gamerfreak
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June 14th, 2017 at 10:26:18 AM permalink
I haven't had many negative experiences personally. The occasional ploppie getting angry that I "took his winning card" on the BJ table....other 3CP players flabbergasted that I am playing 3CP "incorrectly" by only betting on Ante/Play.

I've come to realize that confrontation is par for the course when it comes to craps players. Those guy's are out of their f'ing minds. I've only ever angered people by trying to squeeze in on a crowded table where there is obviously room, but someone insists on taking up 4+ chip trays. Although I've seen others get absolutely screamed at for talking to the shooter. I wish dealers would step in more and put an end to the aggressive superstitious BS.

Anyone have a good story?
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June 14th, 2017 at 10:43:18 AM permalink
I was in a BJ tournament in Laughlin about ten years ago. It was an invite only free tournament, with top prize being around 5000 and 10th being a couple hundred. Two rounds, with the top players advancing to a third.
I'm second player to act on last hand and everyone at table has max bets out.
Dealer is showing a small card. I get Ace/ seven ,hit it and get a ten. Guy at third says it was a sick move. I ignore him. Everyone else stands and dealer shows his cards. The ten would have busted him but he now pulls his card for a 21, pretty much wiping everyone out. Third base gets really loud, calling me all sorts of stuff. Dealer tries to calm him down but he goes on, getting louder. Fast forward a minute or two and he tries to push his way past security. He ended up getting hog tied and arrested. As they are dragging him out, he is screaming that he will kill me, kill the dealer, kill the pitboss, piss in the pool, park in a handicap spot and all sort of nasty things.
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June 14th, 2017 at 10:44:37 AM permalink
I've told this story a few times on here... I was playing pai gow tiles years ago, and some high roller betting $30k a hand was being a giant a-hole to the dealer and to me (I was the only other one at the table). I could tell the dealer and pit boss hated his guts, but of course they had to put up with him. This was my first time playing tiles in a casino, and one of my first times playing for any serious money in a Vegas casino, so I was already kind of nervous and timid and just kind of sat there. If I had run into this guy nowadays I would have told him to shove his yellow chips up his ass and eat s**t.

Another time I was playing tiles some kid comes up and wasn't necessarily being an a-hole, but just really douchy. He talked and acted like he was some hot-shot high roller but was barely betting more than I was; maybe $50-$100 a hand on average. From what I remember I think he was using a Martingale system, so that would explain why he said he's lost tens of thousands of dollars playing tiles.

Most fun I've had in a casino was, again, at the tiles table. Just playing with a table full of drunk Asians is a blast.
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June 14th, 2017 at 10:50:43 AM permalink
Civilians at blackjack are the worst overall.

Getting chastised about not playing side bets. They all say, "that's where the money is." And I reply, "why aren't you betting table max on it then?" That usually, but not always, shuts them up.
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June 14th, 2017 at 10:59:09 AM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

Civilians at blackjack are the worst overall.

Getting chastised about not playing side bets. They all say, "that's where the money is." And I reply, "why aren't you betting table max on it then?" That usually, but not always, shuts them up.


I usually just say "so how much are you up?"
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June 14th, 2017 at 11:02:28 AM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

Most fun I've had in a casino was, again, at the tiles table. Just playing with a table full of drunk Asians is a blast.


I really want to learn, I even bought myself a set of casino used tiles to practice. I just haven't gotten around to learning the seemingly random pairs, ugh.
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June 14th, 2017 at 11:12:19 AM permalink
Quote: gamerfreak

I really want to learn, I even bought myself a set of casino used tiles to practice. I just haven't gotten around to learning the seemingly random pairs, ugh.



It's totally worth learning. Pretty low house edge, very slow game, lots of pushes -- your money will last a while. Learn the rankings, learn the strategy, learn a few delivery styles to use when banking, and you'll have a good time. Find an open table during off-hours and it will probably be empty, since tiles is not a terribly popular game; that's a good time to practice and get lots of help and pointers from the dealer. Harrah's is the best place in Vegas to play if you're new to the game... super-friendly and helpful dealers.
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June 14th, 2017 at 11:15:08 AM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

It's totally worth learning. Pretty low house edge, very slow game, lots of pushes -- your money will last a while. Learn the rankings, learn the strategy, learn a few delivery styles to use when banking, and you'll have a good time. Find an open table during off-hours and it will probably be empty; that's a good time to practice and get lots of help and pointers from the dealer (if they're friendly). Harrah's in the best place in Vegas to play if you're new to the game.


