GWAE weight loss challenge
Oh boy oh boy here we go. I wasn't going to post this originally because the HB thread was so controversial but I have had quite a few PMs and a few texts saying they would bet against me. Boy that makes me feel great. :-( I have a few suggested game rules that I will outline below and we can go from there to see if there is any interest. Apparently this is going to be easy money, and I may not disagree. I feel that I am super motivated this time around but I have been motivated before. Remember this thread from nearly 3 years ago?
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/off-topic/16345-my-weight-loss-thread-not-a-new-years-resolution/
I started at 298 and got down to 274 and then hovered at 280 for 2 years. Currently I am exactly 298 again.
I have been trying to diet the last few months to no avail. I am probably the only person that I know that can gain weight in the summer.
My motivations are the following; I want to be healthy for my kids, not have to worry about weight limits for fun things such as zip lines; fit more comfortably in amusement rides and airplanes (I haven't not fit in one yet but some are real tight), and to just feel better about myself in general.
My worries; If losing weight were easy for me I wouldn't have been struggling with this problem for the last 15 years. I also have 1 more trip planned this year, Xmas, Thanksgiving, and my birthday to deal with before the bet resolves. It is going to take a lot of will power to overcome those.
My main problem is pop. I can drink a 2 liter of Pepsi in a day without even trying. I also have a serious addiction to ice cream. I have had ice cream 3 days this week for about 1800 calories.
So on to the bet. If there is any interest in a bet with me I am suggesting the following terms. We can negotiate them but I am feeling pretty good about what is outlined below. If there is not enough interest then I will just have this thread closed and will cancel all bets.
1. The bets will be resolved in April of 2017. I am going to be in Vegas during that time but I can not remember which week it is. This will be listed in the next week or so when I speak with my Uncle. I am going to be there for a convention It is either the week before Easter or the week after Easter.
2. I am thinking about 4 different bet options at 4 different finishing levels. You can bet 1, 2, 3 or all levels. I do not want everyone jumping on level 4 because I think that is pretty much a lock. There is no way in hell that I am going to lose 100 pounds but I know a lot of people are going to be looking for that huge number in a bet especially since there is precedent with HB. To combat that I am going to want equal action on 1,2 compared to 3,4.
Level 1: weigh 249 or below at 3 to 1
Level 2: weigh 235 or below at 5 to 1
Level 3: weigh 220 or below at 7 to 1
Level 4: weigh 199 or below at 10 to 1
3. I am not allowed any surgery or weight loss supplements. I have started taking a multi vitamin and also fish oil stuff but that will be the only pills I take. There will also be no B12 (I think that is what it is) or other injections that help with weight loss.
4. There will be no long term bets such as keep it off for another year. I am trying to change my entire life style with this bet. I am not looking to drop it and go back to unhealthy eating. I fully plan on keeping this lifestyle once I get acclimated to it. I am not going to just start eating 800 calories a day and basically starving myself to win this bet.
5. I will do unofficial weigh in posts a few times a week and will post a picture with me on scale 1 time a month. Due to schedule there may be some months that I am late in posting. The posting of pictures late will the impact the bets.
6. I will be participating in diet bet and step bet during this as well.
7. There will be an early out clause that can be executed by either parties on or before December 12th, 2016. If I feel that I am in trouble for this bet then I have the right to buy all bets for half price. Likewise with the bettors, if you feel you want to end the bet early then you can do so at half price. You can not cancel 1 bet and keep others open. Such as cancel level 1 and keep level 4 active, it will be an all or nothing. (I see where casinos struggle, you gotta really think with terms when dealing with APs ;-) )If I feel there is collusion I have the right to seek an outside ruling from the mods if they agree to do so. If they do not agree then I have the final call.
8. I have the right to refuse any bets for any reason. Examples would be past welchers, newbies, or just someone that I don't like.
9. I am willing to put 1k into action on this. Any bets accepted must be posted in this thread and will be confirmed here as well. I am not going to confirm any bets at all for the first 24 hours. Tomorrow morning I will make a post that shows the current confirmed bet. I will want a 2nd confirmation from the other side to commit to the bet before it is in action. Not sure if that made any sense.
10. Lastly, I have the right to add or change any terms by Aug 30th. I am sure that I forgot something or screwed something up so I am putting that in there.
Let the games begin.
