My worst casino moment
My one remaining business partner, is 20 years my senior and a member of all the different 50+ clubs, so in addition to planning and scheduling our day according to gaming opportunities, both blackjack and bonus things, we try to time things so that we can take advantage of all the different senior day promotion, many food related, that the different local casinos offer on certain weekdays. Even though our meals are comped, any 50% discounts that he receives stretches and maximizes our food comp dollar.
So today it was Palms. We ate lunch at the 24/7 café, which is one of my favorite places simply because of their delicious cookies and bakery items. Otherwise, I find their food only average, but overpriced, because palms employs what I call resort pricing, or overpricing. But on Thursdays they offer seniors 50+, 1/2 price at both the buffet and the 24/7 café, so my partner's meal is discounted.
So after we both place our order and he shows his players card with the 'sterling 50+ sticker', the waitress asks if we are both sterling members! In my VERY early 30's, I do not look to be 21 or under as I did for many years during my 20's even into my late 20's, and that already is a little depressing, but my god, I am nearly 2 full decades from joining any sterling 50+ club! I looked at her in disbelief. After a few seconds this looked to be 20 something twit, asked again! So, in a tone designed to show my displeasure, I finally said, "no, I am thirty-blank, thanks for thinking I am 50" and she walked away. My partner said I WAS the one who was rude. Not sure how he figures that....lol.
It doesn't make the fact any easier to swallow however. Happy 50th btw LOL
Quote: rdw4potusDude! I get your point. We're about the same age, and I'm also just now starting to look like I shouldn't be carded at the entrance of the casino. But, you're an AP. How is the answer to this particular idiotic question not "yes! And I want my damn discount!"
Lol. I guess I didn't think fast enough, rdw. Maybe I am closer to 50 than I realize.
being asked by a waitress if you are over 50 so that she can apply a discount for your benefit is your absolute WORST moment?
was this your second day in a casino ?
maybe its not her
maybe you just look worn out....maybe when she looked at you she got the vibe that you had the energy and manner of an older man.
Maybe take some vitamins, dress nicely, comb your hair, shave, get a good nights sleep....and try again..Ibet the results will be better and your WORST experience in your casino life will be a distant memory.
Quote: djatcOn the flip side do you get carded at "hip" casinos like the hard rock? 90% of the time I get carded in there. Speaking of food being g expensive, 24/7 is a great deal I think. My $25 food credit goes farther then a $45 comp at hard rock. Quick tip about 24/7. They'll let you do take put with comps, something I've never seen at any other place
Funny story about no take out. I was at a restaurant that shall remain nameless and asked for the desert in a to go box to eat later that night. The waitress informed me that they couldn't do take out with comped food. So I asked for dessert and a take out box. Turns out there's no rule against that.
Quote: LarrySPretty melodramtic,,,,"worst moment in a casino"......REALLY???
being asked by a waitress if you are over 50 so that she can apply a discount for your benefit is your absolute WORST moment?
was this your second day in a casino ?
maybe its not her
maybe you just look worn out....maybe when she looked at you she got the vibe that you had the energy and manner of an older man.
Maybe take some vitamins, dress nicely, comb your hair, shave, get a good nights sleep....and try again..Ibet the results will be better and your WORST experience in your casino life will be a distant memory.
Your post really doesn't deserve a response, as you are just trying to be nasty, but I will do you the honor. Why would you suggest, that I am ungroomed and not nicely dressed? Does, putting me down, somehow make you feel better?
Quote: geoffFunny story about no take out. I was at a restaurant that shall remain nameless and asked for the desert in a to go box to eat later that night. The waitress informed me that they couldn't do take out with comped food. So I asked for dessert and a take out box. Turns out there's no rule against that.
That's how t works everywhere. I get something dine in just to box it up. Waiters just want tips imo
Quote: kewljYour post really doesn't deserve a response, as you are just trying to be nasty, but I will do you the honor. Why would you suggest, that I am ungroomed and not nicely dressed? Does, putting me down, somehow make you feel better?
you can now start a new thread
"The Worst response I ever got in my entire life on a thread"
agreed, at one of the cannery's, when I ordered one entree to go with a bogo coupon, they explained that there would be a 10% add on to the to go order, and I explained that I could only tip based on one order. Of course in the end I payed more than 10% on the tip on the 2nd entree and the waitress got tipped based on the total bill.Quote: djatcThat's how t works everywhere. I get something dine in just to box it up. Waiters just want tips imo
Titling this thread "your worst day in a casino", and then going on and on about someone thinking you looked older than your age, is something I would've expected from JJ or some attention whorish woman.
