Odds of casino player finding a girl.
Ok, enough silly business, relationships can be tricky, nevermind one that has the added pressure of one of the participants enjoying gambling. You have to have paramenters but also involve your other half. Ask her to come with you, spend at least as much time with her as you do at the tables.
Perhaps equate your gambling to her shopping? I have done that with success and failure before.
Relationships based on communication, trust and love can withstand anything (within reason of course).
Just be hoest about what you do and involve her, would be my best guess!
However, if this is the singular issue, what I would do about it is to make future relationships dependent on an early understanding and acceptance of this about you. You'll have to bring it up in the first serious conversation about work/hobbies/interests. As Tom said, be honest, and if she's compatible with what you're doing, involve her. If she's not, but doesn't judge you for your activity or carp on your spending time doing that instead of...well, "spending time", with her, then that still could work. If her reaction is less than favorable, she's not the girl for you, assuming you expect to eventually choose between AC and her to her detriment.
Axel, who I don't know, might be a good example; he's been an AP for a long time, says he and his GF have been together for 17 years. So he's (and she's) making it work somehow.
there is always the "whats in it for me" question you have to answer for your lady
whats in it for her?
If there is absolutely nothing there she would enjoy....theN you cant keep dragging her along. To what end?
find time to go on your own...and do otherthing you enjoy together
what good is it if you win, and she begrudgingly plays sots and loses without getting any real entertainemnt value.
I never reccomend anyone gambling half-assed. If she is not into it, and wont devote time into learning strategy , money mgmt etc...no sense forcing her to play just to pass time.
There is really limited places forher to keep going outside of gambling in atlantic city.
Quote: LarrySIts boring to stand and watch the other person.
there is always the "whats in it for me" question you have to answer for your lady
whats in it for her?
If there is absolutely nothing there she would enjoy....theN you cant keep dragging her along. To what end?
find time to go on your own...and do otherthing you enjoy together
what good is it if you win, and she begrudgingly plays sots and loses without getting any real entertainemnt value.
I never reccomend anyone gambling half-assed. If she is not into it, and wont devote time into learning strategy , money mgmt etc...no sense forcing her to play just to pass time.
There is really limited places forher to keep going outside of gambling in atlantic city.
I agree with this. I sometimes see women sit behind their boyfriends at the poker table and they look utterly bored. I can't imagine putting a girl through that.
Quote: Lemieux66I agree with this. I sometimes see women sit behind their boyfriends at the poker table and they look utterly bored. I can't imagine putting a girl through that.
That is when they ask for money to go shopping. And if you happen to be winning, they want more money to go shopping.
Quote: bwThat is when they ask for money to go shopping. And if you happen to be winning, they want more money to go shopping.
This is why I'm single.
It's not that hard at all. It's finding one whose dream is you that is a lot more difficult.Quote: Lemieux66My dream is to find an attractive woman whom is a winning poker player. I find this impossible.
Quote: geoffIt's not that hard at all. It's finding one whose dream is you that is a lot more difficult.
That's a little harsh, we don't know anything about our boy Lemieux here, apart from his moniker representing a mediocre hockey player at best :)
Although the guy who hacked OkCupid to find a mate did fairly well. Maybe it's all in statistics, what to type in an online profile and buzzwords to get females to respond better. Men lie, women lie, but numbers don't.
Quote: djatcwhite women/black women/green women.
Where do you find these green women and how much do they cost? :)
Quote: djatcI remember having a conversation with some gamblers who came to an agreement that most of them end up with Asian women.
I don't have any statistics to back this up, but my guess is that most of those Asian women are probably foreign born. In general, foreign-born Asian women seem to gamble more than American-born women.
Quote: TomspurWhere do you find these green women and how much do they cost? :)
Hopefully free since they are already flush with green all over their body....
Quote: Beethoven9thI don't have any statistics to back this up, but my guess is that most of those Asian women are probably foreign born. In general, foreign-born Asian women seem to gamble more than American-born women.
To add to the post I read the less religious a country the more likely it's citizens have no qualms about gambling. Although places like Sweden and Denmark make the top list of most atheists but they don't seem to gamble as much. It could have been the more superstitious the people in it's country, such as Chinese culture or Korean culture.
What good are they, if they can't rack and cash your chips? A good one will go get more money for you and even help you Rat hole ;)Quote: Lemieux66This is why I'm single.
I know a lot of happily married or long term relationshipers in the AP world, I don't think it really has anything to do with gambling(if your really not just "gambling"). They may use this as a reason, however its really just ammo for a good excuse. Any time someone is traveling for business often, it can put a strain on a relationship but I think that's more of trust issues(who wouldn't want to get rid of their BF for a few days? OH ya, women. I forgot they are crazy). It would not matter if its for gambling or you were a traveling salesman. The fact is if they really like you, they will stand behind you and root you on and be proud. I know my GF is proud of what I do and always has been.
If its a matter your women wanting more time with you, that's just a matter of simple logistics.
Not sure if you have a real job and then do the AP on the side as well. If that's the case they may all have a good point about you being a way far to often. I cant imagine girl not wanting to accompany their man on a casino getaway. Nice rooms, dinners, shows, shopping, the board walk.