Quote: TwoFeathersATLDid you mean 'the posting of pictures late will not impact the bets'?
Just wanted to prevent people from complaining if I don't post a monthly picture until the 5th.
Re-read your original 'proposition'. You didn't use the word 'not', though I thought perhaps you meant to.
Been awhile since I remember getting propositioned by a 275+ guy.
I choose to attempt to take that as a compliment;-)
I'm not giving you odds. Please explain why you feel you need to get odds? I actually think you can do it so I would just be betting to encourage you but I don't know why you should.get odds.Quote: GWAEETA: FYI, there is a block button right up there.
Oh boy oh boy here we go. I wasn't going to post this originally because the HB thread was so controversial but I have had quite a few PMs and a few texts saying they would bet against me. Boy that makes me feel great. :-( I have a few suggested game rules that I will outline below and we can go from there to see if there is any interest. Apparently this is going to be easy money, and I may not disagree. I feel that I am super motivated this time around but I have been motivated before. Remember this thread from nearly 3 years ago?
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/off-topic/16345-my-weight-loss-thread-not-a-new-years-resolution/
I started at 298 and got down to 274 and then hovered at 280 for 2 years. Currently I am exactly 298 again.
I have been trying to diet the last few months to no avail. I am probably the only person that I know that can gain weight in the summer.
My motivations are the following; I want to be healthy for my kids, not have to worry about weight limits for fun things such as zip lines; fit more comfortably in amusement rides and airplanes (I haven't not fit in one yet but some are real tight), and to just feel better about myself in general.
My worries; If losing weight were easy for me I wouldn't have been struggling with this problem for the last 15 years. I also have 1 more trip planned this year, Xmas, Thanksgiving, and my birthday to deal with before the bet resolves. It is going to take a lot of will power to overcome those.
My main problem is pop. I can drink a 2 liter of Pepsi in a day without even trying. I also have a serious addiction to ice cream. I have had ice cream 3 days this week for about 1800 calories.
So on to the bet. If there is any interest in a bet with me I am suggesting the following terms. We can negotiate them but I am feeling pretty good about what is outlined below. If there is not enough interest then I will just have this thread closed and will cancel all bets.
1. The bets will be resolved in April of 2017. I am going to be in Vegas during that time but I can not remember which week it is. This will be listed in the next week or so when I speak with my Uncle. I am going to be there for a convention It is either the week before Easter or the week after Easter.
2. I am thinking about 4 different bet options at 4 different finishing levels. You can bet 1, 2, 3 or all levels. I do not want everyone jumping on level 4 because I think that is pretty much a lock. There is no way in hell that I am going to lose 100 pounds but I know a lot of people are going to be looking for that huge number in a bet especially since there is precedent with HB. To combat that I am going to want equal action on 1,2 compared to 3,4.
Level 1: weigh 249 or below at 3 to 1
Level 2: weigh 235 or below at 5 to 1
Level 3: weigh 220 or below at 7 to 1
Level 4: weigh 199 or below at 10 to 1
3. I am not allowed any surgery or weight loss supplements. I have started taking a multi vitamin and also fish oil stuff but that will be the only pills I take. There will also be no B12 (I think that is what it is) or other injections that help with weight loss.
4. There will be no long term bets such as keep it off for another year. I am trying to change my entire life style with this bet. I am not looking to drop it and go back to unhealthy eating. I fully plan on keeping this lifestyle once I get acclimated to it. I am not going to just start eating 800 calories a day and basically starving myself to win this bet.
5. I will do unofficial weigh in posts a few times a week and will post a picture with me on scale 1 time a month. Due to schedule there may be some months that I am late in posting. The posting of pictures late will the impact the bets.
6. I will be participating in diet bet and step bet during this as well.
7. There will be an early out clause that can be executed by either parties on or before December 12th, 2016. If I feel that I am in trouble for this bet then I have the right to buy all bets for half price. Likewise with the bettors, if you feel you want to end the bet early then you can do so at half price. You can not cancel 1 bet and keep others open. Such as cancel level 1 and keep level 4 active, it will be an all or nothing. (I see where casinos struggle, you gotta really think with terms when dealing with APs ;-) )If I feel there is collusion I have the right to seek an outside ruling from the mods if they agree to do so. If they do not agree then I have the final call.
8. I have the right to refuse any bets for any reason. Examples would be past welchers, newbies, or just someone that I don't like.
