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September 29th, 2016 at 12:35:13 AM permalink
Hillary is accused of cheating in the first debate by colluding and giving hand signals to Lester Holt the moderator. Poker Pro Mike Matsuow agrees: Hillary was giving signals.

WARNING: If you follow the comments in this link there is some offensive language.

"Wow ive watched the debates 3 times & never noticed!! I felt the whole time she had the questions but after watching that i she def signals https://t.co/dOSZlmfB9G"

— Mike Matusow (@themouthmatusow) September 28, 2016



I know they were desperate & i do agree its the same scratch and look at holt everytime https://t.co/dOSZlmfB9G

— Mike Matusow (@themouthmatusow) September 28, 2016

WARNING: Offensive language at this link.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/09/breaking-poker-pro-agrees-hillary-sending-hand-signals-debate-moderator-holt/
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September 29th, 2016 at 1:02:37 AM permalink
I don't know about that. I did notice at least twice Trump sliding his finger against the top lip as if saying shhh.
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September 29th, 2016 at 1:13:49 AM permalink
In other news, the tiny bone conduction radio that Trump hid in his sinuses in order to hear real-time debate coaching from Roger Ailes was later revealed by an anonymous source to have been jarred loose early in the debate. Trump repeatedly needed to forcefully inhale through his nose in order to avoid having the radio fall out onto the podium. This also explains the intermittent interference that Trump noticed with his microphone, as well as the fact that only the first three or four answers Trump gave (as dictated by Ailes) were remotely coherent.
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September 29th, 2016 at 9:24:46 AM permalink
It's very interesting that the video has mysteriously disappeared... Where's my tinfoil hat? Or how do you make one? Does anybody else remember this during the debate? I remember having a momentary thought of "my wife didn't catch that but it's not worth bringing up". I'll be interested if somehow that danged YouTube video works again.
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September 29th, 2016 at 9:53:34 AM permalink
The videos that are showing up now have been muted because of someone throwing the "copyright" card. Same nonsense happened with Hillary's fall on 9/11/2016.
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September 29th, 2016 at 9:56:22 AM permalink
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGkFRs6eng4
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September 29th, 2016 at 10:05:20 AM permalink
Quote: Hullabaloo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGkFRs6eng4
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That's a good one, I've never heard that before. Did you make that up all by yourself? Heh, tin foil hat, very clever. I'm glad you went to the trouble of posting it. Thanks.

So apparently you don't think much of Mike Matusow's reasoning and deduction process. Well, there was the cocaine scandal, that was probably a poor decision, but I thought he was a pretty good poker player. Poker ain't easy, y'know.
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September 29th, 2016 at 10:10:04 AM permalink
Quote: RS

The videos that are showing up now have been muted because of someone throwing the "copyright" card. Same nonsense happened with Hillary's fall on 9/11/2016.




There is audio with the video at the link I posted, it just starts out quiet. I was skeptical at first but the video as a whole is kinda convincing.
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September 29th, 2016 at 10:12:43 AM permalink
Quote: bobbartop

That's a good one, I've never heard that before. Did you make that up all by yourself? Heh, tin foil hat, very clever. I'm glad you went to the trouble of posting it. Thanks.

So apparently you don't think much of Mike Matusow's reasoning and deduction process. Well, there was the cocaine scandal, that was probably a poor decision, but I thought he was a pretty good poker player. Poker ain't easy, y'know.



Did you miss Mooseton's post, the one Hullabaloo was answering?

Quote: Mooseton

It's very interesting that the video has mysteriously disappeared... Where's my tinfoil hat? Or how do you make one? Does anybody else remember this during the debate? I remember having a momentary thought of "my wife didn't catch that but it's not worth bringing up". I'll be interested if somehow that danged YouTube video works again.

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September 29th, 2016 at 10:40:06 AM permalink
I watched the video with an open mind.... and of course it's pure nonsense.

Apparently the "genius" behind this video has no idea how a one-on-one debate works. One candidate says something, then the other candidate is given a chance to respond. They're mad at Lester Holt for not changing the topic before Hillary could respond to Trump's word soup.

This video is actually a great compliment to Hillary's debate performance. She did so well that conspiracy theorists are desperately scrambling to come up with nonsense explanations to attempt to diminish her victory.
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September 29th, 2016 at 11:08:18 AM permalink
Quote: ams288

I watched the video with an open mind.... and of course it's pure nonsense..