Perhaps you do look 50. Living on casino food probably isn't slowing the aging process, nor are the Palms cookies you referred to liking so much. Studies have shown that when most people look in the mirror, they appear 10-12 years younger to themself then they do to other people. Maybe the stressful nightmare of training a poker player to count cards added years to your complexion. How much time does playing blackjack and eating at all you can eat buffets leave for exercise??
Quote: LarrySyou can now start a new thread
"The Worst response I ever got in my entire life on a thread"
I agree, this thread is a little melodramatic on Kewlj's part. I mean, advantage players have been falsely imprisoned and beaten bloody in casinos. Ken Uston was (probably intentionally) run over by a car at a casino. James Grosjean was falsely arrested, falsely imprisoned, and then left to rot for days in jail. If you're an AP and your worst experience involves a cashier mindlessly asking if you're a member of a senior citizens club, you've lived a pretty charmed gambling life.
The cashier was probably required to ask, anyway. I remember when I worked as a cashier, the computer wouldn't let me ring up cigarettes until I entered the customer's birth date. This reflected store policy to ID everyone who was buying cigarettes, no matter the age. Most of the time if the customer was obviously well over 18, I just made up a birth date for the computer. But if the manager was watching, I had to ask granny for her ID. Such is life for an employee in the indentured servitude of corporate America. Be happy you don't have a real job.
But regardless, it does seem that some of these responses were meant to be nasty and not humorous. Every once in a while on this site, I feel like "why do I bother participating here again". And this is yet another one of those times.
Ok, ok I thought the same thing, how can this be his worst moment is a casino. I'm sure it's not a bad thing by your standard, but it seems to have been something that affected him. Kind of like if you tell a chick she is fat. However, this is his story to tell, let him tell it, it didn't affect you.Quote: LarrySPretty melodramtic,,,,"worst moment in a casino"......REALLY???
being asked by a waitress if you are over 50 so that she can apply a discount for your benefit is your absolute WORST moment?
was this your second day in a casino ?
maybe its not her
maybe you just look worn out....maybe when she looked at you she got the vibe that you had the energy and manner of an older man.
Maybe take some vitamins, dress nicely, comb your hair, shave, get a good nights sleep....and try again..Ibet the results will be better and your WORST experience in your casino life will be a distant memory.
Bad moments:
I once forgot to cash out hundreds of dollars from a machine, only to have someone take it, in less then 3 min(a few times). I have had a thousand dollar slot tickets stolen from my room. I have left my wallet on top of a slot machine with thousands in it. I have been beaten and detained for literally nothing by security guards. I have been threatened by patrons and employees. locals at a nice bar in good part of the city said, they were going to wait outside, beat me and take "their" progressive jackpot money back. Blackmail attempts have been made towards me by competitors. I have been attacked by Asian competitors. I have watched friends have seizures in casinos. I seen someone die in a casino, from a heart attack.
I have to admit, I read it differently as you told it. I thought the waitress/cashier was giving you a wink on the age thing and would have given both of you the discount (fishing for a bigger tip by doing so). Like she expected a response of, "Yeah, I'm 50 in dog years" or something funny. Just a little graft offered with a smile, like the 20 dollar upgrade I got tonight (I'm in a suite for 6 nights instead of the room I booked).
I wasn't there. I could be wrong. But i'm guessing the last thing she expected (or intended) was to offend you.
JMHO.
Quote: kewljOk, the thread was made with some humor.
Obviously, geez
But shame on you for getting nasty
Actually, I'm surprised they don't demand ID
Quote: beachbumbabsI thought the waitress/cashier was giving you a wink on the age thing and would have given both of you the discount (fishing for a bigger tip by doing so).
Have to think B4 nailed it. Am beyond amazed at the nasty response. And your reaction to members' comments now that you've put this up for all to see.
Quote: chickenmanAm beyond amazed at the nasty response.
Agreed. It was a funny story, and obviously the title of the thread was "tongue in cheek".
A single incident doesn't come to mind for me in the "Worst Casino Moment" category, so that's good. But from time to time you run in to rude people at the BJ tables who have to criticize someone not playing Basic Strategy. Others have mentioned that in this thread as well.
I hit a $ 1000 Royal Flush at Terrible's years ago, and I thought I kept seeing the same guy watching me. So I was just being cautious and was trying to be aware of my environment which I think is a good thing to do at all times. Maybe there was nothing to it. Anyway, since it was broad daylight and my brother was with me, at first we hung around a bit iniside Terrible's but then eventually walked back to Tuscany with no incident. If I was more concerned, of course it would have been easy to take a cab as well.