9. I am willing to put 1k into action on this. Any bets accepted must be posted in this thread and will be confirmed here as well. I am not going to confirm any bets at all for the first 24 hours. Tomorrow morning I will make a post that shows the current confirmed bet. I will want a 2nd confirmation from the other side to commit to the bet before it is in action. Not sure if that made any sense.
10. Lastly, I have the right to add or change any terms by Aug 30th. I am sure that I forgot something or screwed something up so I am putting that in there.
Let the games begin.
Quote: AxelWolfI'm not giving you odds. Please explain why you feel you need to get odds? I actually think you can do it so I would just be betting to encourage you but I don't know why you should.get odds.
I disagree. If it were that easy then I would have already did it. Obviously having money on it is going to motivate me. That is the entire point. If it wasn't going to motivate me then I wouldn't do it.
The reason odds are needed is because it is much easier to fail then to succeed. I believe the is the entire premise behind creating odds for any kind of bet. I think even odds on something like 40 or 30 pounds would be in the realm of possibilities.
Eta: I had a bunch of people willing to bet prior to this thread. Maybe I mis understood and didn't realize that everyone wanted even money. I believe in a different thread you said you would bet and it would be a lock. Not exact words, if you felt that it was a lock then I think that demonstrates odds are required. Just my 2 cents.
Quote: beachbumbabsHow tall are you?
I am 5 11ish.
Quote: AyecarumbaThe "Half Price Bailout" clause should be balanced by better odds on the front end. There should be more pain in quitting to motivate you to keep going when the road gets rough.
That is why I made a dead line. Maybe skew the time frame. Something like I can bail by November 10th and the no side can bail by December 24th. Something to thay effect.
GWAE is a girl?Quote: onenickelmiracleYou go girl.
Quote: chickenmanGWAE is a girl?
No.
I guess I should give particulars.
I am a 36 year old 5'11" white male. I like to call myself big boned.
Quote: chickenmanGWAE is a girl?
Ha no was just being supportive and humorous. I can attest he weighs about what he says since I saw him about two months ago. I noticed at the time he had gained a bit of weight since we met in 2013.
The extra sock in his pants is old news.
'Big boned' he claims ;-)
Quote: GWAENo.
I guess I should give particulars.
I am a 36 year old 5'11" white male. I like to call myself big boned.
I won't bet 3 to 1 odds. If you lose 75 pounds with no time limit I'll give you $200 toward some new clothing you will need.Quote: GWAEI disagree. If it were that easy then I would have already did it. Obviously having money on it is going to motivate me. That is the entire point. If it wasn't going to motivate me then I wouldn't do it.
The reason odds are needed is because it is much easier to fail then to succeed. I believe the is the entire premise behind creating odds for any kind of bet. I think even odds on something like 40 or 30 pounds would be in the realm of possibilities.
Eta: I had a bunch of people willing to bet prior to this thread. Maybe I mis understood and didn't realize that everyone wanted even money. I believe in a different thread you said you would bet and it would be a lock. Not exact words, if you felt that it was a lock then I think that demonstrates odds are required. Just my 2 cents.
Quote: onenickelmiracleHa no was just being supportive and humorous. I can attest he weighs about what he says since I saw him about two months ago. I noticed at the time he had gained a bit of weight since we met in 2013.
That is probably true. I was on my diet when we met in 13. Was probably about the 270. I noticed on this last weight gain that my face is fatter. Maybe getting older, weight gain shows up differently.
Haha I should take a picture of my tonights dinner. Hint, I just had to pick it up because I am too cheap to tip the driver.
He's teasing us.Quote: GWAE<snip>
Haha I should take a picture of my tonights dinner. Hint,.
I thought AP was 'supposed' to be somewhat obscured, camouflaged, slight of hand.
Quote: TwoFeathersATLHe's teasing us.
I thought AP was 'supposed' to be somewhat obscured, camouflaged, slight of hand.
Diet isn't starating until next Monday so why not endulge this week
That's not the attitude of success.Quote: GWAEDiet isn't starating until next Monday so why not endulge this week
Quote: AxelWolfThat's not the attitude of success.
We drove 7 hours today so we were just lazy and didn't feel like cooking. I am going to stop at grocery store tomorrow to buy healthy dinners for the rest of the week. I also have 2 2 liters of pepsi thst we need to finish as well. After those are gone then I am done with pop.
