino Di Venezia

(2) In a similar vein, I will keep Gran Casino de Barcelona and Holland Casino.

(3) I will keep "Casino 3.14" listed that way because anything else I could come up with might make even less sense.

(4) I will keep "Casino at the Empire" because PokerGrinder specifically recommended that over the "Empire" listing that I had tried.

(5) For chain casinos, I will drop the "Casino" and use the rest of the name. For the recent ones from France, this gives:
- Barrière Cannes Croisette
- Barrière les Princes
- Barrière Le Ruhl (since there is some indication that this name is in use, even though it does not say so on the chip)
- Barrière Menton

(6) Similarly, for the chip from Prague, Czech Republic posted by AcesAndEights back in 2014, I will go with just Kartáč, which he indicated was the name of a casino chain. He also said it was known as "Casino Kartáč - Savarin", though the chip itself doesn't mention that. If we get more chips from that chain of casinos, I will try to adjust then. For the moment, I cannot find any evidence this casino still exists, either from the web site that AcesAndEights provided or from Google Maps at the location to which he pointed us.

So that's my plan for the European casions until more complications arise, leading to further randomness. I haven't yet examined other categories.
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January 13th, 2019 at 10:50:17 AM permalink
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So how is this for another try? I just don't really want to have every chip in the index alphabetized as coming from a casino named "Casino ...."

(1) Those casinos for which the name is "Casino" followed by the name of the town/city/district etc., I will keep the name including that leading word. For now, that gives me:
- Casino Azores
- Casino da Madeira
- Casino de Cherbourg
- Casino de Monte-Carlo
- Casino Di Sanremo
- Casino Di Venezia

(2) In a similar vein, I will keep Gran Casino de Barcelona and Holland Casino.

(3) I will keep "Casino 3.14" listed that way because anything else I could come up with might make even less sense.

(4) I will keep "Casino at the Empire" because PokerGrinder specifically recommended that over the "Empire" listing that I had tried.

(5) For chain casinos, I will drop the "Casino" and use the rest of the name. For the recent ones from France, this gives:
- Barrière Cannes Croisette
- Barrière les Princes
- Barrière Le Ruhl (since there is some indication that this name is in use, even though it does not say so on the chip)
- Barrière Menton

(6) Similarly, for the chip from Prague, Czech Republic posted by AcesAndEights back in 2014, I will go with just Kartáč, which he indicated was the name of a casino chain. He also said it was known as "Casino Kartáč - Savarin", though the chip itself doesn't mention that. If we get more chips from that chain of casinos, I will try to adjust then. For the moment, I cannot find any evidence this casino still exists, either from the web site that AcesAndEights provided or from Google Maps at the location to which he pointed us.

So that's my plan for the European casions until more complications arise, leading to further randomness. I haven't yet examined other categories.


Wow you put some real thought into that. I support everything that you said.
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January 13th, 2019 at 11:16:24 AM permalink
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So here are some hints as to why my choice of names for the index can be so random:

(1) The chip itself says "Casino Ruhl".
(2) PG listed the casino in his post header as "Casino Barriere Le Ruhl".
(3) CasinoCity.com lists the casino as "Casino Ruhl Barrière de Nice", and they provide a link to the casino's web site.
(4) That web site lists the casino as both "Casino Barrière Nice" and "Casino Barrière Le Ruhl - Nice".
(5) Google Maps has it listed as "Casino Barrière".

If the sources list the casino name with as many as five words, I feel some liberty to contract that in the index. I think I could reasonably have just left off the word "Casino" from any of those names, except doing that for #5 could perhaps have led to some confusion with other casinos. I took the lazy way out and went with what it says on the chip, minus the "Casino".

Suggestions for improvement?



I say again (because you didn't comment on my suggestion before), Ruhl, Casino Barriere Le would make all words searchable and still index under R. Fwiw, not to be an ass.
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January 13th, 2019 at 10:25:28 PM permalink
Category: Europe
City: Beaulieu, France
Casino: Casino de Beaulieu


Today's chip of the day is from Casino de Beaulieu in Beaulieu, France. This casino was quite tiny but very posh with their 12 tables and 75 slots. It was getting quite late in the night after my day trip to Sanremo and then my visit to the casino in Menton so I didn't stay long at Beaulieu. I knew I had only 45 minutes to get from the train station to the casino, play and then get back to the station for the last train of the night going to Nice. I made it in plenty of time after playing a dozen or so hands of €10 BJ and walking away up €55 plus my souvenir chip. The design of this casino was much fancier than the other casinos in the area. I am not sure how to describe it other than that it reminded me a bit of the decor of Cosmo in Vegas.