Teach her how to play poker? I know my GF can beat up to 5-10 limit, as long as its not full of all pros. Nice thing is, she never tilts or plays to many hands.(But I have seen tears in her eyes on a NL JJ- AA floped set, all in, bad beat) She has no confidence in NL she over thinks it. she thinks people try to bluff and intimidate her because she is a girl. She wont bluff in NL. She has to be in the perfect mood to play.
teach her 9/6 jacks? full pay machines? Bonus hunting?
Give her a budget to spend?
Cut her in on the action and move up levels? If your doing well this should peak her interests.
If not, start dating casino employees or something.
Quote: AxelWolfIf not, start dating casino employees or something.
Please don't do that.....they are the worst!!! Learn from my mistakes :)
I dated many casino employees, they were no more trouble then any other.Quote: TomspurPlease don't do that.....they are the worst!!! Learn from my mistakes :)
Sometimes it simply that when you reveal you drink, they may ask Can You Control It, but when you reveal you gamble they would never ask Can You Control It? They see you pawning the kid's gold bracelet to put down an odds bet...and they sure don't see you winning.
It takes a smart woman to ask the relevant questions:
Do you win?
If you lose, do you lose more than you can afford to?
Is Brandy, a cigar and a woman part of your gambling experience?
If I don't go along with you, will a woman become part of your gambling experience.
And it takes an even smarter woman to say:
I like to gamble too. I'm pretty good at it. When the cards go against me, I won't complain and I don't want you to either.
Its part of our life together but its not a defining moment for either of us.
Quote: IbeatyouracesYou mean black eyes.
Call it a blue eye where I'm from but I give it to you.....black eyes, yes!
Quote: IbeatyouracesYou throw billiard chalk at them? :-)
Billiard balls maybe :)
Quote: djatcI remember having a conversation with some gamblers who came to an agreement that most of them end up with Asian women. I think it's because they are more accepting of gambling as a profession, and more likely then not Asian women gamble more than white women/black women/green women.
Although the guy who hacked OkCupid to find a mate did fairly well. Maybe it's all in statistics, what to type in an online profile and buzzwords to get females to respond better. Men lie, women lie, but numbers don't.
I'm on OKC:)
Oh I also go to casting calls for the CBS reality shows.
Quote: Lemieux66I'm also an usher at a Broadway theatre. It doesn't pay that much but it's good for the hours and it gives me a lot of flexibility. Lately, my schedule has consisted of working Tuesday and Wednesday, going to AC Wednesday night through Saturday morning, back to work Saturday through Sunday afternoon and then I'm home until Tuesday. So I'm not exactly just gone all the time. I even have dates on certain work days.
Oh I also go to casting calls for the CBS reality shows.
He's a cold, calculating card shark with an unknown past. She's a down on her luck aspiring model with a heart of gold. This summer starring Lemieux66 and Olivia Wilde it's "Aces Wild". (Plus she's a zombie or something)
Quote: geoffHe's a cold, calculating card shark with an unknown past. She's a down on her luck aspiring model with a heart of gold. This summer starring Lemieux66 and Olivia Wilde it's "Aces Wild". (Plus she's a zombie or something)
Yeah!
Quote: Beethoven9thI don't have any statistics to back this up, but my guess is that most of those Asian women are probably foreign born. In general, foreign-born Asian women seem to gamble more than American-born women.
I dont think foreign born asian women enjoy watching their men gamble more than others. i think they were raised to be deferential to men. No womens lib.
No equality. in the home, at work.
So if the man wants them to sit for 6 hours and watch them play poker....thats what they will do.
doesnt mean that they enjoy it.
The next time you are in a casino, take some time to look around at the people. You will see that there are lots of couples. You'll see them at table games, you'll see them at slots, you'll see them at vp, in the sports book, in the race book, everywhere.
Find a woman that likes casino gambling. That's about it.
Quote: MoscaCasino gambling is something my wife and I have in common. In fact, we plan vacations around the nearest casinos.
The next time you are in a casino, take some time to look around at the people. You will see that there are lots of couples. You'll see them at table games, you'll see them at slots, you'll see them at vp, in the sports book, in the race book, everywhere.
Find a woman that likes casino gambling. That's about it.
Yeah but I don't want a woman who plays -EV games lol
Quote: hook3670Mosca is 100% correct. My wife loves casinos and gambling and that was established from our second date on. Her father and step mother like casinos. I think you need to establish that right away and you wont have any problems. My wife loved the slots but she has learned to play VP and table games. Also, show her there are things to do, dinners, shows etc...
I think a big issue is that I live in NYC and travel to AC. Women aren't really into the 2.5 hour trip especially since they have jobs. It's tough.
Quote: Lemieux66Yeah but I don't want a woman who plays -EV games lol
I get it, but that's only part of the point. There are AP women, too. You AP players tend to be lone wolves, that would hold true regardless of gender, which is what makes it harder to meet up. Maybe you should use AP techniques to meet AP women! I don't know what those would be, but she would recognize and appreciate the play, and you guys would be matched for a long time.