Do you have to be done with soda or can you have it like once every 2 weeks or on special occasions? I don't know what I woud do without my daily soda I drink it often but I don't drink a lot at once.Quote: GWAEWe drove 7 hours today so we were just lazy and didn't feel like cooking. I am going to stop at grocery store tomorrow to buy healthy dinners for the rest of the week. I also have 2 2 liters of pepsi thst we need to finish as well. After those are gone then I am done with pop.
They say diet soda make you gain weight however im not sure how skewed that information is or if it's just someone making the data fit whatever agenda they have.Quote: vegasDrink diet pepsi. ( I know you hate the taste)
Perhaps something like pepsi one or whatever would taste better, I can't stand diet anything.
I love it when I see someone order a triple double bacon cheeseburger, large fries and then a DIET soda. That's kinda funny to me. Perhaps it's a diabetes thing in some cases.
Quote: AxelWolfThey say diet soda make you gain weight however im not sure how skewed that information is or if it's just someone making the data fit whatever agenda they have.
Perhaps something like pepsi one or whatever would taste better, I can't stand diet anything.
I love it when I see someone order a triple double bacon cheeseburger, large fries and then a DIET soda. That's kinda funny to me. Perhaps it's a diabetes thing in some cases.
Forgot about extra salt on the fries, too.
Ahh yes while at McDonald's some really big guy was in front of me ordering. Once I got my food I started eating my french fries and had to spit them out because they were so damn salty it was absolutely uneadable. Walking back to return them I noticed the big guy feverishly salting his FF.Quote: RSForgot about extra salt on the fries, too.
I'm 6' 3" and recently got strep throat. Hadn't been sick in a very long time. Decided soda might be hurting my immune system. Stopped drinking soda Thursday before last. Only water for me now. Already went from 260 to 244 in just 11 days. However, I discovered the paleo way of eating about a week ago and have now adopted the principles. I'll see where it goes.
Quote: BTLWIDrink Pepsi Max, much better than diet Pepsi. I wouldn't reserve Pepsi calories as a special treat, save that for ice cream or cheesecake.
Yes ice cream on cheescake sounds great
-There are zero calories in salt. Pour all you want on your fries, throw away the fries and lick the remaining salt from the plate. You are made mostly of salt water. If the balance gets out of whack, add water.
-Diet Pepsi? Diet any soda? Just thinking about it should cause you to lose weight. Nasty stuff.
Saw a commercial tonight on TV, just out the corner of my eye, my 13 year old son was watching.
Might have been a Wendy's commercial.
Advertising bacon. 3 babes in skimpy clothes, apparently 3 styles of bacon burgers or sumptin'.
I verbally placed my order,
I'll take two orders of that bacon, hold the burgers.
I think my son pee'd himself.
Sex is non-fattening, usually.
Run around your local park chasing Pokemon Go creatures in the summer heat. I think it's the latest fitness craze. I cannot believe the number of adults I see doing that.
Good luck!
I like putting cream cheese on my cheesecake, believe it or not, Jack-in-the-box has really good cheesecake. I dislike crumbly or yellow tinted(NY?) cheesecake.Quote: GWAEYes ice cream on cheesecake sounds great
McDonald's older style deep fried apple pies are so good. They brought them back to California but not NV )-;
Pokemon Go made me think of Wii that's absolutely something you can enjoy with the family while exercising, your kids should love playing Wii with their daddy. For anyone that thinks you can't break a sweat playing Wii try the boxing. MY GF loves Wii Fit.Quote: TwoFeathersATLCouple things:
-There are zero calories in salt. Pour all you want on your fries, throw away the fries and lick the remaining salt from the plate. You are made mostly of salt water. If the balance gets out of whack, add water.
-Diet Pepsi? Diet any soda? Just thinking about it should cause you to lose weight. Nasty stuff.
Saw a commercial tonight on TV, just out the corner of my eye, my 13 year old son was watching.
Might have been a Wendy's commercial.
Advertising bacon. 3 babes in skimpy clothes, apparently 3 styles of bacon burgers or sumptin'.
I verbally placed my order,
I'll take two orders of that bacon, hold the burgers.
I think my son pee'd himself.
Sex is non-fattening, usually.
Run around your local park chasing Pokemon Go creatures in the summer heat. I think it's the latest fitness craze. I cannot believe the number of adults I see doing that.
Good luck!