With any due respect, from what I have read from you on every post, you never have an open mind with it comes to your liberal views. And yes, I am the same in my views. So lets knock that nonsense out of play.
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September 29th, 2016 at 11:08:27 AM permalink
Quote: ams288

I watched the video with an open mind....



Yes, I've noticed you seem to be one of the more objective posters on the forum.

To be fair, I was skeptical too at first. Until I watched the video. Now I'm not so sure. Maybe her nose itched.
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September 29th, 2016 at 11:17:07 AM permalink
Quote: bobbartop

Maybe her nose itched.




Itched for some of what Donald had before coming on stage!
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September 29th, 2016 at 11:18:53 AM permalink
Quote: Boz

With any due respect, from what I have read from you on every post, you never have an open mind with it comes to your liberal views. And yes, I am the same in my views. So lets knock that nonsense out of play.



I did watch it with an open mind.

It's pure nonsense.

Stuff like this is why no one ever takes right wing conspiracy theories about the Clintons seriously. **coughbodydoublecough**
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September 29th, 2016 at 11:44:14 AM permalink
Not watching it. Don't like hill or trump but like Matusow even less. If you've seen the way he behaves you know he's a piece of shit with little credibility who can be disregarded (with regards to anything that comes out of his mouth.)


Best way to be a "poker pro" is to Luckbox a couple tournaments and get sponsored. Probably 90%+ of the "tournament pros" you see on TV would be net losers after travel/entry expenses(read some negraneau stuff to see this inglorious side explained) I tend to think very poorly of poker players in general so take it with a grain of salt. Cash poker players are legit but still most are delusional and it's somewhere between the level of a low-medium level vp specialist or card counter.
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September 29th, 2016 at 11:50:53 AM permalink
Quote: mcallister3200

Not watching it. Don't like hill or trump but like Matusow even less. If you've seen the way he behaves you know he's a piece of shit with little credibility who can be disregarded (with regards to anything that comes out of his mouth.)


Best way to be a "poker pro" is to Luckbox a couple tournaments and get sponsored. Probably 90%+ of the "tournament pros" you see on TV would be net losers after travel/entry expenses(read some negraneau stuff to see this inglorious side explained) I tend to think very poorly of poker players in general so take it with a grain of salt. Cash poker players are legit but still most are delusional and it's somewhere between the level of a low-medium level vp specialist or card counter.



I certainly cannot disagree with you. If you want to turn into a cynical and jaded human being, just hang around poker players all your life. It worked for me.
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September 29th, 2016 at 12:47:50 PM permalink
This one worked

Why would the cleaner guy give Lester Holt her notepad at the end of the debate(at the end of this video)?
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September 29th, 2016 at 12:55:24 PM permalink
Quote: Mooseton

This one worked

Why would the cleaner guy give Lester Holt her notepad at the end of the debate(at the end of this video)?



Don't know if that is anything or not. Couldn't really see him giving Holt the papers. Maybe he did. Or didn't.

But that guy was pretty suspicious lookin'! Whether he was doing something bad or not, he got that face like "Damn you people making me do this, everyone's watching me, I'm gonna be in such big trouble." Kinda like the first time a card counter goes to play & spread, feels guilty / everyone's watching. Lol
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September 29th, 2016 at 1:08:13 PM permalink
Quote: Mooseton

This one worked

Why would the cleaner guy give Lester Holt her notepad at the end of the debate(at the end of this video)?




Wow, that is pretty interesting. The "little cleaner man" and Lester Holt. Thank you for posting this.
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September 29th, 2016 at 1:18:21 PM permalink
Quote: RS

Quote: Mooseton

This one worked

Why would the cleaner guy give Lester Holt her notepad at the end of the debate(at the end of this video)?



Don't know if that is anything or not. Couldn't really see him giving Holt the papers. Maybe he did. Or didn't.

But that guy was pretty suspicious lookin'! Whether he was doing something bad or not, he got that face like "Damn you people making me do this, everyone's watching me, I'm gonna be in such big trouble." Kinda like the first time a card counter goes to play & spread, feels guilty / everyone's watching. Lol



Exactly! You know that look when you see it. That guy looks very guilty of something. Just watched a couple other videos like that. What was in/on that podium? Why did guilty looking dude keep going back to it after he rushed away/was rushed away because the scary reporter with a camera was coming?

How's that saying go? "The eyes are the portal into viewing someone's soul" er something like that. Look at their eyes.
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September 29th, 2016 at 1:27:12 PM permalink
RE: the cleaner.

