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January 14th, 2018 at 7:08:40 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

But I steadfastly believe that the country, its border safety, its economy, is in better shape than if HRC was President.

That evaluation is steadily being vindicated. The latest is example is the increase in indictements in the Uranium One case:
The Hill reported the “FBI had gathered substantial evidence that Russian nuclear industry officials were engaged in bribery, kickbacks, extortion and money laundering designed to grow Vladimir Putin’s atomic energy business inside the United States.” The report added:

Federal agents used a confidential U.S. witness working inside the Russian nuclear industry to gather extensive financial records, make secret recordings and intercept emails as early as 2009 that showed Moscow had compromised an American uranium trucking firm with bribes and kickbacks in violation of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, FBI and court documents show.

They also obtained an eyewitness account — backed by documents — indicating Russian nuclear officials had routed millions of dollars to the U.S. designed to benefit former President Bill Clinton’s charitable foundation during the time Secretary of State Hillary Clinton served on a government body that provided a favorable decision to Moscow, sources told The Hill.

The report went on to state the DOJ kept Congress and the American public in the dark about corrupt Russian nuclear activities happening on U.S. soil during a time when the Obama administration “made two major decisions benefiting Putin’s commercial nuclear ambitions.”
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January 14th, 2018 at 7:17:42 PM permalink
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That evaluation is steadily being vindicated. The latest is example is the increase in indictements in the Uranium One case:
The Hill reported the “FBI had gathered substantial evidence that Russian nuclear industry officials were engaged in bribery, kickbacks, extortion and money laundering designed to grow Vladimir Putin’s atomic energy business inside the United States.” The report added:

Federal agents used a confidential U.S. witness working inside the Russian nuclear industry to gather extensive financial records, make secret recordings and intercept emails as early as 2009 that showed Moscow had compromised an American uranium trucking firm with bribes and kickbacks in violation of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, FBI and court documents show.

They also obtained an eyewitness account — backed by documents — indicating Russian nuclear officials had routed millions of dollars to the U.S. designed to benefit former President Bill Clinton’s charitable foundation during the time Secretary of State Hillary Clinton served on a government body that provided a favorable decision to Moscow, sources told The Hill.

The report went on to state the DOJ kept Congress and the American public in the dark about corrupt Russian nuclear activities happening on U.S. soil during a time when the Obama administration “made two major decisions benefiting Putin’s commercial nuclear ambitions.”

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January 15th, 2018 at 1:10:37 AM permalink
Quote: SanchoPanza

That evaluation is steadily being vindicated. The latest is example is the increase in indictements in the Uranium One case:
The Hill reported the “FBI had gathered substantial evidence that Russian nuclear industry officials were engaged in bribery, kickbacks, extortion and money laundering designed to grow Vladimir Putin’s atomic energy business inside the United States.” The report added:

Sounds like Halliburton or several hundred other contractors that went to Iraq, or contractors in Afg. Vlad's a bidness man. No better or worse than Cheney or Clinton.

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Federal agents used a confidential U.S. witness working inside the Russian nuclear industry to gather extensive financial records, make secret recordings and intercept emails as early as 2009 that showed Moscow had compromised an American uranium trucking firm with bribes and kickbacks in violation of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, FBI and court documents show.

I read at least one article that said they were trucking ore, IDR if they were trucking refined uranium, but it moves all the time. You are talking ore, or [hehe] refined to less than 20%, which is used in medical equipment. The centrifuges that will refine up to twenty percent, and those that will refine up to weapons grade [ 50- 85%] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enriched_uranium, are very different animals. We received Russias weapons grade uranium to process, [which we used in nuke plants] http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/10/business/energy-environment/10nukes.html. I don't know what is wrong with the business? Radioactive trade happens all the time?

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They also obtained an eyewitness account — backed by documents — indicating Russian nuclear officials had routed millions of dollars to the U.S. designed to benefit former President Bill Clinton’s charitable foundation during the time Secretary of State Hillary Clinton served on a government body that provided a favorable decision to Moscow, sources told The Hill.