Way back when when I was 17 my boss at a restaurant I worked at was seriously overweight, he took up serious mountain biking and lost everything quickly and even got really fit. He got himself a really hot waitress GF(and she was really sweet)
The key is myfitnesspal. Log everything! Be conservative. It will work.
Quote: TwoFeathersATL.
Run around your local park chasing Pokemon Go creatures in the summer heat. I think it's the latest fitness craze. I cannot believe the number of adults I see doing that.
Good luck!
I'm down 14 lbs from chasing Pokémon around my local park.
Quote: onenickelmiracleA real challenge for someone would be to gain a significant amount of weight heavier than they have ever been. If you've been say max 250 in all your life, it would be hard going to 300 in a rushed time period. Does anyone here think they can gain 50 pounds in a year and are at their maximum lifetime weight?
I think I might be able to. I'd need some odds though. ;-)
Quote: RSI think I might be able to. I'd need some odds though. ;-)
Noooooooooo! Don't do it!
No question you could put it on. It won't stay off once you do, even if you lose it back. Horrible thing to teach your body.
Quote: onenickelmiracleA real challenge for someone would be to gain a significant amount of weight heavier than they have ever been. If you've been say max 250 in all your life, it would be hard going to 300 in a rushed time period. Does anyone here think they can gain 50 pounds in a year and are at their maximum lifetime weight?
I have been thinking about this all month. I feel way too light for the upcoming season, and I did semi-ponder the exact challenge you mentioned. But it didn't take long to realize what I wanted/needed would be of no interest as 20-30lbs is not all that extreme =p
Thoughts for GWAE...
Ain't no doctor, you should check with one, blah, blah, blah, but fasting is something I hear about a lot lately. Pretty fad-ish, probably be the next paleo or whatever. But I engaged in it (cuz I was poor) and hot damn, it sure did work.
End of high school and dead in the middle of my training regimens, I was 6', 188lbs (piss on BMI charts, I wasn't a lick "overweight"). Once age and injury relegated me to a semi-normal adult, I plateaued at ~195. That lasted until my fat and happy casino days, where sitting all day and eating pizzeria food minimum 5x's a week found me at 214. I started noticing "jiggles". Ain't never felt that before. I certainly didn't like it, but 20 more lbs on the frame resulted in a far easier time wrecking folks on the ice, so I wasn't exactly in a hurry to shed it.
Anyways... being poor resulted in losing stuff, and food was certainly on the list. A typical casino days' day of food consisted of probably 16oz of choco milk to start the day, 4-6 cans of Dew during work (hard to keep awake in Surv =p), some sort of junk grub at work (wings, pizza, sub, burger), and then a totally non-diet home cooked (chicken, roast beast, whatever). I'd probably cap it off with a few chips late in the eve, with certainly at least another 16oz of ch. milk (2%), and Lifesavers being chewed pretty much around the clock. At least 30 a day. In other words, lots and lots of sugar, almost nothing fresh.
My year of poverty changed all that. Two meals a day dropped to one with ch milk nixing the pangs, and as I went further and further underwater, meals started dropping entirely. I probably averaged eating 4 times a week, with the worst month and a half seeing me eat only twice a week. These meals were not "diet meals", I didn't track cals or anything. But they were ALL home cooked, prepared fresh. No TV dinners or canned whatever. GOOD meals. Broccoli cheddar soup with fresh broc and real cheese and real milk, or roast beast with taters and carrots and onion. Lots of rice and lots of salads because it's retarded cheap, but no lo-cal, lo-fat, fake sweetener BS. REAL food. And "non-meal" days featured little more than water and ch milk; maybe I'd eat a green pepper or other random green if I could find it. I'd get hungry, sure. But much like detox, it only hurts for a minute. Before I knew it the pang had passed and I was already deep into the next day.
Exercise didn't change much. Humpin' mail is pretty physical, but I was already doing physical side jobs previous to that. About the only exercise changes I made was I started reffing hockey to combat my poverty. I suppose skating an extra two full games a week without line changes might seem like a lot of physical exertion, but relative to my normal output, it wasn't a huge addition. I'm just mentioning this to give a better idea of what all I did, and perhaps also to show there was little to no effort expended to shed what I shed (shad? shid? lol)
Physically, there was no bad stuff. Granted, any discomfort from fasting could've been masked by the severe pain I was in (extra physical effort plus detoxing off Vicodin (no insurance) left me in tears more often than not), but I didn't get headaches, never felt lethargic (or any more than usual =p), never got dizzy, no heart stuff, nothing. In fact, I started to feel like a yute again. Granted, that could've just been hate fuel (I do my best work when on the edge of rage, and I had plenty to be angry about), but I wouldn't categorize that period as hard or tough or significant in any way. Food was a complete afterthought. It became what it probably should always be - a necessary intake. Not a reward or an indulgence, simply a fueling.
