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TigerWu
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November 27th, 2017 at 3:08:03 PM permalink
Hoo-boy....

"We should have a contest as to which of the Networks, plus CNN and not including Fox, is the most dishonest, corrupt and/or distorted in its political coverage of your favorite President (me). They are all bad. Winner to receive the FAKE NEWS TROPHY!"

-- Donald Trump
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November 27th, 2017 at 3:32:25 PM permalink
"Pocahontas?"

Really?!

Donny baby, you've simply GOT to start using your brain as a filter.
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TigerWu
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November 27th, 2017 at 3:37:21 PM permalink
Quote: MrV

"Pocahontas?"

Really?!

Donny baby, you've simply GOT to start using your brain as a filter.



And he actually said it right to their faces...

He HAS to have dementia or something. There's no other logical explanation.
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November 27th, 2017 at 3:51:04 PM permalink
I wouldn't put it past him giving them Washington Redskin jerseys during their visit.
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November 27th, 2017 at 4:41:05 PM permalink
Quote: MrV

"Pocahontas?"

Really?!

Donny baby, you've simply GOT to start using your brain as a filter.



Because someone’s vote changed over this? I believe it only reinforced the reasons why many of us voted for him. And if you didn’t this doesn’t change your hatred of him, even if your 401k is up 23.7% under President Trump. Of course if you cleaned balls for a living for more years than any human should ever have to, no amount of money will make it better.

PS V, if I ever need a lawyer on the Pacific Coast, your my guy.
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November 27th, 2017 at 5:00:17 PM permalink
LMAO

The bull market is 103 months old. Trump owns 11 of them.

Does Trump have anything to do with recent gains? You could make that argument, that his election put confidence in Wall Street. But since he has passed ZERO major pieces of legislation with control over all branches of government, that's all it would be... an argument.
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November 27th, 2017 at 6:23:48 PM permalink
Quote: Boz

Because someone’s vote changed over this? I believe it only reinforced the reasons why many of us voted for him.



Yeah, I have to agree with Boz. This moronic aside didn't lose him any support. At this point, Donald's remaining supporters like when he spews racial slurs...
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November 27th, 2017 at 7:14:58 PM permalink
S&P 500 is up 17.56% year/year from 31-Oct 2016 to 31-Oct-2017 (Trump elected)
S&P 500 was up 27.5% year/year from 31-Oct-2012 to 31-Oct-2013 (Obama reelected)
S&P 500 was up 22.5% year/year from 31-Oct-2008 to 31-Oct-2009 (Obama elected).

Conclusion: Obama should have served a third term?

S&P at 825.88 as of 1-Jan-2009
S&P at 2,278.87 as of 1-Jan-2017

+176%, or an annual compound return of 13.49% over 8 years.

S&P is only up 14.8% since inauguration day. Come on, man.
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November 28th, 2017 at 5:24:05 AM permalink
Markets rise and fall like bankrolls. The better indicator is GDP Growth.

The S&P increase during the Obama years followed a 37% loss in 2009, and was due almost entirely to Quantitative Easing, where the Fed injected $4.5 trillion into the economy, driving down interest rates. The Fed caused 93% of entire stock market's move since 2008

Corporations that borrowed at low interest were expected to invest in R&D, real estate and job creation. Instead, they spent it on share buy backs and executive bonuses. They're still doing it. NY Post

"He had opportunities to help the working class, and he passed them up." WAPO

The crash test will come in 2018, as the Fed plans to reduce it's balance sheet by $2 trillion through 2022.
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November 29th, 2017 at 10:14:53 AM permalink
In the last 12 hours, Donald Trump has called for a boycott of CNN, retweeted three videos from a niche, far-right, British hate group, and all but accused Joe Scarborough of murder.

This is the President of the United States doing this. All in just the last 12 hours.

I'd like to say this stuff is shocking, but at this point if I woke up tomorrow with my head sewn to the carpet I wouldn't be more surprised. And we still have 3-7 more years of this. Hope you guys are stocked up on popcorn and alcohol! At least his utter insanity doesn't seem to be having any effect on the stock market.
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November 29th, 2017 at 10:16:36 AM permalink
And to add to the anti-muslim videos he retweeted... when asked about whether the videos were real, Sarah Sanders said it didn't matter if they were real or not, it's a real threat.

So..... is fake news ok or not???? I guess only when tweeted by the President.

smh
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November 29th, 2017 at 10:24:59 AM permalink
The irony is that, statistically speaking, radical Islamic terrorism isn't even really a threat in the west.