The chip is a neat design. The chip is red with 6 black edge inserts and 6 black lines around the chip. The centre inlay is white with the casino name/logo that includes a diamond on top of the "i". The denomination is gold with a black outline.

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January 14th, 2019 at 8:59:02 AM permalink
Wa She Shu Casino now has table games... ugh.

Now I have to decide if it’s worth a 6 hour drive to collect it at spring fling.
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January 14th, 2019 at 10:20:28 AM permalink
Is there a date yet for Spring Fling? What are the hours for the Wa She Shu tables? My problem with collecting this far from Vegas during the spring fling is that if the tables are fri-sat only, I have to give up a night of our event to drive to the middle of nowhere for 5 minutes...
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January 14th, 2019 at 11:14:55 AM permalink
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Wa She Shu Casino now has table games... ugh.

Now I have to decide if it’s worth a 6 hour drive to collect it at spring fling.



When will it ever be more convenient? hehe...
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January 14th, 2019 at 11:33:32 AM permalink
RDW the tables actually have good times. Wednesday to Sunday 5-12.

Aye I’m just wondering if it’s worth waiting until more are available in the Reno/northern Nevada area.
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January 14th, 2019 at 4:45:23 PM permalink
Category: Europe
City: Antibes, France
Casino: Casino D'Antibes La Siesta


Today's chip of the day is from Casino D'Antibes La Siesta in Antibes, France. Casino D'Antibes was the last casino that I collected from in Europe. This casino has 180 slots and 9 table games and was a vulturer's paradise! There were so many machines for me to play there that it took a half hour of scouting and playing before I even ended up in the table games section of the casino. I played BJ to collect my chip and all together I was up €144 before I left to catch my train back to Nice.

The chip is red with six tan edge inserts. The centre inlay is white with the casino name and the manufacturer's mark in red. The denomination is gold with a red border.



This is the end of collection from Europe and I posted it in record fashion! I'm headed to Colombia tomorrow and I will have more to share with you when I get home at the end of February. Doc it is your turn to take over again.
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January 14th, 2019 at 9:49:59 PM permalink
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Doc it is your turn to take over again.

Whaaattt?!!? PG has been posting chips for so long that I had completely forgotten that I had any chips to post. Digging through my calendar, I am reminded that I made an 8-night trip in October on which I collected 11 new souvenirs and a 5-night trip in December on which I added one more. Thus far, I have only posted one of those chips in this thread, and that was in response to the official CCotD post by PG for the Casino Woodbine in Toronto.

Well, I do have images of my chips already stored on-line, but now I'm going to have to try to remember something about the casinos and maybe even what happened there. Jeeez. Why don't you have those South American chips ready to post yet, PG?
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January 14th, 2019 at 9:56:36 PM permalink
Well that would be tough seeing as I have yet to ever walk into a casino in South America.
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January 15th, 2019 at 7:50:16 PM permalink
State: Maryland
City: Hanover
Casino: Live!


Well, OK, PokerGrinder, I'll give it a try. Seems like forever since I have made an official CCotD post, and I've almost forgotten how.

Back in September 2013, I posted my souvenir chip from "Maryland Live!" and commented on how odd the punctuation of that casino name looked to me, with the partial italics and the exclamation point. For those who don't recall my earlier post, this casino is part of a rather sizable Arundel Mills shopping mall, and I had never seen a combination quite like that.

In June 2017, PokerGrinder informed me in this thread that they were planning to change the name of the place to simply Live!, but I wasn't so sure that was an improvement. He didn't know whether they would be issuing new chips.

Even later, I heard that there were plans to build a Live! casino in Philadelphia, but so far as I can tell they have not even started construction. As I started this post, I checked and found this article from last November that claims that they are trying to get the Philadelphia casino up and running by 2020.

I suppose that if you are going to have Live! casinos operating in multiple locations, you might want to allow the possibility that you open more than one in the same state, which could affect your naming strategy, but I'm still not sure that this scheme holds promise for an extensive chain of casinos.

Eventually, I saw in the MoGH Chip Guide a photo of some new chips, with a notation that they were issued in 2018. Since I had a trip planned that would have me heading down I-95 past the place last October, I added that stop to my itinerary.

I really don't have much to say about the place beyond what I posted in the Maryland Live! CCotD entry. I hadn't paid enough attention to the place on my first visit to be able to detect many changes, and I still haven't been to anything in the Arundel Mills mall except the casino.

