Roulette Scorecard

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September 30th, 2010 at 9:04:28 PM permalink
EvenBob
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I always use a scorecard, provided by the casino, every time I play. The last 3 times I played at one of my local casinos, a suit has asked to see my card. I show it to them, they study it and give it back. When they asked yesterday, I said "Can you demand to see my card whenever you like?" and he replied he can do anything he wants. What the heck are they looking for? What would happen if I said no. I'm getting kind of sick of it.
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September 30th, 2010 at 9:14:34 PM permalink
Wizard
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you have every right to refuse to present identification, especially if you didn't commit a crime. The guard can ask for whatever he wants, but that doesn't mean you have to comply.
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September 30th, 2010 at 9:18:24 PM permalink
EvenBob
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Quote: Wizard
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you have every right to refuse to present identification, especially if you didn't commit a crime. The guard can ask for whatever he wants, but that doesn't mean you have to comply.


He asks to see my scorecard, what I'm writing on, not my player card. I should have worded it better.
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September 30th, 2010 at 9:47:52 PM permalink
nope27
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Quote: EvenBob
I always use a scorecard, provided by the casino, every time I play. The last 3 times I played at one of my local casinos, a suit has asked to see my card. I show it to them, they study it and give it back. When they asked yesterday, I said "Can you demand to see my card whenever you like?" and he replied he can do anything he wants. What the heck are they looking for? What would happen if I said no. I'm getting kind of sick of it.


Roulette is my game I play the most and I keep track of spins as you and am almost always asked if they can see it.

I do not know what they are looking for except to see what I am writing down.

I had a large win one day this month in Tunica and a floor person asked to see my scorecard after I cashed out. Even asked why I keep track of my winning and losing bets.
He smiled and said good luck, hope you return soon.
October 1st, 2010 at 1:41:56 AM permalink
FleaStiff
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The Floor is asking to see the scorecard form that the casino itself provides to you and encourages you to fill in as if it were going to be some assistance to you in determining whether that next roll was going to be Red or Black?

Why do they provide the form if they are later suspicious about it?

Particularly if its annoying to you, I would not show it to them.

I'm annoyed when the Floor gives me that Baccarat form that I didn't ask for.
October 1st, 2010 at 4:05:19 AM permalink
Chuck
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Next time, before you go to the table, write a bunch of formulas using those weird math symbols.

Or, just take a Sharpie and write FUCK YOU ASSHOLE at the top.
October 1st, 2010 at 4:48:43 AM permalink
weaselman
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Quote: FleaStiff
The Floor is asking to see the scorecard form that the casino itself provides to you and encourages you to fill in as if it were going to be some assistance to you in determining whether that next roll was going to be Red or Black?

Why do they provide the form if they are later suspicious about it?


I think, they ask to look at it for the same reason they provide it to begin with. The idea is to make you think that using the card is valuable to you, and that they are worried about you discovering that formula, that'll leave them without a penny.
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October 1st, 2010 at 10:14:41 PM permalink
EvenBob
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Quote: weaselman
I think, they ask to look at it for the same reason they provide it to begin with. The idea is to make you think that using the card is valuable to you, and that they are worried about you discovering that formula, that'll leave them without a penny.


They didn't ask tonight but a floor woman was craning her neck to see what I was writing. She asked me "Are you playing a system?" To myself I said 'DUH'. To her I said "Just keeping track". I always say that and it seems to make them feel better. Its a meaningless answer. To be fair, I rarely see anybody besides myself writing anything down, so they don't see it much either.
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October 2nd, 2010 at 6:39:44 AM permalink
DJTeddyBear
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I've never seen Roulette scorecards. Baccarat, yes, but not Roulette.

We gotta get a floor person on here to answer this one.

It seems to me that, if the casino is providing the score card, they should be happy you're using it.

Maybe they're asking so they can tell another player the alleged benefits of using it. Are these cards out on display, or do you have to ask for them? Maybe other players see them and ask why a player would bother to keep track, and they'd like to have an answer ready.


I REALLY don't think they're stupid enough to think you might be onto something that gives you an advantage the way a card counter can.

No floor person objected to the history displays when they were first installed. Or to the upgrades where it also shows trends. Similar displays are popping up at Baccarat. You'll never see them at BlackJack....
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October 2nd, 2010 at 7:25:10 AM permalink
miplet
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Quote: DJTeddyBear
I've never seen Roulette scorecards. Baccarat, yes, but not Roulette.

No floor person objected to the history displays when they were first installed. Or to the upgrades where it also shows trends. Similar displays are popping up at Baccarat. You'll never see them at BlackJack....

Just imagine a display showing the dealer's last 10 hands: BJ, Bust, 18, 19, 20...ect. :+)
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