But, boy howdy, does it sure rile up the base.
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November 29th, 2017 at 10:34:51 AM permalink
Quote: rsactuary

And to add to the anti-muslim videos he retweeted... when asked about whether the videos were real, Sarah Sanders said it didn't matter if they were real or not, it's a real threat.

So..... is fake news ok or not???? I guess only when tweeted by the President.

smh



It's all diversion. Trump's chumming the water in all directions. If the media is talking about sex scandals, muslim rabble-rousing, personal attacks, whatever skunks Trump can run over, they're NOT talking about stuff that matters. Chances are something really ugly is actually happening.

I'd bet on one of 4 things, maybe more than one.

1. Mike Flynn defection has really turned up the heat in Muller's investigation. They would only give Flynn protection if he can nail Trump himself.
2. North Korea is freaking them out, and China is refusing to play.
3. The tax bill is horrific but likely to pass if people keep obsessing about diversions.
4. The damage being done to all govt agencies is close to complete, and like a termite ridden house, the whole thing is about to collapse.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
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November 29th, 2017 at 10:55:13 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs


I'd bet on one of 4 things, maybe more than one.

1. Mike Flynn defection has really turned up the heat in Muller's investigation. They would only give Flynn protection if he can nail Trump himself.
2. North Korea is freaking them out, and China is refusing to play.
3. The tax bill is horrific but likely to pass if people keep obsessing about diversions.
4. The damage being done to all govt agencies is close to complete, and like a termite ridden house, the whole thing is about to collapse.



My money's on 3 and 4. The Trump administration doesn't want people to pay attention to how they are destroying Washington due to their own incompetence.

I think the Meuller investigation is more bark than bite. I don't think anything substantial will come of it. I'm certainly not holding my breath on that angle.

Same with North Korea. More barking than biting, the usual posturing from Fat Boy Kim, a few temporary sanctions to keep them in line, etc. Just a little bit more intense than usual what the missiles they've been shooting into the ocean, but basically more of the same.
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November 29th, 2017 at 8:21:01 PM permalink
If there is a plot to get Moore out of the race with fake accusations, why didn't our liberal army recruit 100 women to claim Trump groped them from behind.

I'm really disappointed with our liberal army of saboteurs.
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November 29th, 2017 at 8:26:18 PM permalink
Quote: rxwine

If there is a plot to get Moore out of the race with fake accusations, why didn't our liberal army recruit 100 women to claim Trump groped them from behind.

I'm really disappointed with our liberal army of saboteurs.


Maybe they did? O_O
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November 30th, 2017 at 7:29:31 AM permalink
Money talks, even if it's craziness. So, the people around him will continue to call him a genius his whole life and he will believe it. He has no other life experience. Next time you smile at a kid acting up, think of the Trumps of the world.
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November 30th, 2017 at 8:49:47 AM permalink
Tillerson is getting the boot. Right now, if reports are correct.

This is probably very bad news. I don't think he was doing a particularly good job, but at least he was trying diplomacy. And he was almost completely hamstrung by Trump's effort to gut the State Dept, including refusing to let Tillerson bring in the staff he wanted.

CIA Chief Mike Pompao is expected to replace him.
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November 30th, 2017 at 11:57:03 AM permalink
Quote: 1MatterToMotion

Money talks, even if it's craziness. So, the people around him will continue to call him a genius his whole life and he will believe it. He has no other life experience. Next time you smile at a kid acting up, think of the Trumps of the world.



The ironic thing is that the people around him are not calling him a genius. "Idiot" and "f**king moron" are just a couple of the terms that have been made public.

The guy is clearly beneath the office of the POTUS.
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November 30th, 2017 at 2:01:12 PM permalink
He's been "programmed" or fundamentally messed with. Outside involvement only reinforces cult thinking. "They are against us, so we/I must be right." Cult leaders tell their people that the world wants to bring them down, in the sense it's a self-fulfilling or in-your-face prophecy.
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November 30th, 2017 at 2:31:59 PM permalink
Anyone get the idea this thread may still be going in, I don't know, December 2023?

MA-GA!
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November 30th, 2017 at 4:11:42 PM permalink
Quote: 1MatterToMotion

Money talks, even if it's craziness. So, the people around him will continue to call him a genius his whole life and he will believe it. He has no other life experience. Next time you smile at a kid acting up, think of the Trumps of the world.


Sometimes I think about the amount of money it would take for me to sell out to a ridiculous job that goes against much of what I believe, a job like a Trump yes-man, or Chris Christie’s human m&m dispenser, or Ted Nugent’s personal assistant.

I think my number would be around $175k/yr. Maybe $150k for Ted Nugent since I bet a lot of it would be getting drunk and shooting guns. I guess I’m a cheap sellout.
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November 30th, 2017 at 4:35:45 PM permalink
Quote: mcallister3200

Anyone get the idea this thread may still be going in, I don't know, December 2023?

