WoV East II

Are we going to have a WoV East II? I think we should, from what I gathered last time around it's largely a matter of agreeing on when and where, and then agreeing on a restaurant. Why don't we just take these things one at a time?

I'll volunteer to keep everybody who came last time up to date by private message. I'll add anyone who says they are thinking about coming, or are coming, and delete anyone who requests it.

Let's start with "where and when". Initial probing has indicated last week of September is good for some of us, including me, although I am mostly flexible for anything past Labor Day weekend. October is out for me.

How about everyone weighing in with their votes who has specific dates and places in mind. I'll withhold from voting for a specific date for now. I also am OK with having it somewhere near where we did last time, or even Cherokee NC this time. I'm voting against The Meadows, or any AC.

I would love to be there but it is going to greatly depend on where it is. I have a 3 month old and a 2 year old now so getting away is a little tough. You must have been reading my mind, I was thinking about posting this same thing the other day, however I think a few people made the effort to show up last time because Mission was running the show. Hopefully he becomes available again for this. Pierce, if you are reading this please give us a shout out and at least give an update as to whats going on with ya. Even though this is just an internet forum, a lot of us worry when a respected member disappears.

This seems to be the last list of attendees + those who considered it. I'm adding some who I can remember considering it too.

Teddys
AZDuffman
RaleighCraps
DRussell0208
KeyserSoze
OneNickelMiracle
Wrongway w/Mrs. Wrongway
Mwalz9
me
GWAE
Vendman1
JohnnyQ
Wudged
Mosca w. Mrs. Mosca (Possibly)
RDW4Potus
Face
Beachbumbabs

everyone on this list will get a PM

It depends. We're going to Atlantis for a week in September, and to Pittsburgh for a weekend in October. And I may be switching employers (but not careers) if so that would impact my mobility for days that are not Sunday.

I would consider going as well. I am pretty open with time frame, it would depend on where it is located though.

I would almost certainly attend and last week of Sept so far is good.

As to where, I prefer to rotate for this kind of thing. Rivers may or may not be out depending on football that weekend and if it is a late game for Pitt parking goes to $40 or something. That is not to say I prefer one of the WV casinos but just saying we should know before we go.

If we go to Meadows again I prefer a different off-site place for dinner or better yet on site as they have changed their dining options.

Otherwise last time went well and I will roll whatever I have banked from the slots-payback to a new high limit pool if others are up for it.

The only problem with the last week of September is that it's G2E in Las Vegas. I don't know who-all is headed for that, but I'm planning to go. The actual G2E dates are Sept.29-Oct.1, with some activities one day either side of that, FWIW. Sounds like the WoV dinner will be either Tue or Wed.

Then again, perhaps no one from the East Coast is planning to go out for that.

Quote: beachbumbabs

The only problem with the last week of September is that it's G2E in Las Vegas. I don't know who-all is headed for that, but I'm planning to go. The actual G2E dates are Sept.29-Oct.1, with some activities one day either side of that, FWIW. Sounds like the WoV dinner will be either Tue or Wed.

Then again, perhaps no one from the East Coast is planning to go out for that.

I'm for backing it up from anything near October already, so 14th through 27th25th [edit] maybe ought to be what we are thinking.

I'd be willing to go if it fits my schedule. Like some others I have small children so getting away is the hardest part. So just pick a place and time that works for the majority and if I can make it I will. I had fun at the last one so here's hoping I can make it.

I will be on a cruise the 4th - 11th of Oct. Aside from that, all of Oct works for me.

Quote: odiousgambit

... or even Cherokee NC this time.

Now, if you choose that destination, I will be interested. I will be there 9/6-7, and we have plans to be in Florida for 9/23-27. I am fairly sure we will not make it back to PA any time soon -- we're in MA right now.

Quote: Doc

Now, if you choose that destination, I will be interested. I will be there 9/6-7, and we have plans to be in Florida for 9/23-27. I am fairly sure we will not make it back to PA any time soon -- we're in MA right now.

Again, if we can get enough wanting to go, I'm good. Your time frame works for me since Labor Day is 9/1

Quote: odiousgambit

Again, if we can get enough wanting to go, I'm good. Your time frame works for me since Labor Day is 9/1

I think 9/6 is too soon. That is in like 2 weeks.

I will definitely attend a Cherokee meet-up if it happens.

Quote: beachbumbabs

I will definitely attend a Cherokee meet-up if it happens.

One thing that may be a big deal for some is the minimums. Does Cherokee have low mins or are they going to be $15 and higher. Cherokee now has real tables right? I know they used to have etables.

I just checked their hotel and they are booked solid for a long while on weekends.