I'm sure there is a metric ton of criminal activity they have been witness to, to get them on. But not mining or trucking. Unless it includes the mines closed down, including "Arizona One", that were closed when WJC signed Grand Staircase Escalante act, and made it a National Park?

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The report went on to state the DOJ kept Congress and the American public in the dark about corrupt Russian nuclear activities happening on U.S. soil during a time when the Obama administration “made two major decisions benefiting Putin’s commercial nuclear ambitions.”

Oh the horror, and we are putting missiles in Poland and the Ukraine.

Clintons or Bush's or Trumps, thats what they do. All of 'em. They are the movers and shakers of the world. Oil comes this way, and grain goes that way.

In their defense, if "they" weren't doing it, somebody else would.

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January 15th, 2018 at 1:24:33 AM permalink
Quote: SanchoPanza

That evaluation is steadily being vindicated. The latest is example is the increase in indictements in the Uranium One case:
The Hill reported the “FBI had gathered substantial evidence that Russian nuclear industry officials were engaged in bribery, kickbacks, extortion and money laundering designed to grow Vladimir Putin’s atomic energy business inside the United States.” The report added:

Federal agents used a confidential U.S. witness working inside the Russian nuclear industry to gather extensive financial records, make secret recordings and intercept emails as early as 2009 that showed Moscow had compromised an American uranium trucking firm with bribes and kickbacks in violation of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, FBI and court documents show.

They also obtained an eyewitness account — backed by documents — indicating Russian nuclear officials had routed millions of dollars to the U.S. designed to benefit former President Bill Clinton’s charitable foundation during the time Secretary of State Hillary Clinton served on a government body that provided a favorable decision to Moscow, sources told The Hill.

The report went on to state the DOJ kept Congress and the American public in the dark about corrupt Russian nuclear activities happening on U.S. soil during a time when the Obama administration “made two major decisions benefiting Putin’s commercial nuclear ambitions.”



Fake news! Witch hunt! Dont believe what they are telling you! The media always lies! There was no collusion! Just because theres smoke doesnt mean theres fire! Alternative facts! This is a nothingburger! Lets move on - the American people only care about the policies!



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January 15th, 2018 at 1:35:23 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

As is often the case the presidents who
are the most effective, they are often the
least liked. Look at Obama and Carter.
They were pretty well liked as people
and both were horrible at their jobs.
Ass kissers, appeasers, afraid of their
own shadows. Both had dumbo 'couldn't
get out of their own way' presidencies.

I'll take a Trump any day overs bozo's
like Carter and Obama. And She/Her/It
would have been beyond awful, she had
no platform, no ideas except 8 more years
of Obama.



In my opinion, serious students of Carter's career would conclude that he made ZERO mistakes. He knew EXACTLY what he was doing, at all times. And what a calculated image too. Just a peanut farmer. Great smile. Put on a sweater and invite you to his living room, with a cozy fireplace. What a crock. Brilliant, and ruthless. That's why he was picked. One just has to understand who he was working for.
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January 15th, 2018 at 6:47:06 AM permalink
He's golfing again today.

Trumpsters got conned, but are too proud to admit it. Sad!
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January 15th, 2018 at 7:51:34 AM permalink
Quote: ams288

He's golfing again today.

Trumpsters got conned, but are too proud to admit it. Sad!



It’s a holiday. He doing the same thing as most other Government workers today, getting paid to do nothing. Which actually should make you happy.
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January 15th, 2018 at 7:58:15 AM permalink
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It’s a holiday. He doing the same thing as most other Government workers today, getting paid to do nothing. Which actually should make you happy.



Yep donald has turned the highest office in the land into his own private welfare fraud

$200k+ to do nothing but dozens of golfing trips
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January 15th, 2018 at 8:09:19 AM permalink
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It’s a holiday. He doing the same thing as most other Government workers today, getting paid to do nothing. Which actually should make you happy.



Hey! At least you're admitting that he does nothing while golfing. No more of this "multitasking" B.S. so many righties here keep pushing.

And I like that he constantly golfs. He's too lazy and dumb to actually do his job well, which keeps him from accomplishing much as Prez. That keeps me happy.
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January 15th, 2018 at 8:11:17 AM permalink
FYI - he was also golfing on Saturday while the residents of Hawaii thought they were about to die in a nuclear holocaust.

