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May 2nd, 2012 at 8:27:17 AM permalink
Quote: Nareed

Ok, what song by Queen contains the word "fandango"?

This ought to be the easiest trivia ever, becasue 99% of all people know three songs by Queen.



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May 2nd, 2012 at 8:28:54 AM permalink
I don't even know what "Scaramouche" means. Is it a name?

As for three songs by Queen, isn't that about how many are included in the Fremont Street Vista Vision show about Queen?
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May 2nd, 2012 at 8:42:29 AM permalink
Quote: Doc

I don't even know what "Scaramouche" means. Is it a name?



Beats me. That's the song, though.

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As for three songs by Queen, isn't that about how many are included in the Fremont Street Vista Vision show about Queen?



I haven't seen that one. The last was 60s music, if I recall correctly, and the first one I saw ever, in '09, was "American Pie"

rdw, your link doesn't show under the spoiler.
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May 2nd, 2012 at 8:51:34 AM permalink
Quote: Nareed

I haven't seen that one. The last was 60s music, if I recall correctly, and the first one I saw ever, in '09, was "American Pie".


They publish the schedule of shows, but the May schedule isn't up yet. During April, they were regularly showing "A Tribute to Queen" at 10pm. If the May schedule is up before I leave home for WoVCon][, I'll bring a copy with me.
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May 2nd, 2012 at 8:55:42 AM permalink
Quote: Nareed

Beats me. That's the song, though.



I haven't seen that one. The last was 60s music, if I recall correctly, and the first one I saw ever, in '09, was "American Pie"

rdw, your link doesn't show under the spoiler.



As far as scaramouche, here's straight from wikipedia.

Scaramuccia, also known as Scaramouche, is a roguish clown character of the Italian commedia dell'arte who wears a black mask and He sometimes wears glasses. He entertains the audience by his "grimaces and affected language". Salvator Rosa says that Coviello (like Scaramouche) is "sly, adroit, supple, and conceited". In Molière's The Bourgeois Gentleman, Coviello disguises his master as a Turk and pretends to speak Turkish. Both Scaramouche and Coviello can be clever or stupid—as the actor sees fit to portray him.

The name was that of a stock character in 17th-century Italian farce, Scaramuccia (literally "skirmish"), who, attired usually in a black Spanish dress, burlesquing a don, was beaten by Harlequin for his boasting and cowardice.

Scaramouche is one of the iconic characters in the Punch and Judy puppet shows (a performative art with roots in commedia dell'arte). In some scenarios, he is the owner of The Dog, another stock character. During performances, Punch frequently strikes Scaramouche, causing his head to come off his shoulders. Because of this, the term scaramouche has become associated with a class of puppets with extendable necks.
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May 2nd, 2012 at 8:58:57 AM permalink
Quote: Doc

They publish the schedule of shows, but the May schedule isn't up yet. During April, they were regularly showing "A Tribute to Queen" at 10pm. If the May schedule is up before I leave home for WoVCon][, I'll bring a copy with me.



I like Queen. That guitar sound is unique, and they have some interesting lyrics, albeit often filled with angst. Very expressive, too. Like

"We started off so well
Said we made a perfect pair
I clothed myself in your glory and your love
How I loved you. How I tried.

Years of care and loyalty
Are nothing but a sham it seems
Is the life we lived a lie?"

And I can't recall how that stanza ends...
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May 2nd, 2012 at 9:02:31 AM permalink
Casino Fandango is the only casino YET...that I've been asked to not play dice anymore (They originally asked me not to set the dice, so that is the same as saying for me not to play). I went back some time after that to have the buffet (the Rum Jungle buffet; which is actually pretty nice) and they had a sign up at the table that said "No setting the dice".
I forget the name of the fish...but "tropical" is their theme, so he's everywhere...
I'll have to post up a picture of my "VIP" players card from them (LOL, their card printer was messed up, so I got an ALL WHITE card with my name on it)
I lived (I mean I was in carson city every weekend) in CC for probably 2 years...albeit at the GoldDustWest (Was Pinon Plaza then), but a lot of my play was at Fandango, simply because they comped decently for their machines.
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May 2nd, 2012 at 9:08:18 AM permalink
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rdw, your link doesn't show under the spoiler.