MA-GA!



The only way hes getting elected again with 33% favorability is if the election is rigged or he has help from russia
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November 30th, 2017 at 4:54:48 PM permalink
Whether Trump is elected or not, he's done a fine job of exposing the hatred and rampant bigotry on the left.

I rather like Trump and so far so does my portfolio. I hope he keeps up the good work.
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November 30th, 2017 at 5:02:10 PM permalink
Quote: mcallister3200

Anyone get the idea this thread may still be going in, I don't know, December 2023?

MA-GA!



I have $1,000 that says its not. Can't seem to find a trump supporter willing to wager.
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November 30th, 2017 at 5:09:37 PM permalink
Quote: mcallister3200

Anyone get the idea this thread may still be going in, I don't know, December 2023?

MA-GA!



Donald is so old and fat, we may need a "Trump's final 100 days.... of life" thread before then!
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November 30th, 2017 at 7:06:57 PM permalink
Quote: ams288

Donald is so old and fat, we may need a "Trump's final 100 days.... of life" thread before then!




Yep, sure. Regardless I suspect some people need a little reminding of how sure they were the last time they predicted that he would lose. LOL.

Reminder

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-2uSG1xUEg
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November 30th, 2017 at 7:14:14 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

I have $1,000 that says its not. Can't seem to find a trump supporter willing to wager.


Just pay off a biased admin to close the thread before then. Zing!

That was a joke.
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November 30th, 2017 at 7:45:41 PM permalink
Quote: Keyser

Yep, sure. Regardless I suspect some people need a little reminding of how sure they were the last time they predicted that he would lose. LOL.

Reminder

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-2uSG1xUEg



Sounds like u suffer from voters fallacy
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November 30th, 2017 at 9:16:43 PM permalink
Let me guess, you're one of those people that were so sure that Hillary was going to win against Trump because of Nate's prediction.

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November 30th, 2017 at 10:22:07 PM permalink
Quote: Keyser

Let me guess, you're one of those people that were so sure that Hillary was going to win against Trump because of Nate's prediction.



I don't believe Nate predicted a winner. He assigned probabilities to each candidate, but did not pick a winner.
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November 30th, 2017 at 11:04:08 PM permalink
Nate's a lot like John Edwards. He doesn't really make predictions. He simply makes statements that people remember as predictions when they're correct, and "statements" that people choose to forget when they're not. In other words it depends on the reader as to whether or not his predictions are accurate/real LOL.

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December 1st, 2017 at 12:30:26 AM permalink
Quote: Keyser

Let me guess, you're one of those people that were so sure that Hillary was going to win against Trump because of Nate's prediction.



You put money on Romney winning, imo, and didn't pay off. So explain why please? I know all the mods are on my side here. So good luck.

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/general/12437-the-poll-the-bet-keyser-or-mission146/
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December 1st, 2017 at 12:52:48 AM permalink
Quote: tringlomane

Quote: Keyser

Let me guess, you're one of those people that were so sure that Hillary was going to win against Trump because of Nate's prediction.



You put money on Romney winning, imo, and didn't pay off. So explain why please? I know all the mods are on my side here. So good luck.

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/general/12437-the-poll-the-bet-keyser-or-mission146/


That was what, 5 years ago? And he already gave his explanation.
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December 1st, 2017 at 5:54:27 AM permalink
Quote: RS

That was what, 5 years ago? And he already gave his explanation.



I suspect that 5 years after Donald's 80,000 vote electoral college victory, the righties here will still try to rub it in the face of the lefties.

Based on his lack of accomplishments during his first year in office, it's likely to be literally the only thing they will have to brag about
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December 1st, 2017 at 6:26:06 AM permalink
Breaking: Michael Flynn will plead guilty to making false statements to the FBI regarding conversations with Russia's ambassador.

Lock him up!
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December 1st, 2017 at 6:40:25 AM permalink
This is too good, on Earth 2, Fox is holding President Hillary Clinton accountable:



Almost as good as Fox covering the hamburger emoji while everyone else was in rolling coverage of the Manafort indictment.
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December 1st, 2017 at 7:00:45 AM permalink
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/questions-and-answers/all-other/25807-2016-election-part-ii/397/#post562116
Quote: JimRockford

November 3rd, 2016 at 1:01:19 PMpermalink
The No Toss-Ups map at RCP has Clinton at only 273. I don't see why she has a 69% chance to win. It looks closer than that with momentum going Trump's way. I think election night my go into extra innings.