(Actually it would probably look like the match of Roy Dillon and Myra Langtry in The Grifters, but whatever.)
Quote: MoscaI get it, but that's only part of the point. There are AP women, too. You AP players tend to be lone wolves, that would hold true regardless of gender, which is what makes it harder to meet up. Maybe you should use AP techniques to meet AP women! I don't know what those would be, but she would recognize and appreciate the play, and you guys would be matched for a long time.
(Actually it would probably look like the match of Roy Dillon and Myra Langtry in The Grifters, but whatever.)
Even if I never meet that woman, there's now a movie I want to see :)
Quote: Lemieux66... what did you do about it?
Nothing.
Yeah, there's little compromises here and there, but whatever. Do you. If someone can't handle, they're not Ms. Right.
Quote: TomspurWhere do you find these green women and how much do they cost? :)
Ask James T. Kirk
Quote: Lemieux66Yeah but I don't want a woman who plays -EV games lol
Women, for the most part, are -EV
Quote: Lemieux66My dream is to find an attractive woman whom is a winning poker player. I find this impossible.
Mickey is still looking for that deaf and dumb nymphomaniac who owns a liquor store.
I didn't get that blue eyes joke at all but didn't want to admit my ignorance.
Now that I know its merely a regionalism and that in most of the USA would be two black eyes, I at least get the joke, though I's sure half the men telling the joke have never hit a woman in their lives.
Yes, most casinos have couples. Some enter the hotel as couples but immediately split up. He to the casino and she to the Spa. Some enter the casino together but immediately split up, he to table games and she to slot machines.
Some women would love to have a cabana boy but know that they don't want their husbands to have a cabana girl so they stay away from the pool entirely. Some women opt to have a cabana boy anyway. A marriage amongst gamblers is like any other marriage. It is what two people each decide to make it... plus or minus some luck and lots of hard work.
Quote: FleaStiffOkay guys, thanks.
I didn't get that blue eyes joke at all but didn't want to admit my ignorance.
Now that I know its merely a regionalism and that in most of the USA would be two black eyes, I at least get the joke, though I's sure half the men telling the joke have never hit a woman in their lives.
Yes, most casinos have couples. Some enter the hotel as couples but immediately split up. He to the casino and she to the Spa. Some enter the casino together but immediately split up, he to table games and she to slot machines.
Some women would love to have a cabana boy but know that they don't want their husbands to have a cabana girl so they stay away from the pool entirely. Some women opt to have a cabana boy anyway. A marriage amongst gamblers is like any other marriage. It is what two people each decide to make it... plus or minus some luck and lots of hard work.
Most marriages are "open" - it's just the other spouse doesn't yet know that
Quote: Lemieux66Quote: MoscaI get it, but that's only part of the point. There are AP women, too. You AP players tend to be lone wolves, that would hold true regardless of gender, which is what makes it harder to meet up. Maybe you should use AP techniques to meet AP women! I don't know what those would be, but she would recognize and appreciate the play, and you guys would be matched for a long time.
(Actually it would probably look like the match of Roy Dillon and Myra Langtry in The Grifters, but whatever.)
Even if I never meet that woman, there's now a movie I want to see :)
It is a great movie, but also very dark. You will feel like you need to bathe with mechanic's soap afterward. The story is by Jim Thompson, who also wrote The Killer Inside Me, After Dark My Sweet, The Alcoholics, etc. I guarantee when it is over you will think, "What the [heck]?"
http://youtu.be/NY0e-PQeJbQ
Quote: LarrySI dont think foreign born asian women enjoy watching their men gamble more than others
I meant that foreign-born Asian women enjoy gambling themselves, not watching others gamble. The overwhelming majority of female Asian gamblers who are regulars seem to be foreign-born.
Quote: Beethoven9thI meant that foreign-born Asian women enjoy gambling themselves, not watching others gamble. The overwhelming majority of female Asian gamblers who are regulars seem to be foreign-born.
Where is that jucie-jennie baby at when ya really need her, hey hey?
Quote: Beethoven9thI meant that foreign-born Asian women enjoy gambling themselves, not watching others gamble. The overwhelming majority of female Asian gamblers who are regulars seem to be foreign-born.
yea, asians in general gamble alot, especially during lunar new years. Its just part of the culture. and you can improve your odds withand be able to seduce asian girls more.
Quote: aceofspadesMost marriages are "open" - it's just the other spouse doesn't yet know that
Spoken like someone with check books full of experience :)
Quote: tongniI would teach her to play or do what you do under the assumption that you get to spend a lot more time together. My girlfriend receives a percentage of our running total along with bonuses. Everything is related to success however. She can now play correct strategy in all games in the casino, except deuces wild. I probably invested about 200 hours to teach her everything. I would say that is the best time I ever spent, both financially and on a personal level.
You did a good thing but the drive from your partner must be there to want to learn. This, in my opinion is only present in younger girls. The older ones have pre-conceived notions about the world and for the to change career paths mid stream would indeed be difficult.
Keep em young Lemieux :)