Thanks! Fixed it now. Turns out I didn't actually include any text for the link, so my signature line was clickable. Odd...
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May 2nd, 2012 at 9:10:15 AM permalink
delete, too far off topic
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May 2nd, 2012 at 9:29:29 AM permalink
I was convinced that Casino Fandango was a Peppermill Casinos property, because they use the same decor as the Peppermills. (Which I hate). Apparently, it's not. Now that I think about it, it is a little more tropical-ish. Had a good fruity drink here while playing Full-pay Deuces Wild (!) at the bar. There is something about Northern Nevada and garish casinos: Atlantis and the Peppermills are almost unbearably tacky.
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May 2nd, 2012 at 9:58:41 AM permalink
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I was convinced that Casino Fandango was a Peppermill Casinos property ....


Well, I did preface my comments with, "If I read the NGCB document correctly ...."

I could be completely incorrect, and either Carson Gaming or Mr. Goett could have sold Casino Fandango by now. I have repeatedly pointed out that I'm no pacomartin when it comes to digging out the business side of casinos. I just try to gather a little info on these casinos because it can be of interest/amusement to me and possibly to someone else.
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May 2nd, 2012 at 10:12:49 AM permalink
No, you're right...I asked around before..and Fandango is neither owned by Monarch (Atlantis) or Peppermill (A good friend of mine was friends with the owners of Pepp and he said all they owned was Pepp in Reno/Wendover/Vegas)
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May 2nd, 2012 at 10:55:42 AM permalink
Quote: Nareed

Ok, what song by Queen contains the word "fandango"?



Also, the Procol Harem song "Whiter Shade of Pale" begins with the lyric " We skipped the light fandango"...and ZZ Top had an album titled "Fandango"
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May 2nd, 2012 at 10:58:32 AM permalink
whiter shade of pale and bohemian rhapsody share a Brit award for Best British Pop Single 1952-1977.
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May 2nd, 2012 at 11:00:13 AM permalink
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whiter shade of pale and bohemian rhapsody share a Brit award for Best British Pop Single 1952-1977.



I don't understand that, but the answer is indeed "Bohemian Rhapsody."
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May 2nd, 2012 at 11:03:47 AM permalink
oops, i thought that had already been revealed,
through the video link earlier in the thread.
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May 2nd, 2012 at 11:11:32 AM permalink
Quote: WongBo

oops, i thought that had already been revealed,
through the video link earlier in the thread.



That one was covered with a spoiler tag.

But, come on, everyone knows three songs by Queen:

Bohemian Rhapsody
Somebody to Love

and a third one :)

I love "The Prophet's Song." Pretty much it says nothing, but it sounds very portentuous and important.
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May 2nd, 2012 at 11:21:29 AM permalink
Quote: Nareed

But, come on, everyone knows three songs by Queen:

Bohemian Rhapsody
We Are The Champions
We Will Rock You

You've obviously never been to a professional sporting event in the U.S. :)
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May 2nd, 2012 at 11:23:16 AM permalink
Those too.

But we're agreed everyone knows Bohemian Rhapsody.

I wonder if someone could develop a musical based on Queen's lyrics, like they've done with Abba's. Considering some of their work, you might even write an opera ;)

Ooops! I replied before the edit...

I have been to one, a playoff game between the Dolphins and Seahawks at the Orange Bowl (this was some years ago). I remember mostly two things: 1) Dan Marino and 2) A TD pass caught right in front of the section we were seated at.
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May 2nd, 2012 at 11:24:28 AM permalink
i thought the three you were referring to were
bohemian rhapsody
we are the champions and either
under pressure or another one bites the dust....

sorry for the thread hijack, doc.
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May 2nd, 2012 at 11:25:52 AM permalink
Quote: Nareed

Those too.

But we're agreed everyone knows Bohemian Rhapsody.

True. Everybody knows that one either from when it originally came out, or from the movie "Wayne's World," or from countless other references.

Everybody to a man (or woman) in the U.S. knows the other two as well.

