darkoz
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April 14th, 2014 at 8:04:58 PM permalink
I got a problem. Would really like to PM rather than make it public.

Involves confiscated money--sixteen hundred bucks--not money won. It was my own money!
sodawater
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April 14th, 2014 at 8:05:56 PM permalink
so what happened?

if youre in vegas, i have heard good things about Bob Nersesian (702) 385-5454
darkoz
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April 14th, 2014 at 8:09:49 PM permalink
No, its not Vegas. Its on the East Coast. I'm a bit embarrassed to discuss it although I feel I have the right to my money.
AxelWolf
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April 14th, 2014 at 8:15:55 PM permalink
Quote: sodawater

so what happened?

if youre in vegas, i have heard good things about Bob Nersesian (702) 385-5454

Well there better have been some beating, detaining or personal freedom violations going on.if it's just for 1600 I wouldn't call Bob. This sounds like the last guy who was using someone elses free play and they confiscated the entire amount tickets. Who knows? Best thing is to post the basics on here I have a feeling he will get just as good as advice. But i don't like where its headed for him.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
LarryS
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April 14th, 2014 at 8:20:17 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Well there better have been some beating, detaining or personal freedom violations going on.if it's just for 1600 I wouldn't call Bob. This sounds like the last guy who was using someone elses free play and they confiscated the entire amount tickets. Who knows? Best thing is to post the basics on here I have a feeling he will get just as good as advice. But i don't like where its headed for him.



well if its already confiscated, and its only 1600...then I dont see a lawyer taking the case. So it would be in your best interest to talk it out here.

or just file a small claims court case for a few bucks and take your chances.
darkoz
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April 14th, 2014 at 8:31:32 PM permalink
Yeah its def small claims. I just wanted advice without being beat up by the trolls. I guess I'll go ahead.

So basically I am banned from a local casino. I am banned because of LEGAL AP play. Not because of anything illegal.

I didn't feel like travelling out my way so I went in disguise. My disguise is excellent. I even shook hands at one point with the security guy who banned me.

I finished gambling and after so many cash-in cash-outs(slots) I had about sixteen hundred in ones, fives and twenties.

Didn't want to carry so many bills so I went to a slot machine and put them all in, then cashed out. Had more than one voucher but it all added up to sixteen hundred.

Went to the cash machine and it said see cashier. I figured there was a barcode error from that slot cause all the vouchers said that.

The cashier scanned them and said I didn't play any spins.

I replied no. Just wanted to consolidate all my small bills.

She replied these have been flagged as money laundering. She could cash them if I presented ID.

I replied its still my money. I offered to go and play some spins but she said it was too late, they were scanned.

She said by law they have to make a report of possible money laundering to the Feds.

I have never been arrested or in trouble with the law and certainly am no money launderer so I really don't care if they look at my name BUT

I was in disguise. My ID don't look like me and I'm banned from the casino. So I said I have no ID and she told me to come back and that only I(in my disguise) could cash them as the vouchers were now flagged and recorded.

SO I am hoping I can get the money through small claims court as I can't prove who I am in disguise nor can I go back as myself nor can I send someone else in.

Even if I was trespassing, it still is my money and we aren't talking a few dollars here.

Any positive help from you guys is appreciated.
darkoz
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April 14th, 2014 at 8:36:23 PM permalink
I should point out I still have the vouchers which are bearer instruments.

But can't cash them.
Ibeatyouraces
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April 14th, 2014 at 8:38:11 PM permalink
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FleaStiff
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April 14th, 2014 at 8:42:54 PM permalink
You will probably LOSE in Small Claims court.

First clarify the "banned".... did you sign anything? Were you merely verbally "tresspassed"... check with your local state law regarding penalites and statutes of limitations.

Second, see that the various tapes get kept.

You can prove several hours in the casino at various games prior to the so-called money laundering.

And ... GET A LAWYER.

If you go to small claims you get ONE SHOT, for money damages ONLY and its usually not even a judge but a lawyer who thinks he is Solomon.

They may try to say Okay, its not seized for money laundering its seized as unlawful winnings during trespass, but that is not necessarily what the law allows.

Indian casino? What state law applies to trespass?

GET A LAWYER.

Let us know what jurisdiction this is though. Sounds like Atlantic City.
darkoz
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April 14th, 2014 at 8:45:32 PM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

Why not just take the bills to the cage in the first place instead of the machine?



Cause I really wasn't thinking of money laundering. I have no involvement in that stuff and I just felt I was consolidating a lot of small bills. I just didn't see this as an issue since I put money in from my pockets into the machine.

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