Cherokee has had real table games for about two years. Weekend minimums are higher than I like -- typically $15 and $25 tables for craps. I've never played any of the other games there.

I could do midweek myself (most weeks) but that might not work for others. We are going on the upcoming weekend because a friend is joining us. I think you must have to be Seven Stars level 38 maybe to get weekend rooms at the casino -- I've only stayed there midweek. They comp rooms for us lowlifes at partner hotels in the area.

Quote: Doc

Cherokee has had real table games for about two years. Weekend minimums are higher than I like -- typically $15 and $25 tables for craps. I've never played any of the other games there.

I could do midweek myself (most weeks) but that might not work for others. We are going on the upcoming weekend because a friend is joining us. I think you must have to be Seven Stars tier 38 maybe to get weekend rooms at the casino -- I've only stayed there midweek. They comp rooms for us lowlifes at partner hotels in the area.

that could be a breaking point for me. If I am going to travel I want to be able to play which means I am stuck at $10 min and for craps I would prefer $5 but would deal with $10.

Quote: Doc

I could do midweek myself (most weeks)

well, in any case, I spoke too soon ... hadn't looked at my calender, duh! ... and 6th/7th is out

and as GWAE says, a bit hurried

Quote: Doc

Cherokee has had real table games for about two years. Weekend minimums are higher than I like -- typically $15 and $25 tables for craps. I've never played any of the other games there.

This would kill Cherokee for me. Sorry, but I am a low roller. $10 is about the max I can handle.

Quote: GWAE

One thing that may be a big deal for some is the minimums. Does Cherokee have low mins or are they going to be $15 and higher. Cherokee now has real tables right? I know they used to have etables.

I just checked their hotel and they are booked solid for a long while on weekends.

Cherokee has real tables. I'd estimate 100 or more BJ, 9 craps tables, quite a few Roulette, Mississippi Stud, 3 card poker, baccarat, and a poker room. They do not have any Pai Gow games. I have not been in the poker room, so I have no idea what games they spread in there.

You basically have to call them for a room on the weekends. They keep most of the rooms blocked for gamblers on the weekends. Any Diamond holder can probably get a room without problems. I am Platinum, and the last time I tried to book a room for the upcoming weekend, I was denied a room through the reservation number. I could only get 2 out of the 3 nights I needed. So I had my casino junket agent call, and she secured a room for me for all 3 nights through the casino host interface she has.

at first I thought cherokee would be great since I have 160,000 RCs still so I could eat and stay for free. Couldn't see a room online so that was strike 1 but not a deal breaker. Hearing of the $15 mins is definitely a deal breaker for me.

$15 pass line bet, $10 don't pass line bet. $5 game. Don't roll a 12. What's the problem?

Cherokee definitely out for me but I'm probably doubtful no matter where or when.

Depending on weekend I may be available.
Not available September 13-14, or October until October 25-26.

Since I exchanged PMs with OG, my Sept calendar has filled up on the weekends, so it is unlikely I can do anything unless it is midweek, which I know is probably bad for most everyone else.
OG is out in Oct., so if Sept doesn't work, that would push it into Nov. and that possibly brings bad weather back into the picture. Even Cherokee would have potential problems, as it is in the Smoky Mountains, and they do get snow and ice out there.

Weather in MD and WVA should be fine in Nov.

how about first weekend in November?

i think the limits in MD are going to create an issue. Maybe one of the wva ones. Wheeling would def work and maybe bring mission out of hiding,.

Quote: GWAE

how about first weekend in November?

Oct/Nov is bad for me. Let's give Sept our best shot, if after that it ain't happening then it'll be up to others to work something up.

It also looks like there is quite a bit of concern over Cherokee NC table limits and accommodations. Maybe if somewhere else is a flop entirely, those of us who are still interested can toss it around, knowing nothing else developed.

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Wheeling would def work ...

I am not opposed to Wheeling at all, I liked it there; probably a better choice than smallish Rocky Gap, another place I liked. I don't want to oversell it, Wheeling is Wheeling. Yet size, accommodations, and "niceness", modern, some good things about comps, and such are totally up to snuff IMO. No objection at all.

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... and maybe bring mission out of hiding.

love to see him. Some 'splaning to do, but in no time I expect "all is forgiven" . I sure wouldnt count on an appearance by 'His Nibs'.

Afternoon bump.

Funny what you find browsing sometimes. Somebody needs to find out who "Dark Flames" is or we're screwed!