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I wonder if someone could develop a musical based on Queen's lyrics, like they've done with Abba's. Considering some of their work, you might even write an opera ;)

Ask and ye shall receive:
http://www.wewillrockyou.co.uk/
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May 3rd, 2012 at 7:17:43 AM permalink
State: Nevada
City: Henderson
Casino: Fiesta


The Fiesta Henderson casino (in contrast to the fraternal property with a similar name in another of the area's communities) is located at an extremely visible location in Henderson, adjacent to the intersection of I-515 and I-215. Once you exit from either of those highways, the casino is right there on Lake Mead Drive, aka Lake Mead Parkway, depending on which signs and maps you trust.

In contrast, the Fiesta's own web site says it "is located on Lake Mead Parkway, adjacent to the junction of I-95 and the 215 Beltway." Now, I am quite certain that I-95 runs from Miami, FL to Houlton, ME on the Canadian border and comes nowhere close to Henderson, NV. Apparently someone cannot tell the difference between I-95 and US95. Careful where you get your driving directions.

The establishment opened in 1998 as The Reserve Hotel Casino under ownership of Ameristar. It was sold to Station Casinos in 2001 and renamed Fiesta Henderson, adopting the brand of the now-sibling casino that Station had purchased a little earlier. As a part of Station Casinos group, it is now (after a bankruptcy proceeding a few years ago) still owned almost 50% by the Fertitta family.

Fiesta is the dealing territory of Paigowdan. When I visited Las Vegas in December 2010, I had plans to get together with Dan, but "The best laid schemes o' mice an' men Gang aft agley." We never connected, and I have never met Dan in real life. I expect to correct that omission during WoVCon][, and perhaps a few of us can make it out to Henderson on one of his work days to enjoy having him deal to us. (I still don't understand Pai Gow, so it will have to be one of the other games!) I think I have only played at Fiesta Henderson twice.

The chip shown below is – can you believe it? – an RHC Paulson top hat and cane chip, with two inserts, black and green. The MOGH catalog indicates that this is the original $1 chip from the time of the casino's sale and name change, and that catalog does not show any other $1 chips having been used there. (There is a $1 token shown; is TIMSPEED still reading this thread? Got one of those?) The center inlay of the chip is exceptionally "festive" in its appearance, and if it didn't say "Fiesta" and "Henderson" right there on it, I might have guessed it was from the Rio. I cannot see anything on this chip fluorescing under UV light.

If anyone has any of Ameristar's former The Reserve chips, this would be a fine place to post images of those, because I don't have anything like that to post in this thread. The MOGH catalog shows some nice Reserve chips from Chipco with graphics including elephants and giraffes. Anyone have one of those?





Edit 6/9/12: DJ Teddy Bear added his Fiesta Henderson chips:

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This same edge appears twice on the above chip. I have no idea WHAT dream they're talking about.
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May 3rd, 2012 at 7:27:23 AM permalink
Here's my Fiesta Henderson chip. It's very cheery, which ties in with my experience at the casino as a whole. It was just a fun place to play. I have also never (knowingly) met Dan. I'm very much looking forward to it. Doc - If ever there was a person to learn Pai Gow Poker from...

I'm not sure if my chip was new when I got it in October of 2010, but this is one of the few chips in my collection that required no cleaning. It was in this nearly perfect condition when I received it.

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May 3rd, 2012 at 7:29:03 AM permalink
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We never connected, and I have never met Dan in real life. I expect to correct that omission during WoVCon][, and perhaps a few of us can make it out to Henderson on one of his work days to enjoy having him deal to us. (I still don't understand Pai Gow, so it will have to be one of the other games!)



I can teach you pai gow poker if you have ten minutes, a deck of cards (I think cards can be found in Vegas) and already know the basic poker ranks. In short, if you know how to play VP, you can learn PGP in ten minutes, easy.

Strategy, well, there isn't much of a real strategy, except for when to split pairs. For that watch the Wizard's PGP video and you're all set. This reminds me, BTW, that I need to write down the rules for splitting pairs before my trip...

But in the end if you want Dan as your dealer, you'll have to abide by his work schedule more than anything else.
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May 3rd, 2012 at 7:46:04 AM permalink
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In short, if you know how to play VP, you can learn PGP in ten minutes, easy.


Two confessions: (1) I was really referring to Pai Gow tiles as something I don't understand, and (2) I have never even played VP.

I expect I could handle PGP if I gave it a try and looked over some strategy info. I just can't keep the tiles themselves straight in my head and haven't really tried very hard.
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May 3rd, 2012 at 7:53:48 AM permalink
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(There is a $1 token shown; is TIMSPEED still reading this thread? Got one of those?)


