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Backroom experience at Encore

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September 15th, 2011 at 2:14:34 PM permalink
Face
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Quote: buzzpaff
Face, I am sure you would not have allowed him to continue if he was indeed DRUNK ??


Not if he was hammered, no. Drinksy, tipsy, buzzed, sure. It's a judgement call of the personnel handling it. If the OP was cognant and cooperative, I think he should be left alone while the facts are found.
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September 15th, 2011 at 3:07:36 PM permalink
Wizard
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When I was at the Star City in Sydney the pit boss could easily review the video of any table. My brother in law disputed something and just a few clicks and they could review the hand. No need to call Gaming and waiting 30 days.

In this situation, based on your version, it does seem the Encore came down with the heavy-handed treatment unnecessarily. Somehow, I think they would have a different version.

As others have said, I think it is theft to refuse to return an overpayment if requested. I doubt a casino would make such an accusation falsely or ask for a higher amount. My advice is that if this happens to you I would cooperate without argument. I would not demand to call Gaming or see tapes unless you know the request was incorrect.
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September 15th, 2011 at 3:37:27 PM permalink
EvenBob
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Quote: Wizard
I would not demand to call Gaming or see tapes unless you know the request was incorrect.


Absolutely. When they ask you how much you bet, make something
up if you don't remember. Low ball it, the last thing you want is them
to stop the game and go look at tapes.
One casino owner to another: "It would be so much easier if we could just hit them over the head, steal their money, and throw their bodies in the creek." Al Swearengen, Deadwood
September 15th, 2011 at 3:52:33 PM permalink
rxwine
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You may not remember to follow any of the advice here next time you're drinking as much, so I think the best advice is not to drink so much when you're gambling with that much money and you'll probably be fine.

Not to say everyone sober makes the best decisions, but it gives you a fighting chance at least.
September 15th, 2011 at 4:27:43 PM permalink
MrV
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Quote: RaleighCraps
I believe the OP gave the details as they were reconstructed for him after the fact. He has referenced the GCB report numerous times now. He did not write the facts as he recalled them at the time they were happening, since he apparently was rather intoxicated. Everything written here substantiates that viewpoint. It also explains why he did not take the original offer of $200. Would anyone with their mind still functional pocket an $800 error and then refuse to give back $200 to call it square (morality aside)?


You can also believe in Santa Claus, but you'd be wrong in that, also.

Your entire post is erroneous.

Look at the OP's original thread again, and his brief follow up posts.

He never referred to any GCB report, which according to you he would have read in order to "fill in the blanks."

No, he only got a short letter saying "you lose."

He did not view the tapes, he did not view a report which discussed the tapes.

All the details came from his memory.
September 15th, 2011 at 6:29:57 PM permalink
mrjack9
Member since: May 18, 2011
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The letter from the GCB, in which they explained their decision, went into explicit detail about the entire hand. The letter stated the times of my bet, the deal, the double down,........and stated the denomination of the chips in play (4 blacks for the bet + 3 blacks and 4 greens for the double down). It clearly stated the rank of the cards in play as well. If the letter simply said "you lose" I wouldn't know the details of the hand. I actually framed the letter and put it on the wall in my office. How many people have a letter from the GCB, after all?
September 15th, 2011 at 6:39:04 PM permalink
JimMorrison
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Quote: MrV
You can also believe in Santa Claus, but you'd be wrong in that, also.

Your entire post is erroneous.

Look at the OP's original thread again, and his brief follow up posts.

He never referred to any GCB report, which according to you he would have read in order to "fill in the blanks."

No, he only got a short letter saying "you lose."

He did not view the tapes, he did not view a report which discussed the tapes.

All the details came from his memory.


You really like to jump to conclusions.
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September 15th, 2011 at 6:55:16 PM permalink
buzzpaff
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I think you were drunk, that's why you were back-roomed. Seen to many innocent people harmed physically by an otherwise peaceful DRUNK !
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September 15th, 2011 at 7:44:40 PM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: mrjack9
. How many people have a letter from the GCB, after all?


I'm trying to decide if I'd want one or not? I guess it would depend on the circumstances. : ) But I might frame it too.
September 15th, 2011 at 9:25:40 PM permalink
MrV
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Quote: JimMorrison
You really like to jump to conclusions.


No, I concluded based on what was posted previously.

Originally all the OP said was "30 days later received a really nice letter from Robert stating that the casinos claim was correct and the 800 dollars was theirs to keep."

In other words: "You lose."

He originally said nothing about the letter describing in detail what the camera showed, etc: this was only mentioned after I called him on it.

Curious.

I'm not saying he's lying; I just wonder if he's still drunk.
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