The HOAX that is the 0% edge in rock paper scissors.

If we bet a $1 on rock paper scissors, I've told that game has a 0% house edge. But since I will always win or lose, I contend that the 0% house edge is in fact a fallacy, a hoax, a statistical lie! I and millions of other poor children have been deceived into thinking we are playing a fair game, when in fact the outcome is guaranteed to not be fair! A pox on all the writers who claim otherwise.

You should be playing rock-paper-scissors-lizzard-spock ;)

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You should be playing rock-paper-scissors-lizzard-spock ;)

And if that's not good enough try this 25 differant options.

Actually, the casinos do have two advantages in their favor.

1) As you notice, at all rock-paper-scissors tables, the casinos require a minimum of 2 customers, and some even require a minimum of 3 customers to improve their odds.

2) The casino always chooses their rock-paper-scissors after seeing what the players at the table have chosen. Thus, they are always able to choose the option that will either maximize their take and/or minimize their payout.

I haven't had time to do the full math on this very unique, and yet obviously casino-biased game, but the house advantage has to be ridiculously high.

I also think that the "all rocks" bonus bet carries a high house edge. After all, even assuming that all the players at the table choose rock, the casino would then obviously NOT choose rock in order to maximize their take, and thus all rocks would almost never come up.

Wait a sec....


Are you suggesting that there's an actual "Rock Paper Scissors" casino game?

Like a real casino game, not just the game that was played at that wierd casino in the LV Vacation movie?

Yes there is. https://wizardofodds.com/rockpaperscissors Ok its only in an online casino.

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Wait a sec....


Are you suggesting that there's an actual "Rock Paper Scissors" casino game?

Like a real casino game, not just the game that was played at that wierd casino in the LV Vacation movie?

Given there is such a game as Casino War, I woulnd't be too surprised to see a Casino Rock/Paper/Scissors" game someday.

In California, naturally, you'd throw a die which a dealer would use to determine which card to turn, which he'd use to determine what gesture to make.

At Casino Royale the coupon book would include one hundred free rocks, to be used only at the designated table. But of course you could only win the progressive.

Later some company would come up with an electronic version called Rapid RPS, with a table the same size but for less players. On the plus side it would only use one dealer instead of three.

FinsRule's Rock, Paper, Scissors Game:

Players declare their choice with putting their chip in either the rock, paper, or scissors betting circle. Player can also make the "Tie" bet if they want, which pays 3:2.

The dealer then shakes a die in one of those dice shakers they use for Pai Gow. If the die is a 1 or 2, it's rock, 3 or 4, is paper, 5 or 6, is scissors.

If the player wins, he wins even money, and if he loses, he loses his bet. If he ties, his bet becomes imprisoned for two more games. Meaning, if he ties two more times in a row, he loses the bet. If he wins or loses during the next two games, the money is resolved. The player does need to make the minimum bet on those subsequent two more games or he loses his original bet.

The player can surrender as well, and receive 1/2 his bet back.

Surrender... that makes me chuckle.

I think that what you'll find is that in 100,000,000,000 trials, only one of them is 50,000,000,000 wins and 50,000,000,000 losses; the others will be evenly distributed, from 49,999,999,999/50,000,000,001 and 50,000,000,001/49,999,999,999 to 100,000,000,000/0 (or 0/100,000,000,000, if you are very unlucky). Therefore it is just as likely that you will win all one hundred billion games as it is that you would split them evenly. Yes, it is a cruel, cruel hoax.

Oh; and do not question me, because I can outlast you. Long after you have become exasperated and stopped paying attention, I will keep writing. Because the only thing that matters is who is left talking. Good? Bad? I'm the guy with the keyboard.

I'm actually shocked that tutti-frutti hasn't made a comment here.

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Oh; and do not question me, because I can outlast you. Long after you have become exasperated and stopped paying attention, I will keep writing. Because the only thing that matters is who is left talking. Good? Bad? I'm the guy with the keyboard.

Cross-posted to new thread: The HOAX that is the probability that Mosca is the guy with the keyboard.

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Cross-posted to new thread: The HOAX that is the probability that Mosca is the guy with the keyboard.

We're 5 days into a week at Disney World. At 3PM this afternoon, Mrs Mosca looked at me and said, "We could have taken this $6500 to Vegas and had fun." I had just been thinking the exact same thing.

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We're 5 days into a week at Disney World. At 3PM this afternoon, Mrs Mosca looked at me and said, "We could have taken this $6500 to Vegas and had fun." I had just been thinking the exact same thing.

You just need to start gambling at Disney World. Find a sucker and bet them $1000 that you can get Mickey Mouse to punch you.