Unfortunately my travels in gettingt he $1 token's only really included the strip in Vegas (when I went in 1995)
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May 3rd, 2012 at 8:05:02 AM permalink
Quote: Doc

Two confessions: (1) I was really referring to Pai Gow tiles as something I don't understand,



Oh. Since Dan deasl his game, EZ PGP, I assumed that was what you meant. Tiles are harder to fnid, as far as I know, and I don't know if they ahve any at his casino.

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and (2) I have never even played VP.



It was the first game I ever played in a casino!

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I expect I could handle PGP if I gave it a try and looked over some strategy info. I just can't keep the tiles themselves straight in my head and haven't really tried very hard.



I ahven't really tried, but I get confused quickly when I begin to read about tiles. If I may dig an odl cliche, they just don't compute.
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May 3rd, 2012 at 8:11:04 AM permalink
Quote: Doc

Two confessions: (1) I was really referring to Pai Gow tiles as something I don't understand, and (2) I have never even played VP.

I expect I could handle PGP if I gave it a try and looked over some strategy info. I just can't keep the tiles themselves straight in my head and haven't really tried very hard.



As for Pai Gow POKER, there are two learning curves on the game. 1) The joker is not completely wild, only partially used for straights, flushes and/or as an Ace. 2) What two cards to put in the low hand. Once you have both those things down, PGP is a very easy game to learn.

Of course, Tiles is a totally different game. The easiest way to describe it to newbies it is is Pai Gow Poker and Baccarat combined. Learning the ranks is the hardest thing in that game, but once you get it, you get it.

As for FIESTA, I'm hoping to get out there this trip, if only for a few minutes to collect that chip.
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May 3rd, 2012 at 8:31:54 AM permalink
several different strategy theories exist for pai gow poker.
i prefer this one, from Ed's PaiGow Poker Strategy Page
which is derivative from
Stanford Wong's OPTIMAL STRATEGY FOR PAI GOW POKER.

Add up the value of the two cards that make up your two pair.
If the total is greater than or equal to 17, split the pair.

If the total is 12 thru 16, an ace is needed in your
two-card hand if you wish to keep the two pair together.

If the total is 8 thru 11, a king is needed in your
two-card hand if you wish to keep the two pair together.

If the total is 5, 6, or 7, a queen is needed in your
two-card hand if you wish to keep the two pair together.
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May 3rd, 2012 at 8:32:24 AM permalink
Quote: Tiltpoul

As for FIESTA, I'm hoping to get out there this trip, if only for a few minutes to collect that chip.


Perhaps Dan will be willing to share his expected work schedule with us so that we could go out there as a group. If he is dealing PGP, I'll try to learn the game. If he is dealing craps, perhaps we can try that.

I'm not sure when all of the out-of-towners will arrive in Las Vegas. I think Nareed may be coming in on Sunday the 6th, and my wife and I will arrive early evening on Wednesday the 9th. I don't remember when you and TIMSPEED said you will arrive, but rdw4potus will be getting in Friday evening just in time to be late for WoVCon1.5. I think Wavy70 and his wife won't get there until after lunch on Saturday. I'm pretty sure that Nareed wants to visit a place or two on Boulder Highway.

If Dan is willing to put up with us showing up at his place, perhaps he can suggest times he might be dealing so we can see who will be in town. Then we could try to hole-card him or just set the dice for some precision throws. ;-)

This post probably belongs in the WoVCon][ thread, but I'll forgive myself for the hijacking.
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May 3rd, 2012 at 8:43:12 AM permalink
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If I may resurrect Ellis Island for a post, . . .That's not bad for an almost hole-in-the-wall casino no one's ever seen!


Ellis Island became a favorite of two bloggers who were also Vegas dealers. Not all the craps sessions were rewarding but most were and all were fun. Then someone mentioned a sweat-the-money employee who was making things very unpleasant at Ellis Island. This merited a cyberspace response by the head of table games there and they immediately fired the problem guy at the craps table.

So its not just known for its off the menu steak dinner special but is one of the few casinos that respond instantly to adverse mentions in cyberspace.
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May 3rd, 2012 at 9:00:11 AM permalink
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Ellis Island ... is one of the few casinos that respond instantly to adverse mentions in cyberspace.