I played $15-minimum craps (the cheapest table they had), managed to lose $40 or so, and noticed that all of the chips had the old name on them. I asked about that, and I was told that their new chips were only in play in a brand new gaming area known as the Orchid Room. Perhaps more properly, their web site calls it "Orchid Gaming and Smoking Patio." My guess is that the mall is a non-smoking facility and that the main casino must abide by that restriction. The "patio" seems to be an enclosed room, but I suppose there is the possibility of stepping away from the tables/machines and finding a balcony or at least a ledge so that they can call this an "outdoor" area.

I found the Orchid room and a dead blackjack table. Rather than playing there in a smoking room, I decided to just buy a souvenir chip. Turns out that their new set doesn't even include any $1 chips, so I bought a $2.50 chip -- really exchanged one of my $5 chips from the craps table for two $2.50 chips and pocketed one of them.

I had a very strange experience cashing in my remaining chips, and I really thought I had posted a description here, but I can't find it. The short (?) version is that since I had a single $2.50 chip among those I was cashing in, the payout was perhaps a bit odd for a chip-redemption transaction. It must have confused the cashier, because she paid me more than I was due. I thought something was odd, so I stood to the side and re-counted the money. When I was sure of the over-payment, I stepped back to her and reported it. The idea of someone telling her, "You gave me too much money," seemed to have confused her even more, because on second try she short-changed me. I reported that, also, and had to tell her exactly how much more money to give me. The whole experience was mind boggling. I felt that someone should know about this sort of goings on but didn't know to whom it should be reported. It certainly wasn't a lot of money involved, but a cashier in a casino should be able to count currency and even a couple of coins. Eventually I reported it to a floor supervisor, who didn't really seem to care, so I just left.

So if you can find my previous post about that incident, you can have fun mocking how my memory is different now than two and a half months ago.

The chip is a pink Paulson RHC design with four narrow black edge inserts with two of those adjacent to two brown edge inserts, though they appear slightly orange in my photo. Don't know that I have ever seen this pattern for edge inserts. The center inlay is maroon (I guess), with a gold/brown sunburst pattern covering most of it and (top to bottom) the truncated name in red, "Casino•Hotel Maryland" in black, the denomination in white outlined in rust, and Hanover, MD in pink outlined in black at the bottom. I think they went wild with colors!

Under UV light, we can see the hidden Paulson top hat and cane logo fluorescing in the center, plus what appears to be fluorescence of the denomination.

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January 15th, 2019 at 11:58:29 PM permalink
That’s a great point about their short sighted naming strategy. I see that they are including the name of the city on the chip to compensate.

What color were the dollar chips? For some reason the $2.50 chips I recall seeing are usually a weird color. I assume it’s because all the “normal” colors are taken by whole dollar denominations. With the advent of 6:5, I predict the $2.50 chip will become rare in a few years.
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January 16th, 2019 at 7:31:49 AM permalink
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What color were the dollar chips?

Those were white, but they all said "Maryland Live!". I don't think there had been any change since my earlier post. The set of new Live! chips didn't include the $1 denomination.
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January 16th, 2019 at 7:43:11 PM permalink
State: Massachusetts
City: Springfield
Casino: MGM


The MGM opened in Springfield, MA (a new state for this thread) on 8/24/18 (which would have been my mother’s 99th birthday, had she lived so long.) I was able to visit the place exactly two months later and managed to drop $200 in a mere 30 minutes at a $10 craps table. Yep, keeping with my pattern for that game.

We had driven east out of New York State on I-90, made our brief stop in Springfield, then headed south on I-91 into Connecticut. Since then, I have received two separate bills from the Massachusetts “Pay by Plate” system, charging me for driving on their interstate highways. Of course they add a billing fee, so why couldn’t they have sent both charges in the same bill rather than doubling the processing fee? (Gripe, gripe, gripe….)

According to casinocity.com, this place has 125,000 square feet of gaming space, 3,000 gaming machines, and 75 table games. I didn’t look around enough to verify or deny any of those figures. I just know for certain that they had a $10 craps table that took my money very quickly. Other than that, I seem to have eradicated all memories of the place.

The souvenir chip is a white Paulson RHC with four narrow, light-blue edge inserts. The center inlay is a very dark blue -- so dark that it looks black in my photo, but my examination of the chip has me convinced that it is blue. The inlay is only slightly undersized for the space available, and it includes the Leo the Lion logo and MGM name, the denomination, and the city/state all in gold. UV light reveals the hidden Paulson logo fluorescing in the center. The chip was new enough that it shows extremely little wear or damage.



Edit 5/12/20: Member RideTheEdge posted more chips from the MGM here.
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