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May 30th, 2015 at 6:56:36 AM permalink
Quote: mcallister3200

I find it condescending, and it's one of the things I hate being called by women I don't know.
Things I hate being called by women. 1. Hun 2. Honey 3. Sweetie. These are used constantly in Vegas so I suppose I should get used to it.

Things I hate being called by men, especially those I don't know: 1. Buddy 2. Boss 3. Bro 4. Brother

My very attentive waiter yesterday called me boss, buddy, and bro within a 5 minute span yesterday, I was thinking he was about to call me honey next.



Good looking dealers love the games. (no...not the table game)

especially Italians...pretty ruthlesss at it. They'll call you sweetie, hun, look at you like they wanna marry you.

Until you lose all your chips, then they've done their job...and are done with you.
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May 30th, 2015 at 5:59:03 PM permalink
Quote: john2010

Good looking dealers love the games. (no...not the table game)

especially Italians...pretty ruthlesss at it. They'll call you sweetie, hun, look at you like they wanna marry you.

Until you lose all your chips, then they've done their job...and are done with you.

Dealers normally don't want you to lose.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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May 31st, 2015 at 3:58:04 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Dealers normally don't want you to lose.



of course silly. which is why their overly nice and want you to come back for more.

they know who has the odds.
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May 31st, 2015 at 5:06:15 AM permalink
Dealers typically want the player to:

1) Win big quick and leave
2) Lose quick and leave
3) Play for a long time [rare]


#1 and #2 are kind of related. If someone plays a short period of time, the player will either win big really fast and tip the dealer. And dealer won't have to work a bunch more. Or if the player loses quickly, same thing -- less work. And after all, isn't that what just about every one at their job wants to do -- less work.

#3 is rare, but it's usually for a player who is fun and pleasurable to deal to, and of course, a good tipper. These types of players are rare. There are, of course, some players who are fun to deal to, but don't tip much (or don't tip at all). Not the "ideal" client to be dealing to, but on a packed Friday or Saturday night -- if I'm going to have 6-8 people on my side of the table, if I can get 1 or 2 people that are fun to deal to, it makes the night go by much quicker.....and I'd rather have one of them "locking up a spot" so one of those a**hole players can't play there and stroke me by playing $2 12 and $3 ace-deuce all night.


Most players I'd rather see win, and not because "I'll get tipped [more] if they win", but because I'd rather someone win money than lose money.

Of course, there are a few rare exceptions. The dude who argues over every 7-out "it hit the chips wait WTF THAT SHOULDNT COUNT ITS ON AN ANGLE". Or the dude who does weird sh** like $88 inside then the next roll "make it look like $110 inside" then the next roll "go to $135 across" etc. Then again, these are the types of people who you genuinely just fail miserably in life. The guy who sets up his bets in a way to make it even more difficult for the dealer to do his job (ie: $36 eight, when it hits, go to $54...and won't drop a dollar).....or the guy who buys in $500, asks for 2 stacks of red and $20 in singles....then throws down a green chip for a $12 six and eight...and never wants to drop $1 (for $15) or $11 (for $25) when it hits.

Then again, same kinda people everyone's gotta work with. You know, when the waiter asks if you need anything else, person says they want ketchup but other than that they're good. Waiter comes back...oh can I get a refill on my drink....waiter returns...can I get mustard too...waiter returns....etc.
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June 23rd, 2015 at 9:29:16 PM permalink
Yeah, Tell them your interested and you want to show her a good time. They say yes or they say no. Women hate Gentlemen, their p*$&#-$. They say they like them but they just use them.
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June 23rd, 2015 at 9:58:01 PM permalink
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Yeah, Tell them your interested and you want to show her a good time. They say yes or they say no. Women hate Gentlemen, their p*$&#-$. They say they like them but they just use them.



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July 1st, 2015 at 7:54:35 PM permalink
I have dated a dealer and some waitresses over the years and have many friends who have dated and even married dealers. Why not, they do date and as with most people you tend to met more people at work.

It seems to me that if the dealers had a choice they would want a player to win quickly, toke BIG and leave so that they could go back to waiting for their next break.
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March 20th, 2016 at 11:47:00 PM permalink
1. They have desires and probably enjoy sexy fun time just like anyone else.
2. They deserve the same level of basic human respect that anyone else gets.

If you can't wrap your head around #2, you won't ever get a chance to experience #1.

Treating people in the service industry as equals will almost always lead to better and more favorable results. (Excluding the actual gambling, of course)
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May 14th, 2016 at 9:26:49 AM permalink
Last night, one of the female dealers told the entire table that she had already received an offer of flowers, an offer of dinner, an offer of drinks, but that she was waiting for an offer of a diamond necklace. I threw her a dollar yo.