It's been four days now, and I have heard nothing from them, so I suppose we didn't mention anything sufficiently adverse to draw a response. I guess my quip about Mr. Ellis dodging a bullet on that condo concept was OK.



By the way, if you haven't noticed, this thread has quietly worked its way up on the Top Threads list, sneaking past the religion threads into 3rd place. I think it's nice to see one of the top 5 threads have some obvious connection to Las Vegas and casinos. I suspect that interest in the Hot Blonde Challenge thread will diminish some time not too long after the final weigh-in, and this thread will have a chance to reach its peak at the #2 spot. Then we can wait to see whether some other thread will arise with enduring interest. I suspect my collection (and my days off for travel) will keep this thread alive until early 2013. After that, we will rely on others to keep it going.
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May 3rd, 2012 at 9:11:28 AM permalink
Quote: Doc

By the way, if you haven't noticed, this thread has quietly worked its way up on the Top Threads list, sneaking past the religion threads into 3rd place.



Congratulations!

I had been keeping track of that on and off. You made it past during and "off" period.

You do deserve all the credit, becasue you've kept up posting and saying something about the chips and/or casinos that ellicit comments. That's no small feat.

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I suspect my collection (and my days off for travel) will keep this thread alive until early 2013. After that, we will rely on others to keep it going.



Have you ever done a cruise across the Panama Canal? That would be a good chance to raid the casinos in Panamá City for chips ;)

On other things, if you can get a plan together for raiding Dan's Fiesta casino in Henderson, I'm in. I may even try my dice-counting AP method ;)
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May 3rd, 2012 at 10:08:49 AM permalink
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Have you ever done a cruise across the Panama Canal? That would be a good chance to raid the casinos in Panamá City for chips ;)


Well, I took a cruise through the Panama Canal once, but the ship didn't enter a port anywhere between Puerto Caldera, Costa Rica and Cartagena, Columbia. I tried to visit a casino in Cartagena, but it did not open until after we had to be back aboard the ship. That is one of the difficulties in collecting chips via cruise ship. Many casinos don't open until evening, and the ships typically don't spend the nights in port.

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On other things, if you can get a plan together for raiding Dan's Fiesta casino in Henderson, I'm in. I may even try my dice-counting AP method ;)


I love trying to count dice, but once they make the come out roll, I always seem to count a total of two.

I don't know whether Dan reads this thread, and I haven't tried a PM. It would be much better if we knew when he would be working before we tried to schedule a visit.
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May 3rd, 2012 at 10:12:42 AM permalink
Quote: Doc

Perhaps Dan will be willing to share his expected work schedule with us so that we could go out there as a group. If he is dealing PGP, I'll try to learn the game. If he is dealing craps, perhaps we can try that.
I'm not sure when all of the out-of-towners will arrive in Las Vegas. I think Nareed may be coming in on Sunday the 6th, and my wife and I will arrive early evening on Wednesday the 9th. I don't remember when you and TIMSPEED said you will arrive, but rdw4potus will be getting in Friday evening just in time to be late for WoVCon1.5. I think Wavy70 and his wife won't get there until after lunch on Saturday. I'm pretty sure that Nareed wants to visit a place or two on Boulder Highway.
If Dan is willing to put up with us showing up at his place, perhaps he can suggest times he might be dealing so we can see who will be in town. Then we could try to hole-card him or just set the dice for some precision throws. ;-)


I'll post to the appropriate thread.
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May 3rd, 2012 at 10:18:29 AM permalink
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If anyone has any of Ameristar's former The Reserve chips, this would be a fine place to post images of those, because I don't have anything like that to post in this thread. The MOGH catalog shows some nice Reserve chips from Chipco with graphics including elephants and giraffes. Anyone have one of those?



By the time I found my way out to this property it had just become "Fiesta". The thing it has going for it is it's proximity to Lake Mead, at least that's why my group stayed there. They have pull through parking spaces for boat trailers and RV's in their lot.

As I recall, it was pretty beat up. There were still "jungle" items (animal print carpets, statues of zebras and lions, and I think an elephant and giraffe head busting out of the roof over the casino entrance,) scattered about that gave it a "Rainforest Cafe" feel, not unlike walking into the MGM Grand from the bridge over the Strip. The buffet was not the worst, but definitely in the bottom quarter of the list.