I'm completely back on my feet now financially, but I still only eat roughly 4 times a week. 4-6 cans of Dew a day? Hell no! Diet, schmiet, my body rejects it. I still enjoy it, but half a can in the middle of my route is all it wants; any more and I feel like s#$%. I still eat whatever I want; a big, fatty roast or a pizza sub stuffed with chicken fingers, I just don't eat it every day. Don't want it, couldn't if I tried. Through no desire and by way of no work, my health just changed. By necessity, sure, but a year of that has permanently rerouted where I am. In other words, a lifestyle change happened, and that's (IMO) what you should be shooting for.
Look up intermittent fasting. Since there's no brutal exercise regimen and you can still eat awesome food, it might be a desirable option.
Fat and happy 214, Aug '15
Furious 187, Jul '16
Quote: GWAE
Level 1: weigh 249 or below at 3 to 1
Level 2: weigh 235 or below at 5 to 1
Level 3: weigh 220 or below at 7 to 1
Level 4: weigh 199 or below at 10 to 1
I'll put $10 on each level. I think these are lousy bets for me but I'm doing it for the entertainment value and to encourage you to reach your goal.
This was probably said before, but I would suggest switching to diet soda and sugar-free ice cream. As I've said in the HB thread, the emphasis should be on exercising more, like three hours a day, than food. Do not use the word "diet." You need to find a healthy lifestyle and stick with it the rest of your life.
Quote: Wizard
This was probably said before, but I would suggest switching to diet soda and sugar-free ice cream. As I've said in the HB thread, the emphasis should be on exercising more, like three hours a day, than food. Do not use the word "diet." You need to find a healthy lifestyle and stick with it the rest of your life.
Not to object because i know very little, but I do know I heard that artificial sweeteners cause the same biological reactions that result in weight gain. Could've been a totally biased hack piece, but I do remember watching some sort of doc on it.
But I'll +10 the exercise idea, and remind you that it's not all mundane, tedious reps at a boring, expensive gym.
Wiz borders what I consider a fitness junky, but I don't for a minute think all he does is because of that. Climbing peaks and unicycling a thousand miles contains a good deal of passion, too. I'm the same way with my fishing or my hockey. Ain't no way I'm humping 60lbs of gear up and down ravines in a lake effect snow storm to "get fit". And the few times I've focused on how I felt after a shift on the ice was horrifying lol. But you get so focused on the want and desire of the passion, that the effort just happens in the background. Ask terapined how "bad" he felt putting in 10k to hatch his pokemon. He might be sore the next day, but I bet he didn't noticed even 1% of the steps he took to do it.
You don't have to go all Glory Days and start playing tackle football again, or destroy yourself in some crossfit experiment. Find a passion. Even a walk to feed the ducks is an hour not sitting, not eating, not storing energy. And the amount of additional benefits you find along the way, I'd bet, will shock you to the core.
Are you going to get rounded down if you win Wizard?Quote: WizardI'll put $10 on each level.
If you post a thread with your goals and your history, I would be interested. Would you be willing to gain 50 pounds in a year? Then lose 100 from your weight total from one year away two years from today essentially? It's the Oprah diet.Quote: RSI think I might be able to. I'd need some odds though. ;-)
Quote: FaceNot to object because i know very little, but I do know I heard that artificial sweeteners cause the same biological reactions that result in weight gain. Could've been a totally biased hack piece, but I do remember watching some sort of doc on it.
I know every little either. However, calories are calories. Maybe you're saying that diet soda makes people hungry. I can't confirm or deny. For me personally it seems to increase my metabolism, which should be a good thing. Hopefully somebody who knows a thing or two about the topic will weigh in.
Quote:But I'll +10 the exercise idea, and remind you that it's not all mundane, tedious reps at a boring, expensive gym.
Wiz borders what I consider a fitness junky, but I don't for a minute think all he does is because of that.
