Tipping Inside Casinos (always an interesting subject).

I like Obama. I liked Clinton, Bush 1, Reagan, and Nixon; I didn't like Ford (but I think he got a raw deal), Carter, and Bush 2. I voted for Bush 2 the first go round, then held my nose and voted against him on the second go round. I didn't get to vote before Nixon's 2nd term, but in '72 I voted for Nixon. Prior to that, I think Eisenhower is unrecognized as one of our greatest presidents, Kennedy could have been great or not, and Johnson could have been great but wasn't. That covers all the presidents in my lifetime. Fair enough?

I'm not intimidated at all. I like being in control, and part of that control is deciding when to tip and how much. If I decided to never tip, then I would be ceding my control over a fluid world to an inflexible principle, which never works. I have no problem looking a guy in the eye and saying "no"; I did it 2 weeks ago at the Philadelphia airport, when the curbside check-in porter told me there was a mandatory $2 fee for checking bags curbside (no such fee). I was planning to give him $5 for 2 bags; instead, I said I was planning on giving him $5, laughed and took my bags inside instead.

I repeat: you might or might not be calm as can be, but you APPEAR to be bitter, angry, and unbalanced. If you like being seen as such, by all means, continue on as you have been.

Quote: DJTeddyBear

While it's a sad state that tipping has evolved into a 'customary' and 'expected' thing, I think we should be reminded what tips are.

First of all, it's an acronym: To Insure Propper Service.

No true. Read the following to discuss the origin of the word "tip".

Quote: Michael Quinion

Could I first dispose of the odd belief that it is an acronym for the phrase To Improve Performance? Modern folk etymology has a curious idea that the source of almost any short word lies in an acronym (perhaps because we’re surrounded by them), but the truth is that few such inventions are found before the 1930s.

Actually, this is a most interesting word. There are three distinct senses of tip in English: the one for an extremity probably comes from Old Norse; the one with the sense of overturn possibly also comes from a Scandinavian language, though nobody is sure. The one you’re asking about may derive from the German tippen, or possibly also be connected with the idea of an extremity, though authorities in language history are hedging their bets through lack of evidence.

It turns up first in the thirteenth century, meaning to touch lightly (as in the game tip and run). By the early 1600s, it had become thieves’ cant with the sense of handing something over, or passing something surreptitiously to another person. This may derive from the idea of lightly touching somebody’s arm in order to communicate. (This is supported by other appearances of the word in phrases like tip the wink and tip off and the noun tip for a piece of inside information, say on a horse race.)

One specific thing that was passed was a small sum of money. By the beginning of the eighteenth century it had taken on its modern meaning of giving a gratuity for a small service rendered; the first recorded use is in George Farquhar’s play The Beaux Stratagem of 1706 (“Then I, Sir, tips me the Verger with half a Crown”). By the 1750s, it could also mean the gratuity itself.

Quote: joenunz

Really man, is this thread about Obama? Or about tipping?

And to think I thought I had self-confidence and self-respect...until the wise Jerry told me I have none since I leave a few bucks for housekeeping!

Keep supplying the material Jerry...like I said, fish in a barrel!

Denial.....NOT such a beautiful thing.

Quote: Mosca

I like Obama. I liked Clinton, Bush 1, Reagan, and Nixon; I didn't like Ford (but I think he got a raw deal), Carter, and Bush 2. I didn't get to vote before Nixon's 2nd term, but in '72 I voted for Nixon. Prior to that, I think Eisenhower is unrecognized as one of our greatest presidents, Kennedy could have been great or not, and Johnson could have been great but wasn't. That covers all the presidents in my lifetime. Fair enough?

I'm not intimidated at all. I like being in control, and part of that control is deciding when to tip and how much. If I decided to never tip, then I would be ceding my control over a fluid world to an inflexible principle, which never works. I have no problem looking a guy in the eye and saying "no"; I did it 2 weeks ago at the Philadelphia airport, when the curbside check-in porter told me there was a mandatory $2 fee for checking bags curbside (no such fee). I was planning to give him $5 for 2 bags; instead, I said I was planning on giving him $5, laughed and took my bags inside instead.

I repeat: you might or might not be calm as can be, but you APPEAR to be bitter, angry, and unbalanced. If you like being seen as such, by all means, continue on as you have been.

Your mind is stuck in one gear: Jerry never tips anyone. And of course, that gear does not exist.

Troll.

Back on topic. I wonder if Obama tips?

Quote: Mosca

Troll.

Agreed.

So lets all stop feeding the troll.

Quote: boymimbo

Back on topic. I wonder if Obama tips?

I think the tipping issue has run its course. Too bad the misguided fascination with Obama hasn't....yet.
Presidents are presidents, usually. But in the case of the last two guys (with respect to slick Willy and his adulterous, cheating, lying ways) "usually" hardly fits.