I won't say I predicted the upst, but by Election Day I could smell it.
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December 1st, 2017 at 7:00:45 AM permalink
Democrat Michael Flynn just flipped! This is the end of Hillary for sure! The Madman strikes again!
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December 1st, 2017 at 7:08:41 AM permalink
Absolutely perfect

Here is Fox debunking every other network coverage of Flynn lawyerd refusing to share information with Trump lawyers as proof he is about to flip

They even touted democrat (turncoat) alan dershowitz expert opinion as a lawyer that those claims were nonsense by the left media

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQdn8FoFEds

Just a few days later Flynn flips lol
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December 1st, 2017 at 8:09:46 AM permalink
You got to a complete dumb moron like Trump to lie to the FBI
Its just a forum. Nothing here to get obsessed about.
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December 1st, 2017 at 8:54:05 AM permalink
Flynn to testify Trump 'directed him to make contact with the Russians': report

Seems like we're getting close to the ballgame.
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December 1st, 2017 at 8:59:39 AM permalink
It's just pure comedy at this point how obsessed Fox News is with Hillary.
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December 1st, 2017 at 9:00:09 AM permalink
Quote: ams288

Flynn to testify Trump 'directed him to make contact with the Russians': report

Seems like we're getting close to the ballgame.



This nothingburger sure is juicy.
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December 1st, 2017 at 9:01:12 AM permalink
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Sometimes I think about the amount of money it would take for me to sell out to a ridiculous job that goes against much of what I believe, a job like a Trump yes-man, or Chris Christie’s human m&m dispenser, or Ted Nugent’s personal assistant.

I think my number would be around $175k/yr. Maybe $150k for Ted Nugent since I bet a lot of it would be getting drunk and shooting guns. I guess I’m a cheap sellout.


I'm more likely to say I wouldn't do it because that's not the way I am; and not give much thought to it until it happened, at which point I would give no thought or other resistance to it.
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December 1st, 2017 at 9:09:59 AM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

Quote: ams288

Flynn to testify Trump 'directed him to make contact with the Russians': report

Seems like we're getting close to the ballgame.



This nothingburger sure is juicy.

NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM
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December 1st, 2017 at 9:15:42 AM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

Quote: ams288

Flynn to testify Trump 'directed him to make contact with the Russians': report

Seems like we're getting close to the ballgame.



This nothingburger sure is juicy.



The height of stupidity
Lying to the FBI
WTF
What are these people thinking during an investigation. Hmm, gee, I think I'll lie and go to jail.
What a moron
Its just a forum. Nothing here to get obsessed about.
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December 1st, 2017 at 9:56:49 AM permalink
Quote: terapined

Quote: TigerWu

Quote: ams288

Flynn to testify Trump 'directed him to make contact with the Russians': report

Seems like we're getting close to the ballgame.



This nothingburger sure is juicy.



The height of stupidity
Lying to the FBI
WTF
What are these people thinking during an investigation. Hmm, gee, I think I'll lie and go to jail.
What a moron

Not really. Being objective it was his best play. Think about the 2 outcomes:

1) The lie works, he gets away with whatever and is in amazing grace with trump for lying for him.
2) The lie doesn't, you make a deal to protect yourself 100% by selling trump out.

Win/Win
Playing it correctly means you've already won.
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December 1st, 2017 at 10:35:01 AM permalink
Quote: Romes


1) The lie works, he gets away with whatever and is in amazing grace with trump for lying for him.
2) The lie doesn't, you make a deal to protect yourself 100% by selling trump out.

Win/Win



In fact, it's even better if he gets caught, because then he can write a book about it and profit! Then he can get a sweet gig as an adviser for the movie/s that will inevitably be made about all of this.

EDIT: Also, Trump hasn't tweeted anything in 7 hours, now. Wonder if he's too busy with his lawyers to comment on the situation.
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December 1st, 2017 at 10:50:41 AM permalink
Quote: Romes

Quote: terapined

Quote: TigerWu

Quote: ams288

Flynn to testify Trump 'directed him to make contact with the Russians': report

Seems like we're getting close to the ballgame.



This nothingburger sure is juicy.



The height of stupidity
Lying to the FBI
WTF
What are these people thinking during an investigation. Hmm, gee, I think I'll lie and go to jail.
What a moron

Not really. Being objective it was his best play. Think about the 2 outcomes:

1) The lie works, he gets away with whatever and is in amazing grace with trump for lying for him.
2) The lie doesn't, you make a deal to protect yourself 100% by selling trump out.

Win/Win


WTF
The lie works and you set yourself up to be blackmailed by the Russians that know the truth
Lose/lose
Its just a forum. Nothing here to get obsessed about.
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