davethebuilder
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March 18th, 2017 at 8:34:06 AM permalink
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Dealers in a high limit room tend to be experienced and trusted by the casino. Cocktail waitresses are very attentive and premium brands are routinely served.



This is very true. The OP should have his question answered by now but for those interested in Australian casino conditions...

The minimum front money required for access to VIP areas in Australia varies between $5K-$10K and the min. BJ bet varies between $50-$200. Beyond that there are private gaming rooms that require a min. bet of $500, sometimes with slightly better rules as long as they still comply with State regulations. Even so the main activity in these areas is Baccarat which is the preferred game played by Asians, mainly Chinese and sometimes organised through gambling junkets. They are also very aggressive with their betting and believe in lucky spirits surrounding the table to win rather than the mathematics so they quite often lose large sums of money which makes them premium players for the casino.

In Australia, a guest of a premium player must at least play the table minimum and a pit boss or floor supervisor would have no authority to alter that requirement. The US may well be different and more flexible.

One of the best conditions in Australian casinos, main floor or the VIP area, is the No Smoking rule.
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MrV
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March 18th, 2017 at 8:58:59 AM permalink
Are members of the public allowed to enter the so-called "private" high limit areas when whales are playing?

I am referring to the rooms located away from the main casino floor, e.g. on the top floor, "hidden" away from view?
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davethebuilder
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March 18th, 2017 at 9:11:37 AM permalink
Quote: MrV

Are members of the public allowed to enter the so-called "private" high limit areas when whales are playing?

I am referring to the rooms located away from the main casino floor, e.g. on the top floor, "hidden" away from view?



No. In Australia, the general public are only allowed on the main floor. There are various types of high limit areas and to access them you must become a member and then qualify with front money, enter as a guest of another member or earn enough points on your players card to qualify for entry. Whales often have their own private gaming areas which are called salons and the only way an ordinary member may enter is by invitation.
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March 18th, 2017 at 9:12:13 AM permalink
Most states have a law that it must be public but it's discouraged - the talon room in Cosmo is open but they frown
Marlyland live has a curtain with a card it's just strange - but I prefer to play with no one there so I hate that they allow public access but whatever I think law is it must be public and anyone can enter the room
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March 18th, 2017 at 11:17:00 AM permalink
I wonder whether there are ever exceptions to the public access rule?

For example, if a whale the size of Kerry Packer (R.I.P.) insists on privacy or he won't play: can that be accomodated?

If so, how (without running afoul of the rule)?
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March 18th, 2017 at 11:32:41 AM permalink
I'm. Not sure but at Maryland live they have a baccarat game in the high limit in the corner with a curtain that wraps around it and they put a guard-
Also I have heard floor people ask people to sit and play it keep moving however the person really doesn't need to listen
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March 18th, 2017 at 1:28:38 PM permalink
Rivers Casino, in Pittsburgh, is one that has signage posted around the High Limit room that essentially states that you should only be in there if you are actually playing. There also seems to be a security guy (or slot suit) posted in there more often than not.

I suppose they could come around and actually ask you to sit down and play and the player would not technically have to abide as it is a public area. Although, I don't think I would press my issue to make my point because a casino can also kick you out for any reason that it wants to provide the reason doesn't violate a law in and of itself. If I wanted you out of my high limit room and you wouldn't leave, then I would just kick you out of the casino without explicitly stating a reason. I imagine I would wait until you had physically left the high limit room on your own to do it.
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March 18th, 2017 at 1:35:52 PM permalink
Quote: MrV

I wonder whether there are ever exceptions to the public access rule?

For example, if a whale the size of Kerry Packer (R.I.P.) insists on privacy or he won't play: can that be accomodated?

If so, how (without running afoul of the rule)?


I read through the NV gaming regulations a while ago, but IIRC, in Nevada, private gaming is legal if the gaming comission signs off on it. Same thing with having an area that charges people to enter (if gaming says okay, then it's okay).
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March 18th, 2017 at 4:26:26 PM permalink
The free food areas in Las Vegas High Limit rooms are "invitation only" or require a high-level players card. Drinks in free food areas are free even when not gambling (up to certain limits, used to be $35 at Caesars & $25 at Bellagio). I like fresh watermelon juice, carrot juice, etc... (which are usually unavailable on the main floor).

In some countries, complimentary food is available for everyone, but the US usually restricts it to high-level players.
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March 18th, 2017 at 4:47:02 PM permalink
Sorry if this is getting too far off topic, but does anyone know the law in NJ?

I've been booted off a machine in AC for not having the "correct" player card status.

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