I'm sure they receive a lot of offers but looking at most of the cigar/cig smoking oldies in their 70s/80s frequenting the place, or the ones that show up drunk, I can understand why they would want to be as far away as possible from anyone that frequents their establishment.

People are people. Anything can happen. But, would you want to date Margaret "Hot Stick Dealer at Craps" Houlihan only to have to avoid her table after having a fight or break up?

I'm happy I'm married. I don't have to worry about any of this.
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May 14th, 2016 at 9:55:16 AM permalink
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JoelDezePeople are people.



That is debatable.

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I'm happy I'm married.

Give it time, you know what they say about familiarity. : )
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May 24th, 2016 at 2:41:21 PM permalink
Thankfully I'm married now. The single/dating life sucks. I hated every second of it.

I never hit on women in the service industry. I figured it was pointless because they have guys doing it to them all day and they're sick of it. As slim a chance as I had with picking up women in general, with service industry women it's a fraction of that. I'm not the best looking guy in the world so whenever they get all flirty with me I know it's just to get a bigger tip. Sometimes I'll play along, but 98% of the time their shenanigans fall on deaf ears.

Although I did have a once in a lifetime occurrence one time where a cute lady bartender (not at a casino) actually asked ME out. We went out on a couple of dates but it fizzled out pretty quick. Didn't even get a kiss in.
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May 24th, 2016 at 3:02:55 PM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

The single...life sucks.


Too quote Fred Sanford again......ARE YOU CRAZY?!?!?! :-)
DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
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May 24th, 2016 at 3:11:43 PM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

Thankfully I'm married now. The single/dating life sucks. I hated every second of it.



Yeah you were doing it wrong.
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May 24th, 2016 at 3:28:16 PM permalink
Quote: RogerKint

Yeah you were doing it wrong.



I know. I have terrible social skills. And I'm not rich or handsome. Three strikes. That's why I hated being single.
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May 24th, 2016 at 5:23:24 PM permalink
Quote: TigerWu


Although I did have a once in a lifetime occurrence one time where a cute lady bartender (not at a casino) actually asked ME out. We went out on a couple of dates but it fizzled out pretty quick. Didn't even get a kiss in.

You need to know, you screwed that up from the start. If she asked you out, you should respond 'are you a good kisser'? If she say's 'yes', you ask her to prove it, right then. If she say's 'no', you tell her you are a proffesional kissing instructor, and offer 1 free demonstration, offer good for the next 30 seconds. You got to be able to think on your feet, or your back, or her back, and so forth ;-)
Youuuuuu MIGHT be a 'rascal' if.......(nevermind ;-)...2F
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May 30th, 2016 at 9:52:51 AM permalink
Quote: TwoFeathersATL

You need to know, you screwed that up from the start. If she asked you out, you should respond 'are you a good kisser'? If she say's 'yes', you ask her to prove it, right then. If she say's 'no', you tell her you are a proffesional kissing instructor, and offer 1 free demonstration, offer good for the next 30 seconds. You got to be able to think on your feet, or your back, or her back, and so forth ;-)



There's no way in hell that works.
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May 30th, 2016 at 11:06:39 AM permalink
I don't think it's flirting, but every time I'm solo at a table with a female dealer, they always like to tell me their whole life story. Which is fine, I don't mind, but often they slow down or outright stop dealing for several minutes if they get deep into a conversation.
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May 30th, 2016 at 3:12:27 PM permalink
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There's no way in hell that works.

Virtually nothing works every time, you got to just keep pluggin' away. It's alot like blackjack, occasionally you get lucky.
You didn't really think I was goin' to tell the real 'good' lines did ya?
The APs would be all over me for giving away secrets ;-)
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May 30th, 2016 at 3:19:57 PM permalink
Quote: TwoFeathersATL

APs would be all over me for giving away secrets ;-)

At least someone would be all over you.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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May 30th, 2016 at 4:48:01 PM permalink
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At least someone would be all over you.

I am going to assume you weren't volunteering.
I'd hate to hurt your feelings ;-)
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June 2nd, 2016 at 1:41:16 PM permalink
Quote: MB

There's no way in hell that works.



You would be surprised what works. I was at a birthday party, when I was in my early 20's, having had a couple of drinks and feeling a bunch of courage. A young lady walks up to me and asks if I would like to dance. Well, I can't dance so I thought that I would try to be funny, never thinking that anything would come of it. I replied "I only dance in bed".........well, we danced and danced and.....
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June 2nd, 2016 at 4:16:19 PM permalink
OK, here's a valuable life lesson.

Two words: "Just ask."

Works for most every situation.

Don't be shy, don't dwell on rejection, keep on keepin' on.

Guys need to understand something about asking a woman out; she must make an initial, quick decision about whether to accept or decline the offer of a date, using her personal preferences as her primary filter.

"No" means she made an initial decision that you aren't her type, which is fine: we aren't all compatible.

