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The Glenn Beck Phenom
| August 31st, 2010 at 3:06:04 PM permalink | |
| EvenBob Member since: Jul 18, 2010 Threads: 231 Posts: 6397 | I've never seen another radio/TV personality strike a chord in this country like Glenn Beck has. His numbers on FOX are extraordinary. He's the right guy in the right place at the right time. I like the guy, he's very likable. His honesty and emotion are refreshing, his knowledge is encyclopedic, and his ability to entertain is amazing. Good for him. One casino owner to another: "It would be so much easier if we could just hit them over the head, steal their money, and throw their bodies in the creek." Al Swearengen, Deadwood |
| August 31st, 2010 at 3:35:30 PM permalink | |
| AZDuffman Member since: Nov 2, 2009 Threads: 153 Posts: 2911 |
He has clearly founbd a niche--and it is amazing a conservative show on at 5:00 does so well. Usually people are at work at this time. I think his rally scared many people to death--the silent majority no longer silent. "The Roman Empire wasn't planned, but neither did it 'just happen.'" |
| August 31st, 2010 at 3:35:31 PM permalink | |
| AZDuffman Member since: Nov 2, 2009 Threads: 153 Posts: 2911 |
He has clearly founbd a niche--and it is amazing a conservative show on at 5:00 does so well. Usually people are at work at this time. I think his rally scared many people to death--the silent majority no longer silent. "The Roman Empire wasn't planned, but neither did it 'just happen.'" |
| August 31st, 2010 at 3:36:01 PM permalink | |
| thecesspit Member since: Apr 19, 2010 Threads: 38 Posts: 3106 |
Beck's another of a long line of political commentators (left, right or centre) whose stock in trade is sensationalism and getting noticed. He's an entertainer and a rodeo clown (his words not mine), he's a new Rush Limbaugh, prone to less flights of bullshit fancy and inference, it's true, but it's the same mold America's produced for the last twenty years. If you agree with his slant on politics, you'll love him as the voice of forgotten America, if you don't, you'll think he's a(nother) conservative blowhard. But at least he's not Sarah Palin... "Then you can admire the real gambler, who has neither eaten, slept through nor lived, he has so smarted under the scourge of his martingale, so suffered on the rack of his desire, for a coup at trente-et-quarante" - Honore de Balzac, 1829 |
| August 31st, 2010 at 3:50:13 PM permalink | |
| mkl654321 Member since: Aug 8, 2010 Threads: 65 Posts: 3412 | I've read his recent book, and what I find infuriating about the man is even though I agree with him about quite a few things (and vehemently disagree with him on others), he presents his ideas in a way that subverts logic and relies on rhetoric and cheap shots to make his points. I'm sure that a lot of that is just his media persona, and underneath all the bluster is probably a thoughtful and intelligent man. The clownish affectation cheapens his arguments and distorts his positions. We NEED people like him, to oppose Obama's steamroller, and to resist one-party rule and totalitarian government. However, he shoots himself in the foot repeatedly, and gives liberal pundits much more ammunition than they deserve, and a chance (as with Limbaugh) to make ad hominem attacks. I am also nauseated by this "return to traditional American values" crap. Bring back slavery! Repeal women's suffrage! Put people in jail for not going to church! Force school kids to pray! Stop vaccinating your children! Hunt down and kill homosexuals! Those are all traditional American values. Who in their right mind would "return to traditional America", even if they had the chance? Our history--and world history--is filled with oppression, bigotry, and ignorance. I do NOT want to party like it's 1799 (although, in colonial America, far fewer people attended church services, proportionally, than do today). The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one. The happiness of credulity is a cheap and dangerous quality.---George Bernard Shaw |
| August 31st, 2010 at 3:52:25 PM permalink | |
| EvenBob Member since: Jul 18, 2010 Threads: 231 Posts: 6397 |
What does he do thats sensational? Most of his shows are like college classes, heavy on American history. Whats wrong with Palin? I didn't like her at first, but she's very sincere and I like her a lot now. She also has struck a chord in America, she packs them in wherever she goes. One casino owner to another: "It would be so much easier if we could just hit them over the head, steal their money, and throw their bodies in the creek." Al Swearengen, Deadwood |
| August 31st, 2010 at 3:59:40 PM permalink | |
| EvenBob Member since: Jul 18, 2010 Threads: 231 Posts: 6397 |
On which show did he promote all of that, I missed that one. One casino owner to another: "It would be so much easier if we could just hit them over the head, steal their money, and throw their bodies in the creek." Al Swearengen, Deadwood |
| August 31st, 2010 at 4:10:50 PM permalink | |
| rdw4potus Member since: Mar 11, 2010 Threads: 57 Posts: 1975 |
On the anniversary of MLK's I Have a Dream Speech, Beck had a rally on the Mall "Reclaiming Honor" for conservatives. I enjoy Glenn Beck. He's a likable and funny guy. But if you don't think that's sensationalist, you've been sucked into the vortex. It's in the same vein as the ground zero mosque, only Beck's rally was literally in the same place as MLK's speech. "So as the clock ticked and the day passed, opportunity met preparation, and luck happened." - Maurice Clarett |
| August 31st, 2010 at 4:11:29 PM permalink | |
| rdw4potus Member since: Mar 11, 2010 Threads: 57 Posts: 1975 |
You misspelled plurality:-P "So as the clock ticked and the day passed, opportunity met preparation, and luck happened." - Maurice Clarett |
| August 31st, 2010 at 4:24:44 PM permalink | |
| ItsCalledSoccer Member since: Aug 30, 2010 Threads: 42 Posts: 734 |
I don't think "traditional" = "happened in the past." By that argument, welfare, nuking enemies, and abortion are "traditional American values" (the main difference being, welfare, nuking enemies, and abortion actually happened while "repeal women's suffrage" hasn't). Beck enumerates which values he labels as "traditional" so I don't need to go over them. If you don't like them or share them, that's fine. Tell us which ones you do value (abortion?). But picking four straw-man things that may (or may not) have historically happened, calling them "traditional American values," and using them as a reason to throw out ALL American values is just stupid. It's not an argument, it's not intelligent, and it's not thoughtful. American values exist (freedom, self-determination, private property, free markets, private charity), and there is apparently a very large number of voting citizens who are willing to fight to save them, no matter how many times they're told that they just want to "bring back slavery" if they think that way. Disparaging a large number of voters is never a good idea. |
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