MAGA!
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January 15th, 2018 at 8:55:51 AM permalink
Quote: ams288

FYI - he was also golfing on Saturday while the residents of Hawaii thought they were about to die in a nuclear holocaust.

MAGA!






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January 15th, 2018 at 9:23:42 AM permalink
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January 15th, 2018 at 11:01:03 AM permalink
I think that the worst part of it is that when Trump goes to Trump Hotel, MariLago or to Trump National, the government has to pay TrumpCo for security, including golf carts, accomodations, etc, and I am betting it is full rate.

He never set up the blind trust and never divested himself from his business empire, making all of his actions as CIC subject to personal interests. But that's the least of our concerns today.

As for the Hill story on Uranium and Russia, ALL business activity in Russia is corrupt in some form or another. Putin is the richest person on the planet. Therefore, having any ties to foreign interests is suspect. And let's remember that before the invasion of Crimea, the actions in Syria, and the 2016 election, the United States was at peace with Russia and did not consider them as enemies. Canada allowed for the sale of the its uranium company to Russia without the same concern, and unlike the United States where people profit from personal interests, there is very little political corruption in Canada.

The question is would a donation to the Clinton Foundation influence decisions made Hillary when she was at State? The right has been asking that question for years, and the answer has always been "we don't know".

This is the thing about geopolitics that people don't understand. Just because a government is bad doesn't mean America should cut off all ties with the government. By doing this, you allow other interests to gain more influence on that government's politics. Take Pakistan. The country harbors terrorists. But by giving up on Pakistan, you allow Russia and China to influence policy there, and then you can't fly US assets over the country, meaning that the only way into Afghan airspace is via Iran (no), China (no), or Turkmanistan + Azerbaijan (no). The same is true in the middle east. The US has to have some ally there where jets can land or fly over to exercise its military might.

Since the wall came down in '87 up to the time that Russia invaded Crimea the US has been at absolute peace with the Russians. This allowed for trade and growth between the two countries and includes things like the purchase and sale of companies, even to purchase raw materials used for Defense purposes, like Uranium, even though governments knew that Putin and its cronies were likely profiting.
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January 15th, 2018 at 11:12:27 AM permalink
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That evaluation is steadily being vindicated. The latest is example is the increase in indictements in the Uranium One case:
The Hill reported the “FBI had gathered substantial evidence that Russian nuclear industry officials were engaged in bribery, kickbacks, extortion and money laundering designed to grow Vladimir Putin’s atomic energy business inside the United States.” The report added:

Federal agents used a confidential U.S. witness working inside the Russian nuclear industry to gather extensive financial records, make secret recordings and intercept emails as early as 2009 that showed Moscow had compromised an American uranium trucking firm with bribes and kickbacks in violation of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, FBI and court documents show.

They also obtained an eyewitness account — backed by documents — indicating Russian nuclear officials had routed millions of dollars to the U.S. designed to benefit former President Bill Clinton’s charitable foundation during the time Secretary of State Hillary Clinton served on a government body that provided a favorable decision to Moscow, sources told The Hill.

The report went on to state the DOJ kept Congress and the American public in the dark about corrupt Russian nuclear activities happening on U.S. soil during a time when the Obama administration “made two major decisions benefiting Putin’s commercial nuclear ambitions.”



Fake news! Witch hunt! Dont believe what they are telling you! The media always lies! There was no collusion! Just because theres smoke doesnt mean theres fire! Alternative facts! This is a nothingburger! Lets move on - the American people only care about the policies!



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I am for ALL investigations
We cant trust anybody in Washington DC
Everybody should be for investigated
I lean left
yet
I was all for the Ken Starr investigation
I was for the Benghazi investigation
I am for the Mueller investigation

To be for conservative investigations and against lib investigations is hypocritical
We should be for ALL investigations because power corrupts regardless if its a Dem or Rep
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January 15th, 2018 at 11:27:39 AM permalink
Quote: ams288

FYI - he was also golfing on Saturday while the residents of Hawaii thought they were about to die in a nuclear holocaust.