I think where we are is eliminating Cherokee NC for a couple of reasons, and considering mostly near where it happened last. So far [not including wishes for NC!] we have heard specifics from:

SOOPOO.......... a 'maybe' but not 9-13,14
VCUSkyhawk......... any mid atlantic
GWAE ............. Wheeling [probably flexible]
Mosca................. a 'maybe', Sundays preferred
Me ................... Wheeling [but definitely flexible]
vendman1 ........ a 'maybe', flexible
Raleighcraps ....... weekday

[let me know if I left out someone's comment, it would be easy to do]

I am going to presume: keeping at the same general area as last is a good idea. And that some people would prefer Rivers or The Meadows. We just need to hear from you. I am also going to be so bold as to suggest dates, the 9/21 if a Sunday, 9/24 if during the week, to get things going. BTW the Steelers have an away game on the 21st.

I am not going to presume anyone is coming for sure till they definitely say so!

I'm probably not going to be able to make it, regardless of the date, so I don't want to vote on anything. I might have a change of plans at the last minute so may still attend, however.

I would be there at any day if it is at the Rivers since I could walk. During our last meet I fought against the Rivers for various reasons but I won't get into those this time.

Quote: odiousgambit

I think where we are is eliminating Cherokee NC for a couple of reasons, and considering mostly near where it happened last. So far [not including wishes for NC!] we have heard specifics from:

SOOPOO.......... a 'maybe' but not 9-13,14
VCUSkyhawk......... any mid atlantic
GWAE ............. Wheeling [probably flexible]
Mosca................. a 'maybe', Sundays preferred
Me ................... Wheeling [but definitely flexible]
vendman1 ........ a 'maybe', flexible
Raleighcraps ....... weekday

[let me know if I left out someone's comment, it would be easy to do]

I am going to presume: keeping at the same general area as last is a good idea. And that some people would prefer Rivers or The Meadows. We just need to hear from you. I am also going to be so bold as to suggest dates, the 9/21 if a Sunday, 9/24 if during the week, to get things going. BTW the Steelers have an away game on the 21st.

I am not going to presume anyone is coming for sure till they definitely say so!

I can't drive to NC. I vote keep it local, not Meadows. Keep rotating. Saturday better than Sunday but WOV-East I was a sunday several years back and it worked fine. Steelers are just a blur to me now so either way, just that Rivers needs to be the away weekend as you have already suggested.

We can't do the 21st, we're flying back from Atlantis that day. The 19th of October would be great, we're going to be in Pittsburgh that day for a family function. North Caarolina is a non-starter for us. Any other date, we'd really have to play it by ear.

Looks to me like Rivers might be the right idea. It's the same distance for me as Wheeling, and I'd have to guess there will be a better to the idea.

I'm most likely out no matter when or where this time. Plan without me, I'll probably be in Atlantic City 21-24 anyways.

Hey I could do Meadows or Rivers or Wheeling I will make a serious effort to attend but can't promise anything due to a variable work/family schedule. Would prefer a Sat over a Sunday. But other than that I'm easy.

Any chance Cleveland? North Carolina is too far for me for a one day event. Pittsburgh is about my driving limit. And of course Niagara Falls/Buffalo is the best option!

>Any chance Cleveland?

Maybe we should start calling this WoV WV/VA/PA as that has shown to work last time around ... September was discussed as a next time, which happens to work for me ... none of that precludes others getting together at their own times and places ... and it's pretty clear most are thinking of driving, that does draw up limits.

Let's give it a go for enough interest in the general Pittsb. area / Sept. and see what happens. How many do we need to declare it a quorum?

We need to start voting, I just want to give time here for more to declare interest first.

I'm interested in attending. My schedule is tight for the next 2 - 3 months, so I won't vote on a date. Pittsburgh area works for me.

Never been to any casino in that area. Any decent? What are they like?

Quote: VCUSkyhawk

Never been to any casino in that area. Any decent? What are they like?

I focus on Craps and they seem competitive in the area for that at least. Minimums tend to be reasonable and 10x odds is spreading. Havent been to Rivers Casino though.

Here are my experiences at the 3 places talked about. I live nearby to Rivers but I generally play at the Meadows because they have lower limits.