This isn't the third world, women in America have the right to choose.
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June 3rd, 2016 at 6:57:29 AM permalink
There was a real jerk in high school who would just go up to a girl and not discretely ask her to have sex with him. Most of the time he would get the expected result of 'get away from me you asshole'. He said around one or two out of a hundred would say yes, and he couldn't care less what the other 98 or 99 thought about him.
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June 3rd, 2016 at 12:40:12 PM permalink
We went to High School together? 2F
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June 3rd, 2016 at 1:04:07 PM permalink
Quote: MrV



This isn't the third world, women in America have the right to choose.



SO many Bill Cosby jokes, so little time
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I flirt with female dealers often but I'm very polite when I do. I actually had one try to give my winnings to my wife and she said, "here you go lovely lady" and I said wait, those are my chips! What am I, chopped liver? She laughed and passed the chips over to me and said, "No you are lovely too!". I gave her a $10 tip and said okay, keep those types of comments coming while you are over by me. I'll never get tired of hearing them.
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June 3rd, 2016 at 3:23:01 PM permalink
Quote: JoelDeze

I flirt with female dealers often but I'm very polite when I do.

unless they are old and unattractive the nice guy flirting just comes off creepy.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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June 3rd, 2016 at 3:40:12 PM permalink
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unless they are old and unattractive the nice guy flirting just comes off creepy.



Or just comes off as a nice guy.
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June 4th, 2016 at 6:35:08 PM permalink
Quote: JoelDeze

Or just comes off as a nice guy.

Trust me they don't.


They may act all nice and sweet about it but that's natural because their tips and job depends on it.
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June 4th, 2016 at 11:01:08 PM permalink
Years ago, when I was involved with a gal who was paying her way through school by cocktailing at a nightclub, she had some little things that worked for her to deal with stuff without creating "issues" with customers or sending her Saturday night tip income that she depended on to survive into the toilet. One thing she sometimes did with some really persistent drunks with big ideas in their heads near closing time was to apologize that she couldn't arrange a hook up while at work or something like they wanted, 'cause her boss wouldn't approve & she needed the part-time gig. But she'd slip a napkin onto the table with the precious phone number, just for them *smile*wink*wink* But oddly enough, when she gave out the phone number like that, it somehow had the very same digits in it in exactly the same order as places like "Dial-A-Prayer" and stuff like that. She was evil. I liked that about her.
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June 4th, 2016 at 11:50:54 PM permalink
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June 5th, 2016 at 12:26:30 PM permalink
I think somewhere in this long thread somebody mentioned somebody who just asked random women to have sex and some of them actually said "yes." Then I somehow stumbled up on this video.



The ones who agreed I suspect could have been working girls.
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June 5th, 2016 at 1:03:25 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I think somewhere in this long thread somebody mentioned somebody who just asked random women to have sex and some of them actually said "yes." Then I somehow stumbled up on this video.

The ones who agreed I suspect could have been working girls.



Stumbled? ;) The "4-some" girls could use some math help from the Wizard himself.

This morning, in church, the preacher said that 1 in 3 Americans have an STD. I was trying to figure out how that's even possible.
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June 5th, 2016 at 1:10:19 PM permalink
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Stumbled? ;) The "4-some" girls could use some math help from the Wizard himself.



Free math lessons! Starting with 1+4=?
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June 5th, 2016 at 1:19:47 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I think somewhere in this long thread somebody mentioned somebody who just asked random women to have sex and some of them actually said "yes." Then I somehow stumbled up on this video.

The ones who agreed I suspect could have been working girls.



There's a 2% greater chance to hit either the 4 or 10 place bet.
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June 5th, 2016 at 1:47:26 PM permalink
Quote: RogerKint

Stumbled? ;) The "4-some" girls could use some math help from the Wizard himself.

This morning, in church, the preacher said that 1 in 3 Americans have an STD. I was trying to figure out how that's even possible.



I guess we need to have THE TALK Roger.

Don't be embarrassed now because I won't be. That's what youtube is for. The future of parenting *Clicks play and Exits room. http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTU5MzU2MzY2Nl5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTgwOTM4NzMxMDE@._V1_SX640_SY720_.jpg



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If he is including all forms of herpes he may not be that far off.
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June 5th, 2016 at 2:01:51 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

I guess we need to have THE TALK Roger.

Don't be embarrassed now because I won't be. That's what youtube is for. The future of parenting *Clicks play and Exits room. http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTU5MzU2MzY2Nl5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTgwOTM4NzMxMDE@._V1_SX640_SY720_.jpg



The link didnt work. Must be the porn blocker my stupid parents put on my pc.
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June 6th, 2016 at 8:31:49 AM permalink
Quote: RogerKint


This morning, in church, the preacher said that 1 in 3 Americans have an STD. I was trying to figure out how that's even possible.