I'm on the east coast, and it's pretty popular in AC/Pennsylvania. I think what I'll end up doing is just making flash cards with the pairs. It seems like those are the biggest learning curve.
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June 14th, 2017 at 11:34:57 AM permalink
Hmm, you know, after thinking about it I've never had a situation get "out of hand." Sure, I've had irate blackjack table mates for my play in 3rd base, as well as other games having players literally berate the dealer... but that's usually handled fairly simply.

When someone yells that I took the bust card I just ask how they knew it was a 10 and not a 5. Then I'll ask them to bet me the next card is a face card and if not then I win... since they can "sense" the bust cards. Not a bad way to get just over a 2-1 edge on a mean ploppy.

The berating the dealer is usually easier to handle. I'll just remind them the dealer has nothing to do with it and that it's a pretty dick move to try to blame it on them. USUALLY this is the end of it because I'm an in shape younger looking guy, and quite often it's some old or slobby person. The only time it has almost become an issue is when it happen to be a younger typical looking douchy rich kid who made some remark about kicking my ass... but when I laughed and told him that would be a very very bad idea for him he seemed to take the hint and just let it go.

Keeping calm and redirecting their thought process is usually the easiest way to defuse most situations. Redirect the dealer attackers to the machine (i.e. the dealer just gets the cards out of that EVIL machine that organizes them!). Redirect personal attacks on play by offering to bet against them almost ALWAYS shuts them up. If not, then you get some great bets =).
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June 14th, 2017 at 12:26:02 PM permalink
Quote: Romes


The only time it has almost become an issue is when it happen to be a younger typical looking douchy rich kid who made some remark about kicking my ass...



If I was going to get my ass kicked anywhere I would want it to be in a casino... you'd be on camera from ten different angles so the other guy would get locked up for sure, plus the casino might take pity on you and comp you some stuff! ;D
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June 14th, 2017 at 12:34:43 PM permalink
I had a little run in with a guy at the table who constantly knew what card was coming, after the fact. After one obnoxious outcry against another player, I called him out. Offered him ten to one he couldn't name the next card he'd received. When he declined, I offered him 2-1 if he could simply name the suit. No bet., so I offered him even money if he could just name the color of his next card. I really expected he'd take that one up but he didn't. A round or two later when he was hesitating over a three card hand, the object of his earlier scorn spoke up and pretty much shamed him into leaving the table.
Normally, I try to avoid such things. A BJ ninja should be unseen and unheard,. Having a confrontation means you've already lost.
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June 14th, 2017 at 12:42:55 PM permalink
Why do people like that even play blackjack? If I was the kind of person that thought other people's actions affected my wagers than I simply wouldn't be playing that kind of game. I'd be playing roulette or slots or something like that.
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June 14th, 2017 at 1:12:15 PM permalink
I've had the usual stuff happen. Craps players openly berating another player because they sevened out or the table turned after they bought in. That kind of stuff happens and you just have to brush it off.

You know what I haven't been able to brush off? I'm at Muckleshoot (outside of Seattle) and step up to the table next to a FoB Asian man. Chinese I think. I buy in, make my bets, then decide to smoke a cigarette and realize I forgot my lighter. I then look around and notice the FoB next to me has a lighter. I ask to use it. He says no. I understand that perhaps he thought I was asking for a cig, reiterate it, and he says no again. This POS living stereotype won't let me borrow his lighter to light one cigarette. That, people, is my worst experience with other patrons.

Honestly, it was worse than getting a black chip jacked.
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June 14th, 2017 at 1:20:25 PM permalink
Quote: ahiromu

I'm at Muckleshoot (outside of Seattle) and step up to the table next to a FoB Asian man. Chinese I think. I buy in, make my bets, then decide to smoke a cigarette and realize I forgot my lighter. I then look around and notice the FoB next to me has a lighter. I ask to use it. He says no. I understand that perhaps he thought I was asking for a cig, reiterate it, and he says no again. This POS living stereotype won't let me borrow his lighter to light one cigarette.



Devil's advocate: If he was Asian, he might have been very superstitious and the lighter was his good luck charm. He might not have wanted you to touch it for fear of giving him bad luck. I don't know if that's really a thing with Asian gamers, but it sounds like it could be.
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June 14th, 2017 at 1:21:30 PM permalink
The worse thing that has happened to you in a casino is a guy wouldn't let you use his lighter? Seriously?
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June 14th, 2017 at 1:47:33 PM permalink
I chit chatted with a lady with a service dog. She was a total nut ball, hearing half of what I said, misinterpreting the other half. She was like a computer program designed to make you insane, making stuff up, repeating you wrong, putting words in your mouth. I've heard she has managed to have employees fired at that casino. I'd bet she is a faker, I had seen her there before without a dog, drunk as a skunk. So toxic.
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