The one thing I enjoyed was that they had a game where the shooter had to roll a bunch of dice (eight? ten?) simultaneously. Folks could place bets on various totals and combinations. It was like "Yahtzee Gone Wild". I haven't seen it anywhere else.

Edit: I found it. The game actually used only three dice (funny how the memory fades...). Check out the Wizard's write up on Ricochet. I wonder if this was a precursor to the "Three Dice Football" game that was rolled out at O'Sheas a few years ago?
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May 3rd, 2012 at 10:21:20 AM permalink
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Well, I took a cruise through the Panama Canal once,



As you can see, vocabulary fails me every now and then... But still not as bad as my biggest ever boner. I wrote "...a pillow behind her head..." on a story once. I got back a rejection form letter.


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That is one of the difficulties in collecting chips via cruise ship. Many casinos don't open until evening, and the ships typically don't spend the nights in port.



Indeed. I've heard similar stories, not necessarily involving casinos, from other pople on cruises. Also i've no ieda if any ships stop at Panama City. But if you're ever on one, see the Wizard's article about the casinso there.

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I love trying to count dice, but once they make the come out roll, I always seem to count a total of two.



My method keeps count of the pips and frequency of such by dice. The trick is keeping track of a die when it gets replaced. But once you find the biased dice, and someone willing to believe that, watch out! ;)

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I don't know whether Dan reads this thread, and I haven't tried a PM. It would be much better if we knew when he would be working before we tried to schedule a visit.



Certainly. Imagine making the trip to Henderson and finding out it's his day off. I mean, sure, you coudl then go to ethel M's and drown your sorrow and disappointemnt in delicious chocoalte, but it's not the same thing. Anyway, Dan will be at WovCon ][. That's all I know about hsi schedule.

We should visit Nick, too. But then I have the Ditzegerald's right next door (note: the name isn't a typo).

So let's see. You arrive on the 9th. When do you leave? I'm in Vegas until the 17th.
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May 3rd, 2012 at 10:47:36 AM permalink
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We should visit Nick, too. But then I have the Ditzegerald's right next door (note: the name isn't a typo).


The luck of the ditzy. This thread will get to the Fitzgeralds chip on Saturday.

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So let's see. You arrive on the 9th. When do you leave? I'm in Vegas until the 17th.


My wife and I fly out of Las Vegas mid-day on Tuesday the 15th.
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May 3rd, 2012 at 11:10:58 AM permalink
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The luck of the ditzy. This thread will get to the Fitzgeralds chip on Saturday.



When do you get to 4 Queens?

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My wife and I fly out of Las Vegas mid-day on Tuesday the 15th.



Ok, I will be moving this to another thread (unless you prefer to inflate the count here?)
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May 3rd, 2012 at 11:21:15 AM permalink
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When do you get to 4 Queens?


I plan to get there just before noon on the 12th. ;-)

Yes, I know. A smiley doesn't always make up for a smart aleck comment.

This thread should cover the Four Queens chip on Monday the 7th, and that will probably be the last chip that I will try to post before WoVCon][. If I posted the next chip before heading to the airport on Tuesday morning, I would not be around to participate in the follow-up discussions.
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May 3rd, 2012 at 12:05:45 PM permalink
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I plan to get there just before noon on the 12th. ;-)

Yes, I know. A smiley doesn't always make up for a smart aleck comment.



No, no. that was quite funny :D

BTW I PMed Dan about his schedule. When I hear from him I'll get a "let's annoy Dan at work" thread going. I just hope we settle it by Saturday.

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This thread should cover the Four Queens chip on Monday the 7th, and that will probably be the last chip that I will try to post before WoVCon][. If I posted the next chip before heading to the airport on Tuesday morning, I would not be around to participate in the follow-up discussions.



Ok. I should find free WiFi by then. You're welcome to borrow my laptop if you need to go online, BTW.
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May 3rd, 2012 at 12:09:17 PM permalink
My phone plan comes with the ability to become a walking wifi hotspot, should the need arise during the time when we'll all be together y'all are welcome to piggy back on my plan.
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May 3rd, 2012 at 12:53:47 PM permalink
man, the WOVCON is hijacking threads left and right!
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May 3rd, 2012 at 1:22:21 PM permalink
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man, the WOVCON is hijacking threads left and right!