HPV.

Almost everyone who is sexually active gets it at some point in their lives, but the majority of the time it shows no symptoms and just goes away on it's own.
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June 7th, 2016 at 1:59:06 PM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

HPV.

Almost everyone who is sexually active gets it at some point in their lives, but the majority of the time it shows no symptoms and just goes away on it's own.



Little bit of misinformation there. Symptoms if any, may go away within 2 years, but the virus itself does not. There is no known cure.
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June 7th, 2016 at 2:36:55 PM permalink
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Little bit of misinformation there. Symptoms if any, may go away within 2 years, but the virus itself does not. There is no known cure.



Huh... well, I got that info from skimming the CDC website: "In most cases, HPV goes away on its own and does not cause any health problems."

They probably could have worded that better.
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July 22nd, 2016 at 4:27:07 PM permalink
On my last night up at Hollywood Slots casino, I saw my favorite female dealer dealing $10 Spanish 21. So I walked up to her table and placed $500 down on the felt and said "hey cutie". She blushed and then promptly short changed me on my buy in buy $50. Had to call the floor over cus I didn't catch it, and she realized her mistake two hands in. Ended up losing the $500 anyways but thought it was funny that I got her so flustered that she miscounted the green chips.
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August 7th, 2016 at 10:07:33 PM permalink
I wouldn't focus on the dealer, since if they sincerely like you; they might worry about casino policies meant to prevent collusion. Strippers are trained to think every guy in the club is a slot machine, but you might find an opportunity in amateur nights. UNLV and clubs that cater the them would be where I would focus, since I liked dating a younger woman (other than her acting childish, not like I was when I was 19.) But, this is specific to casino employees; not Las Vegas residents. The waitresses get hit on, but so do all women. I met the most adorable waitress a while back, but she had a boyfriend. I'd say encourage doing something in a friendly manner at a casino that is not part of the same chain (they may not be able to play at a casino in the same chain.) Then after a few hours of playing ask her out to dinner. Your best bet would be tourists, they're looking to have a wild time; but it's best if you're young and in shape and cool. I only saw one mildly cute drunk girl last time I was in Vegas, but I wasn't looking. Night clubs could work, but the prices are retarded.
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May 11th, 2017 at 11:39:34 AM permalink
Quote: debitncredit

Does anyone have any story about flirting with female dealers or cocktail waitresses leading to something more (phone numbers, dates, etc.).

Does that ever happen?



I did that and didnt went well...
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May 11th, 2017 at 11:40:16 AM permalink
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May 11th, 2017 at 7:15:02 PM permalink
Yes it usually happens. i mean this happens everytime.. guys are guys..
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May 12th, 2017 at 4:21:27 PM permalink
theres nothing wrong dating a dealer.
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May 16th, 2017 at 1:01:18 AM permalink
Quote: BarbFrie

theres nothing wrong dating a dealer.



That's right.
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May 16th, 2017 at 3:40:42 AM permalink
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May 16th, 2017 at 5:33:55 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Somewhere on Cocktail Doll's site she discusses this topic. I don't remember her exact words but as I recall they were pretty much what BBB just wrote. For good tippers she will engage in a little banter but she hates to get overtly hit on and thinks very low of men stupid enough to think they have a shot as a total stranger.

Its part of the theme of Las Vegas but there is one heck of a difference between what happens on the Las Vegas Strip and at the casino's tables. One woman was walking the Strip and some young man also walking the Strip liked what he saw and went straight in for the kill. Two days later they flew to her parents house and arranged a wedding. It happens, but it happened outside the casino.

Inside the casino, the rules change. Its friendly banter, drinks, costumes, or as BBB said 'Interactive Decor' or the like. It is not a license to leer or take liberties. If she has a name tag, use it. If you are at NYNY's high roller area and recognize Cocktail Doll, you can call her 'Doll' but other than that, no.

Waitresses work for a living, often in ill fitting shoes, do you really think you are going to get anywhere with them. If you get a drink served to you with a name and phone number written in lipstick, congratulations, but wait until she is off work before calling it.
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May 16th, 2017 at 7:21:47 AM permalink
Here's the real problem... If you asked single female Waitresses/Dealers: If a really cute customer came in, would you want them to flirt with you or possibly ask you out? To me, most single girls I've asked that were servers at least said "heck yeah if he's hot and doesn't sound like an idiot I'd go out with him." So here is the real issue... Guys thinking they qualify as hot and smart enough to have a chance at going out with the dealer/waitress. It's not that it's impossible, just that most guys think they have a chance when they don't.

On the flip side I have a friend that's a guy, and he's a good looking guy. He gets women that flirt with him, hit on him, and leave their numbers for him all the time. Women do the same stuff, but usually servers "tend" to more frequently be females so you just hear about it the other way more often.
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