MAGA!



You going to blame him for the Saints collapse too?
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January 15th, 2018 at 12:15:28 PM permalink
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You going to blame him for the Saints collapse too?



Why not? Trump and righties keep blaming obama for things he didnt do while claiming credit for the great things he did do like repairing the economy
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January 15th, 2018 at 12:39:14 PM permalink
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Why not? Trump and righties keep blaming obama for things he didnt do while claiming credit for the great things he did do like repairing the economy



Nonsense. Everyone knows that the United States was an apocalyptic hellscape between the years of 2008-2016.
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January 15th, 2018 at 12:49:18 PM permalink
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.....Since the wall came down in '87 up to the time that Russia invaded Crimea the US has been at absolute peace with the Russians.

Nobody invaded Crimea. Crimea was a Russian speaking majority that voted to rejoin Russia, do to family and historic ties. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean_status_referendum,_2014

"The official result from the Autonomous Republic of Crimea was a 96.77 percent vote for integration of the region into the Russian Federation with an 83.1 percent voter turnout.[a]"
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January 15th, 2018 at 1:18:48 PM permalink
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Nobody invaded Crimea. Crimea was a Russian speaking majority that voted to rejoin Russia, do to family and historic ties. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean_status_referendum,_2014

"The official result from the Autonomous Republic of Crimea was a 96.77 percent vote for integration of the region into the Russian Federation with an 83.1 percent voter turnout.[a]"



From the same article.

A controversial referendum on the status of Crimea was held on March 16, 2014, by the legislature of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea and by the local government of Sevastopol (both subdivisions of Ukraine). The referendum requested local populations whether they wanted to join Russia as a federal subject, or if they wanted to restore the 1992 Crimean constitution and Crimea's status as a part of Ukraine. After the events of Euromaidan, the referendum was held during a Russian military takeover of Crimea.[3][4] The referendum was not internationally recognized by most countries.[5]

The Russian military didn't invade The Crimea. It simply took it over.
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January 16th, 2018 at 12:11:20 PM permalink
Just another porn star, who claims to be able to describe things only someone who has seen trump naked could do...

Summary:

- 2006 celeb golf outing he cheated on Melania with porn star, and turned it in to a year long affair.
- 2017 trump admin bribes porn star $130k to keep quiet. She agrees and signs a document stating "never done anything with trump."
- 2018 she realizes she's been stalled, and never been paid... she is now speaking out about the affair.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/report-porn-star-said-yearlong-affair-trump-2006-182958520.html

What a guy... he's a real sh*thole.
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January 16th, 2018 at 12:58:41 PM permalink
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Nobody invaded Crimea. Crimea was a Russian speaking majority that voted to rejoin Russia, do to family and historic ties. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean_status_referendum,_2014

"The official result from the Autonomous Republic of Crimea was a 96.77 percent vote for integration of the region into the Russian Federation with an 83.1 percent voter turnout.[a]"



From the same article.

A controversial referendum on the status of Crimea was held on March 16, 2014, by the legislature of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea and by the local government of Sevastopol (both subdivisions of Ukraine). The referendum requested local populations whether they wanted to join Russia as a federal subject, or if they wanted to restore the 1992 Crimean constitution and Crimea's status as a part of Ukraine. After the events of Euromaidan, the referendum was held during a Russian military takeover of Crimea.[3][4] The referendum was not internationally recognized by most countries.[5]

The Russian military didn't invade The Crimea. It simply took it over.



Most international watchdogs including disinterested parties in the United Nations state that the referendum was illegitimate. It would like a referendum for British Columbia to join the United States with US solidiers at the polling station. This violates Canada's sovereignty and guarantees a forced result.

From what you are saying, it sounds like you support the idea of a part of a nation to be invaded and forced to hold a referendum to secede by the invading party. So, if Canadians decided to invade Point Roberts, WA and told them to hold a referendum to join Canada (which many Point Roberts residents want to do), you would expect the US to validate the result?
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January 16th, 2018 at 1:02:02 PM permalink
So here are a few excuses I've seen from Trump supporters regarding the things he does and says:

"He's done more in one year than Obama did in eight, so I don't care what he does."