I think so too. It was either an oblique way of asking "would you like a discount also" or perhaps she was just very tired and was going through the motions on a slightly defective autopilot?Quote: beachbumbabsI wasn't there. I could be wrong. But i'm guessing the last thing she expected (or intended) was to offend you.
JMHO.
I would never put a wallet on top of a slot machine, so leaving it there is difficult for me to imagine.
I'm curious about the "Asian cometition.
Sometimes people have a totally different eye for age than others. I've had dealers think I'm in my 30's while other dealers tell me "you have to be at least 21 to be in the casino" as if I were a teenager.
Quote: LarrySyou can now start a new thread
"The Worst response I ever got in my entire life on a thread"
That was actually funny.
My first thought to the worst ever experience was that the waitress simply doesn't understand how it works. She may have not excluded the possibility that you can be a member if you are related to a member like at her credit union, nor cared to find out and so simply asks when in doubt. You either look 50 or you don't, it's not all that subjective. Young adults get carded because they don't look 27, not necessarily because they don't look 18.
Quote: kewljOk, the thread was made with some humor. Obviously as a professional blackjack player, who has lost 10's of thousands of dollars in a single day many times, an insulting comment about my age is not the worst things that has ever happened to me in a casino. But yes, I was offended and I would think most people would be offended if someone suggested they were 20 years older than they were. Especially someone in the service industry....insulting people is not exactly the way to increase tips.
But regardless, it does seem that some of these responses were meant to be nasty and not humorous. Every once in a while on this site, I feel like "why do I bother participating here again". And this is yet another one of those times.
Take heart. Unfortunately rudeness is endemic in our culture, and is usually inversely proportional with age.
Quote: JohnzimboOne time I was trapped at a craps table full of dice influencers. Still have nightmares.
Yeah... but there are no dice influencers, so why have nightmares about them.
Quote: djatcThat's how t works everywhere.
Is that the Vegas norm? I get comped takeout at Valley Forge and various AC casinos a few times a week. It's never been an issue.
Quote: kewljBut regardless, it does seem that some of these responses were meant to be nasty and not humorous. Every once in a while on this site, I feel like "why do I bother participating here again". And this is yet another one of those times.
Just block Larry; it makes the forum a lot better. Why he has not been nuked is one of the great mysteries of the universe.
Quote: AxiomOfChoiceJust block Larry; it makes the forum a lot better. Why he has not been nuked is one of the great mysteries of the universe.
Maybe the mods have blocked him? He's sure crossed the line enough times to deserve a nuking.
Quote: FleaStiffI'm curious about the "Asian competition."
In the heyday of advantage slots Asian teams would monopolize entire casinos. They did it in New Jersey, Foxwoods, Motor City in Detroit. They were a well networked bunch. If one guy lost a casino and another guy lost a casino in a different town they would just switch positions. They monopolized Paris after it opened. For a couple of years they had the MGM Grand in Vegas monopolized....until they were all lined up by security and marched out the door. A friend of mine was threatened by the Asians when he showed up at Harrrah's Joliet. Most of them were illegal. It was funny as hell watching them scatter when one of them hit a taxable jackpot.
Quote: mickeycrimmIn the heyday of advantage slots Asian teams would monopolize entire casinos. They did it in New Jersey, Foxwoods, Motor City in Detroit. They were a well networked bunch. If one guy lost a casino and another guy lost a casino in a different town they would just switch positions. They monopolized Paris after it opened. For a couple of years they had the MGM Grand in Vegas monopolized....until they were all lined up by security and marched out the door. A friend of mine was threatened by the Asians when he showed up at Harrrah's Joliet. Most of them were illegal. It was funny as hell watching them scatter when one of them hit a taxable jackpot.
They still do that at Mystic Lake in MN. Or they did 18 months ago when I left the state. They vultured must-hit slots, Golden Monkey, Green Stamps. When there were no plays, the guys who weren't slot spotters would count and wong the living crap out of the HL BJ tables. Most dense pit crews I've ever seen. I asked "why do you let them do that?" PB responded "They just don't have any attention span." It was like watching a flock of birds in that room flittering from high count to high count.
Quote: rdw4potusThey still do that at Mystic Lake in MN. Or they did 18 months ago when I left the state. They vultured must-hit slots, Golden Monkey, Green Stamps. When there were no plays, the guys who weren't slot spotters would count and wong the living crap out of the HL BJ tables. Most dense pit crews I've ever seen. I asked "why do you let them do that?" PB responded "They just don't have any attention span." It was like watching a flock of birds in that room flittering from high count to high count.
