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March 10th, 2017 at 7:42:17 AM permalink
Quote: Zcore13

Well, at least the first two plus putting fur on a machine.

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LOL. Post of the month.
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March 10th, 2017 at 8:29:51 AM permalink
Quote: MrV

Yes, indeed.

When slot mfrs. went from coin to TITO, the once common, "exciting" sound of coins dropping into the tray after a win went AWOL.

Heck, you know those metal trays were kept loose so the coins would make far more noise than was necessary. Its good advertising. Bells, whistles, hoops and hollers.... don't expect a burka bedecked coctail waitress to come by and offer you fruit juice in accordance with Allah's mandates. Its going to be an attractive waitress offering you booze. Casinos are there to make money. It used to be that slot machines were there to entertain the wives and girlfriends of craps players as well as the women who were doing their six week residency in order to shed a husband, but no longer. Now slots bring in about half the revenue and never go on strike. The slots are more valuable than any particular player who wants peace and quiet.
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March 10th, 2017 at 10:28:10 AM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

I would do the other way on this. I would make an "every pull wins" machine. Say you have to bet 20 credits at $.05 each to start but you win at least one credit every pull. I could see people loving the "must win" feature and it grinding them down.



Like the kids' machines that at least award a Tootsie Roll for a quarter play? It's still a three-cent Tootsie Roll.
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March 10th, 2017 at 10:30:12 AM permalink
Quote: sabre

I like the privacy curtain idea. But instead of a slot machine inside, how about a woman (or man) behind a glass that dances and gets naked for you?

Also, instead of flashing winner, slots should say degrading and demeaning things to you when you win. But they have to mix those in when you lose as well, or else the low life thieves will catch on.

Also, fur.



The ten pixel (or whatever) Cherry Master girl strips, does that count? No privacy curtain, though.

If you want to combine porn and gambling, and do not live in the United States, I suppose you could try Pornhub Casino.
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March 10th, 2017 at 10:35:26 AM permalink
If I was a slot, I'd like to be Triple Diamond Deluxe machine.
How about you?
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March 10th, 2017 at 10:42:31 AM permalink
Quote: MrV

I'm surprised no casinos have slut slots, i.e. ones with X-rated images / porntoon themes.



Mission has a contribution to make here on this theme, but I hope he doesnt
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March 10th, 2017 at 12:51:19 PM permalink
Quote: Nathan

How would you make the slots better for your core customers, the gamblers? People have said that the core customers are actually the casinos but the core customers are actually the gamblers. Like my childhood friend's older sister once wisely said,"The game cartridge is actually the most important part of the Nintendo. Without the cartridge, the Nintendo is just a useless box."

I would put a "privacy" cover around the slot so that the player will not have unwanted onlookers looking at his game as he plays his slot.The player puts a "Game in progress" sign on the outside for his privacy. That would have helped me out with the guy who was harrassing me as I played about two weeks ago.

I would get rid of the loud and flashing "Big winner" announcement for handpays or just other big wins. Possibly alerting low life thieves to players just minding their business is risky and dangerous.

I would make sure that every win is equal to the bet or higher than the bet. I have always hated the fact that a $1 bet gives you a .20 "win" at times. That is a .80 cent loss, not a win.

So, how would you make slots better for the gamblers if you were a slot manufacturer? :)
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First of all, let me commend you on an excellent idea for a thread.

1.) The privacy cover is a bad idea, (no offense) you want your potential players (casino guests) to see as many machines as possible in the hopes that they spot one they like, and you want them to see other players playing, having a good time and winning. To one of your other points, yes, that does involve a delicate balance between being seen winning and their personal security and them not wanting to get any undue scrutiny when it becomes known they have money.

2.) When it comes to the bells and whistles, I think you definitely need it to be somehow seen that players are hitting jackpots, and have it be announced (though maybe not by name and also perhaps delay the announcement until after the handpay is complete, "Just fifteen minutes ago...") to the patrons. However, I do think that the video screen that some casinos use now to broadcast it, specifically at a few Hollywood properties, is an awful idea. Now, someone with ill-intent does not even need to happen to be near the person to know they have some money.

3.) I would not make every win equal to or greater than the bet because the psychological reinforcement provided by the notion of frequently, "Winning," is important to keep the player engaged.

MY CHANGES:

1.) When we talk about machines saying or displaying, "Huge Win," or some other such verbiage, I would make sure it could actually reasonably be considered that. I fail to see, for example, how 10x the bet is a huge win. A SF on DW pays more than that, usually.

In order to accomplish this, the manufacturers might want to actually poll the players (at least, I would) to determine what the minimum win amount would be for players not to consider it completely absurd. The smiles when this happens are often not joyful, they're sardonic.

2.) I would make it so every machine can be stopped with a double-tap, why do you want people to take longer per spin if they want to rush through it, anyway? There's a little selfishness in that, too, I can't stand it when must-hits are good, but it is one of those that takes eighty-six years per spin.

3.) Does anyone really like sitting through literally hundreds of free games that are worth roughly 1/4th of the initial bet each? Fewer free games, better EV per game. Does anyone like hitting a small amount of free games and winning less than the initial bet!? Every incidence of Free Games also should return the amount of the bet before Free Games even start.

If forced to pick an ideal methodology for Free Games, I don't think it has ever gotten better than Quick Hits Platinum. Although, games with the, 'Bonus Guarantee,' (usually 10x initial bet) are generally fine, too.
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March 10th, 2017 at 12:52:40 PM permalink
Quote: odiousgambit

Mission has a contribution to make here on this theme, but I hope he doesnt



Forget TITO, they'd have to be coin insert games.

(Only because you asked for it)
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March 10th, 2017 at 12:57:41 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146

Forget TITO, they'd have to be coin insert games.

(Only because you asked for it)



I was thinking about the sexual activity you've seen at machines, I think it was keno that seemed to bring it on
"Baccarat is a game whereby the croupier gathers in money with a flexible sculling oar, then rakes it home. If I could have borrowed his oar I would have stayed." .......... Mark Twain
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March 10th, 2017 at 1:04:42 PM permalink
Quote: odiousgambit

I was thinking about the sexual activity you've seen at machines, I think it was keno that seemed to bring it on



Oh, God, just when I had almost gotten that image out of my head.
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