"He's not a socialist, so I don't care what he does."

"I'm getting a tax refund this year, which is something that would never happen under Obama, so I don't care what he does."


And here's a hilarious bonus quote I saw just this morning in a comment section about Trump's golfing:

"Obama golfed more than every other president before him combined."
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January 16th, 2018 at 1:03:43 PM permalink
Quote: Romes

Just another porn star, who claims to be able to describe things only someone who has seen trump naked could do...

Summary:

- 2006 celeb golf outing he cheated on Melania with porn star, and turned it in to a year long affair.
- 2017 trump admin bribes porn star $130k to keep quiet. She agrees and signs a document stating "never done anything with trump."
- 2018 she realizes she's been stalled, and never been paid... she is now speaking out about the affair.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/report-porn-star-said-yearlong-affair-trump-2006-182958520.html

What a guy... he's a real sh*thole.



In the same story, she denied the hole (sic) thing.

I put this in as "fake news". Actually, as I have said before, tales of sexual immorality with Trump is simply a double standard. We accepted it in Clinton (who had a multitude of affairs) and Kennedy. We know that Trump is a misogynistic sleaze who could no longer carry a career in Hollywood. But that isn't important. His current actions as president are what one needs to keep the eyeball on. This is just a distraction.
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January 16th, 2018 at 1:07:45 PM permalink
Responding to Romes.... I read the article you linked.... So she was extorting him, and he has a letter she signed saying nothing happened, and he didn't pay the extortion? Seems how I read it..... If that is her letter and her signature..... how much credibility do you give this woman who sells her body for money? That now she is changing her mind? Am I missing something?
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January 16th, 2018 at 1:30:51 PM permalink
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Responding to Romes.... I read the article you linked.... So she was extorting him, and he has a letter she signed saying nothing happened, and he didn't pay the extortion? Seems how I read it..... If that is her letter and her signature..... how much credibility do you give this woman who sells her body for money? That now she is changing her mind? Am I missing something?



I give her more credibility than Trump who is a proven liar over and over again. You are stating that women in the sex industry have no credibility. Given that Trump was in a video for Playboy and also has several photos with those in the sex trade industry simply disproves your 2nd point.

But none of this matters.
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January 16th, 2018 at 1:31:51 PM permalink
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Responding to Romes.... I read the article you linked.... So she was extorting him, and he has a letter she signed saying nothing happened, and he didn't pay the extortion? Seems how I read it..... If that is her letter and her signature..... how much credibility do you give this woman who sells her body for money? That now she is changing her mind? Am I missing something?



I know if i didn't sleep with a woman i wouldn't need her to sign a document stating that. The fact they made her sign it makes it look like he was bribing her to keep silent

Even if she was threatening him with something that didnt happen it makes no sense.
Woman:"im going to lie and tell everyone we had an affair
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January 16th, 2018 at 1:41:08 PM permalink
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Nobody invaded Crimea. Crimea was a Russian speaking majority that voted to rejoin Russia, do to family and historic ties. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean_status_referendum,_2014

"The official result from the Autonomous Republic of Crimea was a 96.77 percent vote for integration of the region into the Russian Federation with an 83.1 percent voter turnout.[a]"



From the same article.

A controversial referendum on the status of Crimea was held on March 16, 2014, by the legislature of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea and by the local government of Sevastopol (both subdivisions of Ukraine). The referendum requested local populations whether they wanted to join Russia as a federal subject, or if they wanted to restore the 1992 Crimean constitution and Crimea's status as a part of Ukraine. After the events of Euromaidan, the referendum was held during a Russian military takeover of Crimea.[3][4] The referendum was not internationally recognized by most countries.[5]

The Russian military didn't invade The Crimea. It simply took it over.



Most international watchdogs including disinterested parties in the United Nations state that the referendum was illegitimate. It would like a referendum for British Columbia to join the United States with US solidiers at the polling station. This violates Canada's sovereignty and guarantees a forced result.