Sounds good to me!
Quote: HunterhillThere was an asian crew blowing smoke in my partner's face because they wanted that particular seat. I told them I was going to shove the cigarette down their throats. I do remember all the Asians at Foxwoods and in Ac.
Lol. I would light up a big fat cigar and return fire.
Quote: AxelWolfOk, ok I thought the same thing, how can this be his worst moment is a casino. I'm sure it's not a bad thing by your standard, but it seems to have been something that affected him. Kind of like if you tell a chick she is fat. However, this is his story to tell, let him tell it, it didn't affect you.
It may be insulting to be told you are fat. But there is no shame in being 50 years old....unless you are bigoted against people who are 50.
Its not a slam for someone to ask if you qualifty for a 50+ discount. It was asked in order to give him a benefit....not to ridicule him.
Maybe the waitress got slammed by her manager in the past for assuming someone wasnt 50 and not giving the discount or asking...and getting a complaint against her. Maybe she feels its not worth it to guess anymore and just asks.
If this gives the man angst.....he will have a nervous breakdown before the end of his life.
There is another thread about a guy that got 1600 dollars confiscated. Even he didnt categorize it as the worst day in a casino.
I once at at a casino resteraunt in reno, handed in my card and said I was a senior, I get 20 percent off for a meal plus I pay forit with my comp card....the waitress give me an my wife both the 20 percent discount.......my wife didnt qualify as a senior......should she be upset? It wasnt a slam on her....it was simply being nice and giving a discount.
Quote: rdw4potusT They vultured must-hit slots, Golden Monkey, Green Stamps.
I remember Biloxi had alot of web reported "starts at xxxxx dollars, must hit by xxxxxxxxdollars". I generally oppose playing slot machines due to the percentages involved and this "life time" instead of "next pull" stuff, but several times I would look at the IP's history table on those machines and see how predictable they were.
I recall one casino had four slot machines in a quad... and four Asians most definitely camped out and not speaking to any one.
Quote: AxiomOfChoiceJust block Larry; it makes the forum a lot better. Why he has not been nuked is one of the great mysteries of the universe.
If one has a great life, a great family, great friends, all of them generally healthy, a great job, and can do the things they want in their spare time..... little things like ..why did a waitress ask if I am 50, or why is Larrys not banned dont even cross ones mind. Life is too good.Its easy to blow things off.
but if someone is unhappy in life...they live for wallowing in angst. And question the motives of a waitress, or the competency of moderators.....in my opinion.
but in the end, happy people and unhappy people are all gods children.
They first pushed my friend for a frivolous reason, a mini war began( I posted about it in a different thread).
One of them cowardly attacked me, I was sitting in my car picking it up from valet, as it had a Targa top. It was not a big deal, it just pissed me off that he ran when I jumped out. It was more upsetting they targeted my friend frequently since he was not as confrontational as I was. Most everyone liked him, he was nice to everyone so this was totally unwarranted. Security seemed ambivalent for some odd reason.
After that play was dead, they showed up and tried a VP progressives at the Rio(no doubt a hustler told them about it), thank god it was a 3 day runner because they never seemed to advance their AP after that. Last i heard one of them was delivering Chinese food in north town.
After the explosion of IGT Vision Series Slots, which because of the eventual Asian competition, became only a side gig for me in between other plays or as i was walking from place to place. I really didn't like stalking ploppies and there machines all day. I noticed the Bellagio was filled with Asian competitors. They would do all kinds of unscrupulous things to ploppies and other AP's. They had a different set of ethics towards ploppies and the competition when compared to most good old AP's. No all of them of course. I meet a few very nice honest Asian guys and girls, some who did well, without underhanded tactics. Most of the bad ones fade away after a particular play is dead. The good ones tend to advance.
Quote: AxelWolfAfter the explosion of IGT Vision Series Slots, which because of the eventual Asian competition, became only a side gig for me in between other plays or as i was walking from place to place. I really didn't like stalking ploppies and there machines all day. I noticed the Bellagio was filled with Asian competitors. They would do all kinds of unscrupulous things to ploppies and other AP's. They had a different set of ethics towards ploppies and the competition when compared to most good old AP's. No all of them of course. I meet a few very nice honest Asian guys and girls, some who did well, without underhanded tactics. Most of the bad ones fade away after a particular play is dead. The good ones tend to advance.
Axel I don't know if you remember this but a Chinese and Vietnamese got into a fight in Bellagio over a dollar Cherry Pie. The Chinese guy cut the Vietnamese guy. The Chinese guy went to jail and the Vietnamese guy went to the hospital.