I'm an Independent who voted for the guy twice, and I'm so very glad I did. Can you just imagine what a lying coward Kerry or the now exposed Gore (short for "creator of the Internet") would have been like? But in this last election I voted for Obama because I did not like the economic or illegal immigration direction GWB was taking. No way was I voting for a weakling like McCain. I did, however, like Sarah Palin's guts (& ass). Now, like the majority of Americans, I see how I was duped by this self-centered, minority-sympathetic racist who finds it impossible to handle criticism with style and grace like GWB always did.

As for the 2 wars, Bush did a great job in Iraq and now it's time for Obama to shut it down. Today. Let those animals do what they do best to each other and always have. Afghanistan should be dealt with more severely. We should immediately leave, stop spending there, and announce the incorporation of a new law entitled The Jerry Logan Manifesto. It's main points, some of which relate to terrorism, are:

1. A stern warning. Any further Taliban-planned attacks on the USA means the entire country would be flattened. Totally. They were warned, they couldn't listen, it's all their fault. Let the Muslim world comprehend that nothing bad happens to them without their extremists' participation. Collateral damage doesn't matter. The disease has to be met head-on and stopped somewhere, somehow, sometime. If Russia or China protest and want to tangle, bring them on. Being afraid never accomplishes anything.

2. The same goes for any other country that SPONSORS an attack upon the US. Countries that don't listen will cease to exist. Those idiots have been nothing but a thorn in the side of decent human beings anyway.

3. Leave Isreal alone, and let them do what they want with Iran, Lebanon, or any other group that thinks it's OK to lob missile after missile at their civilians and then cry like big babies once Israel retaliates.

4. Leave Korea to Korea. Their beautiful women start to look like old hags at 35 anyway.

5. Annex Japan as the 52nd state, right after we annex yo-ho-ho Puerto Rico. Why not?

I've tried to keep quiet, but I just can't hold it in any longer. I have to tell everyone that Jerry Logan's vituperations rub me the wrong way. First things first: Jerry wants to control every aspect of our lives. He wants us to rise, fall asleep, work, and live at the beat of a drum. Then, once we're molded into a uniform mass, we'll be incapable of seeing that many people respond to Jerry's antihumanist stances in the same way that they respond to television dramas. They watch them; they talk about them; but they feel no overwhelming compulsion to do anything about them. That's why I insist we make a genuine contribution to human society. Contrary to what he would have you believe, I once read an article about how he wants nothing less than to engage in the trafficking of human beings. It was the powerful and long-lingering momentum of the impressions received on that occasion, more than any other circumstance, that gave definite form and resolution to my purpose of offering true constructive criticism—listening to the whole issue, recognizing the problems, recognizing what is being done right, and getting involved to help remedy the problem.

Jerry likes tricking academics into abandoning the principles of scientific inquiry. That's the most damnable thing about him. It's also why we must understand that I regard Jerry the way I would the sort of stinking filth I might have to clean off my boots after a careless walk in a dog kennel. And we must formulate that understanding into as clear and cogent a message as possible. It saddens me that his cocky, wayward programs of Gleichschaltung inaugurate an era of longiloquent anti-intellectualism. Jerry then blames us for that. Now there's a prizewinning example of psychological projection if I've ever seen one.

Jerry says that he can convince criminals to fill out an application form before committing a crime. What he means by this, of course, is that he wants free reign to force onto us the degradation and ignominy that he is known to revel in. While I can't speak for anyone else, I assert that he commonly appoints ineffective people to important positions. He then ensures that these people stay in those positions because that makes it easy for him to operate on a criminal—as opposed to a civil disobedience—basis. Some people say that that isn't sufficient evidence to prove that Jerry is secretly scheming to interfere with the most important principles of democracy. And I must agree; one needs much more evidence than that. But the evidence is there, for anyone who isn't afraid to look at it. Just look at the way that while he insists that the worst types of shiftless, mutinous pillocks I've ever seen make the best scoutmasters and schoolteachers, reality dictates otherwise. Actually, if you want a real dose of reality, look at how that is no excuse for anything. An obvious parallel from a slightly different context is that he has, on a number of occasions, expressed a desire to sucker us into buying a lot of junk we don't need. On all of these occasions I submitted to the advice of my friends, who assured me that he has delivered exactly the opposite of what he had previously promised us. Most notably, Jerry's vows of liberation turned out to be masks for oppression and domination. And, almost as troubling, his vows of equality did little more than convince people that if this post did nothing else but serve as a beacon of truth, it would be worthy of reading by all right-thinking people. However, this post's role is much greater than just to advocate social change through dialogue, passive resistance, and nonviolence. The take-away message of this post is that Jerry Logan is a liar—a conscious, deliberate, bald-faced, shameless liar. Think about it. I don't want to have to write another post a few years from now, in the wake of a society torn apart by Jerry's litigious, demented antics, reminding you that you were warned.

Quote: JerryLogan

I'm an Independent who voted for the guy twice, and I'm so very glad I did.

Quote: JerryLogan

I'm a republican forum member.

I guess that explains your difficulty distinguishing facts from opinions...