From what you are saying, it sounds like you support the idea of a part of a nation to be invaded and forced to hold a referendum to secede by the invading party. So, if Canadians decided to invade Point Roberts, WA and told them to hold a referendum to join Canada (which many Point Roberts residents want to do), you would expect the US to validate the result?



What ,in the wide world of sports, leads you to believe I support the Russian takeover?
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January 16th, 2018 at 2:25:30 PM permalink
Quote: petroglyph

Nobody invaded Crimea. Crimea was a Russian speaking majority that voted to rejoin Russia, do to family and historic ties.



Anyone believe the U.S wasn't behind that disastrous revolution?

This is classy Victoria Nuland, US-Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs, planning the future government of Ukraine.

“I don’t think Klitch’ (Andre Klitschko) should go into the government. I don’t think it’s a good idea.”

“F@#K the E.U.” at 3:00
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January 16th, 2018 at 2:54:58 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

I know if i didn't sleep with a woman i wouldn't need her to sign a document stating that. The fact they made her sign it makes it look like he was bribing her to keep silent

Even if she was threatening him with something that didnt happen it makes no sense.
Woman:"im going to lie and tell everyone we had an affair
Trump:"okay do you mind signing something saying you didnt. I will even pay you for it"



First of all, if you made me guess, I'd guess he was banging her and others as well. But the fact she SIGNED something explicitly stating nothing went on is FAR different than just signing a non disclosure agreement. And I can easily see a woman now seeing DJT as an easy target for extortion, even with no real act or any evidence.
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January 16th, 2018 at 3:30:54 PM permalink
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First of all, if you made me guess, I'd guess he was banging her and others as well. But the fact she SIGNED something explicitly stating nothing went on is FAR different than just signing a non disclosure agreement. And I can easily see a woman now seeing DJT as an easy target for extortion, even with no real act or any evidence.



I also can see women viewing djt as easy extortion

What i don't see is djt easily agreeing to pay any woman who comes out of the woodwork. Especially since he is known for just denying everything including statements hes already been recorded as saying. So why pay a woman and obtain signed documents. That seems suspicious
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January 16th, 2018 at 4:55:34 PM permalink
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What i don't see is djt easily agreeing to pay any woman who comes out of the woodwork. Especially since he is known for just denying everything including statements hes already been recorded as saying. So why pay a woman and obtain signed documents. That seems suspicious



Bingo. The fact that he actually went through with this and made it official tells me there's something there. But it doesn't really matter. His base couldn't care less and the other 65% of us thinks he's a disgrace anyway.
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January 16th, 2018 at 5:03:00 PM permalink
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Bingo. The fact that he actually went through with this and made it official tells me there's something there. But it doesn't really matter. His base couldn't care less and the other 65% of us thinks he's a disgrace anyway.



Yeah

Double bingo!
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January 16th, 2018 at 5:54:41 PM permalink
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Nobody invaded Crimea. Crimea was a Russian speaking majority that voted to rejoin Russia, do to family and historic ties. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean_status_referendum,_2014

"The official result from the Autonomous Republic of Crimea was a 96.77 percent vote for integration of the region into the Russian Federation with an 83.1 percent voter turnout.[a]"



From the same article.

A controversial referendum on the status of Crimea was held on March 16, 2014, by the legislature of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea and by the local government of Sevastopol (both subdivisions of Ukraine). The referendum requested local populations whether they wanted to join Russia as a federal subject, or if they wanted to restore the 1992 Crimean constitution and Crimea's status as a part of Ukraine. After the events of Euromaidan, the referendum was held during a Russian military takeover of Crimea.[3][4] The referendum was not internationally recognized by most countries.[5]

The Russian military didn't invade The Crimea. It simply took it over.



Most international watchdogs including disinterested parties in the United Nations state that the referendum was illegitimate. It would like a referendum for British Columbia to join the United States with US solidiers at the polling station. This violates Canada's sovereignty and guarantees a forced result.

From what you are saying, it sounds like you support the idea of a part of a nation to be invaded and forced to hold a referendum to secede by the invading party. So, if Canadians decided to invade Point Roberts, WA and told them to hold a referendum to join Canada (which many Point Roberts residents want to do), you would expect the US to validate the result?