Thanks for agreeing with me on that point. I totally agree you need to find a form of exercise you enjoy. Thanks also for the compliment, which I don't think was deserved. I should write sometime about why I do it, but now that I think about it, I'm not entirely sure. I think I'm just very goal driven and can't think of any other good ones.
Quote:Ask terapined how "bad" he felt putting in 10k to hatch his pokemon. He might be sore the next day, but I bet he didn't noticed even 1% of the steps he took to do it.
Hey T -- how did it feel?
Quote:You don't have to go all Glory Days and start playing tackle football again, or destroy yourself in some crossfit experiment. Find a passion. Even a walk to feed the ducks is an hour not sitting, not eating, not storing energy. And the amount of additional benefits you find along the way, I'd bet, will shock you to the core.
I agree 100%!
Quote: onenickelmiracleIf you post a thread with your goals and your history, I would be interested. Would you be willing to gain 50 pounds in a year? Then lose 100 from your weight total from one year away two years from today essentially? It's the Oprah diet.
If I put on that much weight (50 lbs), it'd have to be muscle (I don't like the idea of getting fat)...or else I'd have to grow taller or something. But even if I did gain 50 lbs of fat, no way could I lose 100 lbs at that point, as there's almost no way in hell I could lose 50 pounds from what I weigh right now.
Quote: onenickelmiracleIf you post a thread with your goals and your history, I would be interested. Would you be willing to gain 50 pounds in a year? Then lose 100 from your weight total from one year away two years from today essentially? It's the Oprah diet.
If I put on that much weight (50 lbs), it'd have to be muscle (I don't like the idea of getting fat)...or else I'd have to grow taller or something. But even if I did gain 50 lbs of fat, no way could I lose 100 lbs at that point, as there's almost no way in hell I could lose 50 pounds from what I weigh right now.
I was on a rather expensive and foul tasting 300 calories a meal, twice a day ... with some fancy name but I always dubbed it Liquid Chalk because of its taste.
I finally got a ride to the grocery store that has a scale and discovered that I gained five pounds after all that dieting, so I'm going to look for some other alternative such as face Mecca and eat a grape.
You probably don't need any advice, but I'll give some anyway. You might want to check out the South Beach Diet. It basically is a low-carb diet, but the first two weeks is almost no carbs. It is designed to break the body's craving for sweets/starches. I can attest that it does reduce them, but doesn't get rid of them altogether. Plus, I've had two of my doctors say that of all the diets out there, South Beach will leave you the healthiest (cholesterol, blood sugar, metabolism, etc.) when you reach your weight goal.
I would also agree with Face about viewing eating as "a means of fueling the body" as well as the exercise thing. However, I have found that in the past, diet > exercise as far as losing weight. I have dieted without exercising before and lost weight. I have exercised significantly without dieting before, and have mostly just maintained.
As to the sodas (or I guess I should say "pop"), you can try diet. I guarantee you won't like the taste. However, if you drink it exclusively, you will develop a taste for it (not saying whether this a good or bad thing, just something I have experienced to be true). And, as a friend once told me (or did I see it here?), "You never see skinny people drinking diet soda." Yeah, not 100% true, but I can see the point.
As an alternative to diet (or non-diet) sodas, you could go the club soda route. I have a SodaStream at home, and sometimes just drink the carbonated water in lieu of (diet) soda. However, you will need to develop a taste for club soda. It will taste bitter if you are used to regular sodas. The thing is, though, you can put flavorings in it -- either diet or regular. So, you can control the amount and use less and less until club soda is palatable (YMMV).
Best of luck in your weight loss pursuit!
Quote: WizardI'll put $10 on each level. I think these are lousy bets for me but I'm doing it for the entertainment value and to encourage you to reach your goal.
This was probably said before, but I would suggest switching to diet soda and sugar-free ice cream. As I've said in the HB thread, the emphasis should be on exercising more, like three hours a day, than food. Do not use the word "diet." You need to find a healthy lifestyle and stick with it the rest of your life.
Somehow I completely missed this post.
Since I dropped the ball I am willing to accept your bet but it is really up to you. I am going to call no action on any other bets. There was originally some interest but no one wants to give odds at all so I am going to close the action. If you want to take the easy money then I am willing to but without the big motivation I was hoping for there is a 99% chance that I will fail and will probably take the out in a few months.