Gimme a friggin break!

That's someone from Hillary's campaign. He obviously rushed to get the notes she took during the debate so no one else could get them. Imagine if a Trump operative got their hands on them. Could be valuable information on her thinking/attack lines and debate prep in there.

And the video doesn't show him giving the notepad to Lester. That's just stupid.

Oh look! There's already a snopes page for this nonsense:

http://www.snopes.com/debate-secret-hand-signals/
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September 29th, 2016 at 1:57:23 PM permalink
Quote: ams288

I watched the video with an open mind.... and of course it's pure nonsense.



The Hillary is dying meme was sinking fast; they needed a new meme.
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September 29th, 2016 at 2:02:04 PM permalink
Quote: ams288

I watched the video with an open mind....

Did you really just type that with a straight face?


That video sometimes made her look like a pushover who keeps changing the subject. Other Times she looked as if she had this annoying dumb smug look on her face.

My GF doesn't like Trump at all(other than his show) but she agreed she had a smug arrogant dumb look on her face.
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September 29th, 2016 at 2:32:14 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Did you really just type that with a straight face?



Yes.

This nonsense just proves Hillary kicked Trump's ass in the debate. Righties are now trying to undermine her win by making up wild conspiracy theories.
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September 29th, 2016 at 3:13:38 PM permalink
Quote: ams288

Yes.

This nonsense just proves Hillary kicked Trump's ass in the debate. Righties are now trying to undermine her win by making up wild conspiracy theories.

I don't have the passion about this presidential crap as you and others do here. On a scale of 1-10 I would be a 1.5 at most.

I'm not anti ams288, but from what I have seen while reading many of your posts, there's no way in hell you have/had an open mind. It would be like if EvenBob said has an open mind.
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September 29th, 2016 at 3:35:59 PM permalink
Quote:

...making up wild conspiracy theories.

It was a plot to make my nose itch. Obviously. *scratch*scratch*

But, the other side's diabolical scheme to give me the sniffles (without even a glimpse of any actual hookers & blow, dammit) has failed. http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/videos/a48981/howard-dean-trump-sniff-coke/

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September 29th, 2016 at 3:42:39 PM permalink
Hillary didn't cheat. Anyway, that was her body double. How else would she remain vertical for 90 minutes? See you have to put everything together to make sense of it. The real HIllary was at home deleting her email.
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September 29th, 2016 at 3:46:38 PM permalink
A negative ion coke spoon shoved briskly up the respective noses would cure that... and that.
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September 29th, 2016 at 3:58:58 PM permalink
I don't think this debate was rigged....but they just announced the moderators for the next two debates will be Slick Willie and AMS288. Seems fishy
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September 29th, 2016 at 4:02:15 PM permalink
Quote: Johnzimbo

Seems fishy

Everything seems and smells extra fishy when Hillary is around.
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September 29th, 2016 at 4:37:05 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Everything seems and smells extra fishy when Hillary is around.



Someone snuck a snuke up her snizz. (South Park YouTube link please, too lazy)
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September 29th, 2016 at 5:23:23 PM permalink
Quote: mcallister3200

Someone snuck a snuke up her snizz. (South Park YouTube link please, too lazy)

Couldn't find a good quality one.
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September 29th, 2016 at 5:34:18 PM permalink
Quote: Johnzimbo

I don't think this debate was rigged....but they just announced the moderators for the next two debates will be Slick Willie and AMS288. Seems fishy



Sean Hannity and I will co-moderate the last debate. Gotta keep it "fair and balanced."
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September 29th, 2016 at 5:59:48 PM permalink
Go back and watch it again. Between 5:00 and 5:30 you can see her have a seizure with her bobblehead, notably a minor one. You would probably have to have some experience around someone with epilepsy to notice it, admittedly. The thing I find remarkable is Trump caught it and even mouthed the word seizure to someone in the audience at 5:40. Trump operates at an extreme level of awareness.
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September 29th, 2016 at 6:30:57 PM permalink
Quote: MaxPen

Go back and watch it again. Between 5:00 and 5:30 you can see her have a seizure with her bobblehead, notably a minor one. You would probably have to have some experience around someone with epilepsy to notice it, admittedly. The thing I find remarkable is Trump caught it and even mouthed the word seizure to someone in the audience at 5:40. Trump operates at an extreme level of awareness.



I noticed the bobble in real time. Trumps mouth always kinda looks like he's saying the word seizure.
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