Kruschev for some unknown reason, just gave Crimea to Ukraine, in 1954, probably thinking that the USSR, would never break up? 60% of Crimean's are ethnic Russian. I'm going by, it's not our business. And Russia will never give up it's naval base in the Black sea at Sevastopol, without all out armed conflict.
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January 16th, 2018 at 6:14:25 PM permalink
Trump would never mess around with a porn star. The dude is a germaphobe to the Nth degree. Always has been. He is also very traditional in his relationships.
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January 16th, 2018 at 6:21:17 PM permalink
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Trump would never mess around with a porn star. The dude is a germaphobe to the Nth degree. Always has been. He is also very traditional in his relationships.



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January 16th, 2018 at 7:32:20 PM permalink
They're claiming Donald is 6 foot 3.

Obama is 6 foot 1.

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January 16th, 2018 at 7:41:07 PM permalink
He is 6 foot 2........Melania is 5 foot 11same as Michael Obama. Funny how one looks like a Sasquatch and the other one doesn't.
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January 16th, 2018 at 7:44:25 PM permalink
Quote: ams288

They're claiming Donald is 6 foot 3.

Obama is 6 foot 1.



When I read the following, it reminded me of the Creationist argument of intelligent design when they point how everything is just so.

Quote:

At 6’3” and 239 pounds, Trump’s BMI is 29.9, exactly 0.1 units shy of one big league distinction: obesity. Remarkably, the president was found to be exactly 1 pound lighter than a weight that would have pushed him over the edge to receive the diagnosis of obesity. Similarly, if he were merely 1/10 of an inch shorter, he would also be considered obese.

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January 16th, 2018 at 7:50:11 PM permalink
I'm claiming 3 of them are actually men( not Melania). Notice how Michelle/ Michael Obama is wearing an oversised coat and Michelle/Michael is trying to hide whats really under there?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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January 16th, 2018 at 8:02:17 PM permalink
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I'm claiming 3 of them are actually men( not Melania). Notice how Michelle/ Michael Obama is wearing an oversised coat and Michelle/Michael is trying to hide whats really under there?



Yeah but where is Trump's left hand?
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January 16th, 2018 at 8:04:03 PM permalink
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Yeah but where is Trump's left hand?


You need glasses. 😎
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January 16th, 2018 at 8:10:44 PM permalink
Or a bigger screen. Could be Obama's third hand.
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January 16th, 2018 at 8:52:52 PM permalink
Quote: rxwine

Yeah but where is Trump's left hand?


He's giving Mr. Obama (not to be confused with Michael Obama) a quick handy. I think all love is beautiful.
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January 16th, 2018 at 9:06:05 PM permalink
Quote: rxwine

Yeah but where is Trump's left hand?



On his left side. Looks like he has it on his wallet. Can't say as I blame him.
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January 16th, 2018 at 9:31:24 PM permalink
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On his left side. Looks like he has it on his wallet. Can't say as I blame him.



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January 16th, 2018 at 10:10:11 PM permalink
I was going to concede I was bested until the suggestion Trump is acting like a racist worried about a black man near his wallet.
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January 16th, 2018 at 10:50:01 PM permalink
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I was going to concede I was bested until the suggestion Trump is acting like a racist worried about a black man near his wallet.



Comment had nothing to do with race. Democrats are dangerous to a wallet.
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January 16th, 2018 at 11:16:11 PM permalink
Why does everything have to be about race? Smh.

Quote: rxwine

I was going to concede I was bested until the suggestion Trump is acting like a racist worried about a black man near his wallet.


Two* black men.

Edit: Didn't realize Michael Obama was so far away from Trump & Barry. I suppose "her" man shoulders made "her" look closer to them somehow.
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January 16th, 2018 at 11:17:13 PM permalink
Also I forgot Trump is the least racist person you'd ever meet.
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January 17th, 2018 at 3:34:00 AM permalink
Quote: rxwine

Also I forgot Trump is the least racist person you'd ever meet.



Im sorry but this is one of the most racist threads on WOV

Intentionally racist most likely

At best as unintentional as an H&M ad
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