Rivers-
Craps: During the week you can find a $5 table early in the day. They have 10x odds. Generally the tables are $10 or $15 in the evening. I was there last week on a Wednesday and they had 1 $10 table and 3 $15 tables. They have a promotion that when you shoot you give the box your players card and they keep track of how many rolls you made. If you make 60 rolls you win the bounty which starts at $500 and grows $100 every day. The dealers are generally pretty good but there are TVs surrounding the table and you will quite often see them paying attention to ESPN and talking among themselves. I have vowed never to tip again at this place since my last tip was dropped without so much as a look.
Blackjack: very rarely do you see a $5 table. If they have one it is always on a csm. $10 tables are also mostly on csm's. They have about 25 BJ tables and only 5 or 6 of them have 8 deck shoes which are always $15-$100 tables.
Food: They have a decent buffet but a little pricey at $26. The wheel house is like a sports bar and cafe mixed. I really like their food. There is a little cafe, ice cream/sandwich shop, and a Steak house. There are also a few places very close by that are bar/restaurants.
Other notes: There is also a current promotion that on Thursday nights they have a pit with $5 blackjack tables and $5 craps tables. I think it runs 5pm-2am or something like that. The casino is super busy just about every weekend and if we have the goal to play at craps together it will be tough as they get a lot of action on their craps tables.
http://www.riverscasino.com/pittsburgh/

Meadows-
Craps: I almost always see a $5 table even on Saturday nights. They have 10x odds. A few weeks back there was a $5 on a Sat. night but 3 $10 tables. I generally like their dealers, even the ones that are not real good are at least very friendly. When I tip I will even get thanked by the floor (I think they use a lot of dual rate).
Blackjack: They always have a $5 table. Sometimes it is a 6 deck shoe and sometimes it is a csm. They have a good mix of $10 and $15 games as well and again sometimes they are shoe dealt and sometimes csm dealt.
Food: They have the Carvery which is horrible. There is a decent food court and also a steak house. There is not much to eat in the surrounding areas.
Other notes: The current promotion is free drinks while playing tables. They say it is a summer promotion so I am not sure how much longer it is lasting. I will also admit that I am biased towards the Meadows out of the 3 local places because they cater to the low roller which is me. Last time some people took advantage of the webpass promotion. They still have the Webpass but the rewards are not nearly as good as they used to be.
http://www.meadowsgaming.com/

Wheeling-
Craps: I have not played much here lately but they do have $5 tables. They are generally not busy unless it is a Saturday night.
Blackjack: They always have a $5 table.
Food: They have a food court, steak house, and cafe. The cafe is decent and I really like the steak house.
Other notes: The last 3 times I have been here the tables were basically empty. They also have dog racing. I have not been here in at least 6 months so things may have changed. Someone like MISSION could give us a little more info on this place.
http://www.wheelingisland.com/

Quote: GWAE

Wheeling-
Craps: I have not played much here lately but they do have $5 tables. They are generally not busy unless it is a Saturday night.
Blackjack: They always have a $5 table.
Food: They have a food court, steak house, and cafe. The cafe is decent and I really like the steak house.
Other notes: The last 3 times I have been here the tables were basically empty. They also have dog racing. I have not been here in at least 6 months so things may have changed. Someone like MISSION could give us a little more info on this place.
http://www.wheelingisland.com/

I admire how you hold out hope for Mission, it tells me maybe I have gotten too pessimistic. We shall see what we shall see.
The steak house is pretty pricey, no? I don't remember the Cafe [pretty bad eh?] Kept eating at the buffet.
When I was there a couple of months ago the Craps was 10x and $5 min, a nice combination.

GWAE,

Could you contrast the three on carnival games available, please? UTH, 3CP, Double Draw, Hi Card Flush, etc. Thanks!

Quote: beachbumbabs

GWAE,

Could you contrast the three on carnival games available, please? UTH, 3CP, Double Draw, Hi Card Flush, etc. Thanks!

I do not play most carnival games but I can give a detailed breakdown by the weekend as I will be at the Rivers tomorrow for a little while and at the Meadows on Friday for a giveaway.

I think I could give a pretty good breakdown right now but there are a few games that have just disappeared.

Reading between the lines sometimes, what we have as a consensus seems to be some place with low minimums. Otherwise, without consensus, only one vote for a Sunday, a couple of votes for a Saturday, a couple of votes for weekdays if I count myself.

Considering the single consensus, I think we should now rule out The Rivers, or speak up if you want there. This leaves Wheeling, which no one has spoken against, and The Meadows, which has had a couple of grumbles including my own. So,

*please vote between Wheeling and the Meadows, and ....

*voice also your opinion between a weekday or Saturday.

I for one would like to firm up plans

We can do Meadows or Rivers, Wheeling is an hour too far. We can't do Saturday, but if it's a Tuesday we can do it during the week.

Is Rocky Gap still in? I'd like to go there because it's one of few casinos I've never been too.

Otherwises, my preferences for Pittsburgh-area casinos are:
1/1a: Rivers & Meadows
2: Wheeling Island

Quote: teddys

Is Rocky Gap still in? I'd like to go there because it's one of few casinos I've never been too.

kinda small , and the food situation baffles me. Probably not a good idea, but I hope you get there someday. Or rouse up support and we'll go!