100xOdds
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April 4th, 2016 at 8:41:35 PM permalink
I have $1k promo chips thats only good on even money bets.
I get real chips for a win but they take my bet and dont give me anything for that.
So basically only 50% value. 😞
No, i cant convert it to free slot play. I tried.

Anyway, what game to play ($15 min)?

Im thinking craps (up to 100x odds).
Promo chips for the flat bet so there's 0% house edge.

Start with $15 flat/150 odds playing dont and press odds by $30 with each win. If the point is made, start over again.

i plan to bring $4k cash. (too much/little?)
Other suggestions? Baccarat (banker)??

Note: dont want to play bj because they give even $ on blackjack if you're using promo chips


edit:
objective- Best game in terms of EV
Last edited by: 100xOdds on Apr 5, 2016
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MB
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April 5th, 2016 at 3:47:24 AM permalink
What's your objective? Were you going to play craps? 66 line bets will take a couple of hours to resolve. If you want to minimize your playing time, you can bet $500 on each of player/banker or pass/don't pass. For baccarat, you'll get $475 or $500. For craps, I'd just take the gamble that the 12 doesn't show.

One large line bet vs 66 small line bets doesn't change the vig. Most importantly, not everyone is disciplined to stand there for 2-3 hours at a craps table and make absolutely no other bets.
RS
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April 5th, 2016 at 4:38:50 AM permalink
Why play with odds?

Is your goal to play and have fun? Or simply convert the chips to money with the best value / rate? Most likely, TCP will be the best game to play.
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April 5th, 2016 at 5:23:18 AM permalink
100x do you still play craps a lot? If so then you should just use them on the pass line. Since you were going to be playing anyways then they are essentially worth full value.
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April 5th, 2016 at 5:32:27 AM permalink
Confused.... Even on pass line they don't have full value I don't think ..... But they are one time use not play till you lose chips - but I could have missed something
I'd play bacc and hope for s monkey
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April 5th, 2016 at 7:11:10 AM permalink
I'd place the whole wad at once. This is my best strat for the max gain on what you have.

5 hundred free chips on the pass line.
AND
5 hundred free chips on the don't pass line.

Then Just let this dual bet resolve itself.

IF by chance you happen to get the boxcars on the come-out:

5 hundred free chips on the pass line.
AND
put $500 cash on the don't pass line.

Then let this dual bet resolve itself.
Wizardofnothing
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April 5th, 2016 at 7:24:07 AM permalink
That would be a terrible option ...: on the second bet just awful
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100xOdds
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April 5th, 2016 at 7:31:52 AM permalink
Quote: MB

What's your objective? Were you going to play craps? 66 line bets will take a couple of hours to resolve. If you want to minimize your playing time, you can bet $500 on each of player/banker or pass/don't pass. For baccarat, you'll get $475 or $500. For craps, I'd just take the gamble that the 12 doesn't show.

One large line bet vs 66 small line bets doesn't change the vig. Most importantly, not everyone is disciplined to stand there for 2-3 hours at a craps table and make absolutely no other bets.


objective- best game in terms of EV. (updated my OP)

cant do Player in Bac. Only Banker.

I like playing craps (thus my username).
if the best EV game is craps, then yes I have no problem standing there for 2-3 hrs.
In Vegas, I used to do 6hr+ stints at a time altho that was playing Pass.
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100xOdds
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April 5th, 2016 at 7:32:50 AM permalink
Quote: RS

Why play with odds?

Is your goal to play and have fun? Or simply convert the chips to money with the best value / rate? Most likely, TCP will be the best game to play.


yes, my goal is to play and have fun.

why would three card poker be the best value/rate?
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April 5th, 2016 at 7:34:56 AM permalink
Quote: GWAE

100x do you still play craps a lot? If so then you should just use them on the pass line. Since you were going to be playing anyways then they are essentially worth full value.


stopped playing 2yrs ago when my local casino increased the coin-in to get a point on e-Craps.
but I still like the game.

and with their promo chips as the flat bet, I'm playing at a 0% house edge?


Quote: Wizardofnothing

Confused.... Even on pass line they don't have full value I don't think ..... But they are one time use not play till you lose chips - but I could have missed something
I'd play bacc and hope for s monkey


yes, one time use.
once the bet resolves, I get paid only for the win. they take the promo chips but I get paid nothing for the flat bet.
Craps is paradise (Pair of dice). Lets hear it for the SpeedCount Mathletes :)

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