You're right.

Sort of back on topic, and I don't think we've covred this: why chips? I mean, why use chips rather than something else, like cash, printed slips, etc, at the casino?
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May 3rd, 2012 at 1:24:24 PM permalink
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You're right.

Sort of back on topic, and I don't think we've covred this: why chips? I mean, why use chips rather than something else, like cash, printed slips, etc, at the casino?



The sound? Small enough to handle but large enough to protect? Someone has a stake in the clay business?
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May 3rd, 2012 at 1:35:35 PM permalink
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... why chips? I mean, why use chips rather than something else, like cash, printed slips, etc, at the casino?


Wikipedia, naturally, has a page on casino tokens. It includes the comment, "Tokens are employed for several reasons. Because of the uniform size, shape, and patterns of stacks of chips, they are easier to tally compared to currency."
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May 3rd, 2012 at 2:16:04 PM permalink
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Wikipedia, naturally, has a page on casino tokens. It includes the comment, "Tokens are employed for several reasons. Because of the uniform size, shape, and patterns of stacks of chips, they are easier to tally compared to currency."



This sounds a bit reminescent of why gold prevailed as currency. Although chips cannot be easily divided (I'll say!), nor are they valued for their own sake (except by collectors like Doc and rdw4potus).

And I think that's 700 posts on the thread.

Anyway, in some casinos in Mexico they use a "smart" card with en embedded chip. Keep in mind these are slots-only places, or mostly slots with some all-electronic, dealerless tables. You go to the cage, deposit money in your card and play it. When you run out, there are runners in the floor who can "recharge" it, or you can trek down to the cage.

This works pretty well for slots. It would work just as well in hybrid tables, with a dealer but without chips.
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May 3rd, 2012 at 2:18:27 PM permalink
i am sure the day will come, when the internet generation 2.0 is running the show,
that all dice, cards and chips will be gone and replaced with electronic representations.
hopefully i will be long gone by then.
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May 3rd, 2012 at 2:29:18 PM permalink
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i am sure the day will come, when the internet generation 2.0 is running the show,
that all dice, cards and chips will be gone and replaced with electronic representations.
hopefully i will be long gone by then.



I can't find it, but some time ago someone posted a funny progression about this (paraphrasing):

1. Real chips/dice/cards/wheels
2. electronic credits replace chips
3. electronic images replace cards/dice/wheels
4. rounds are sped up
5. summaries are given to players, with corresponding bankroll changes
6. the casino just takes your money
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May 4th, 2012 at 6:39:42 AM permalink
State: Nevada
City: North Las Vegas
Casino: Fiesta Rancho


Well, I don't really know much to say about Fiesta Rancho that won't seem redundant after yesterday's chip. It is a "Fiesta" casino co-branded with the Henderson property that we just discussed; "Rancho" is the name of the street it is on. Of course, this casino like its sibling belongs to Station Casinos, thus almost 50% to the Fertitta family. I have only been to Fiesta Rancho one time, and I don't know the nicknames of any of the dealers there.

I have some gaps/conflicts in my history of Fiesta Rancho, which was built by George Maloof. One site I found said it opened in 1994, while the MOGH site says 1995. Close enough, I suppose. Maloof sold the casino to Station Casinos (in 2000 according to one site, 2001 per another) and subsequently opened the Palms, which I think was already well under construction. I'm not really sure of the reasoning, but Station kept the Fiesta "brand" a bit separate from their other casinos and added the Henderson property to that brand when they bought it from Ameristar soon afterward.

This chip is an RHC Paulson and is almost the same as yesterday's example, except for different edge inserts. The image on the center inlay is slightly enlarged compared to the previous one and has a blue background instead of gray. The inlay naturally includes the word "Rancho" and the different town name. The MOGH catalog shows this chip but does not indicate an issue date. Another gap in the history line.

How often do Fiesta Rancho and Fiesta Henderson chips find their way to the opposite casino? I suppose the prior question should ask how often players shift between the two casinos.



Edit 5/27/12: Check this post later in this thread about UV images visible on this and other chips.
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